Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

[lorizfree]

Just read through the redacted autopsy report by Kevin Horn. It is dated 7/15/08. If the autopsy report has been discussed in the past, apologies. I remember discussion of Detective Floes, but not the actual autopsy report. As i read thru I am so sad.

Travis has serious defensive wounds consisting of 5 cuts to his hands. One to his right which cut out part of his thumbnail. The other four were to his left hand. A deep cut across the bottom part of his thumb severing the muscles and tendons. Two cuts to the webbing between his thumb and index finger. Another cut on his left thumb. These wounds would have been quite painful.

He had an abrasion to his right forearm, contusions and abrasions to his rt lower leg and knee. He had 2 abraided laceration to his left heel (cuts from a deep scrape). The wounds to his left heel might have come from being dragged.

There had to be a struggle in consideration of the wounds.

Other items of interest is there was no urine in his bladder. There was undigested food in his stomach. Last but not least, Travis was shaved...Pubic hair that is. That was a little surprise to me.

She had to be soaked with blood. The question is..did she take a shower with or without Travis in the shower?

[Doll-Face]

Metis, Travis was shaved because he didn't like body hair. I believe Jodi testified he didn't like hair on her either, hence the Brazilian.

[alyoop]

So the psycho bitch slaughtered TA, cut her finger during the butchery, THEN took a PICTURE of her injury! She should get the DP just for the heartlessness that shows! I didn't think I could be even more disgusted by this story, but I am!

Anyone catch that this cut, or whatev., was taken on the HELIO on May 31st? thought she lost that bad boy mid may after the recording, how could she take a pic of a cut at work with a lost/stolen phone after the fact? she documents a cut and not a choking bruise or broken finger? WTF I hate her

[Metis212]

Metis, Travis was shaved because he didn't like body hair. I believe Jodi testified he didn't like hair on her either, hence the Brazilian.

I completely missed that he was shaved, not her. Yes, I understood she got the Brazilian wax "for Travis". Ok, I must have missed that part. I still believe the fresh wax on her is part of the premeditation cause it was part and parcel of the plan to visit travis. (Sorry to keep harping on that item)

[NCBlonde]

Okay, I have a question. If Travis was wearing this body bug thing, and not duct tape, was the body bug found at the scene? Did Jodi take it? If so, why?

It's possible we don't know the answer to that, because it wouldn't have been evidence, but I don't recall seeing it in any of the crime scene photos or anything. Just wondering.

Also, I saw this elsewhere and thought some would enjoy it.

[Harlette]

Anyone catch that this cut, or whatev., was taken on the HELIO on May 31st? thought she lost that bad boy mid may after the recording, how could she take a pic of a cut at work with a lost/stolen phone after the fact? she documents a cut and not a choking bruise or broken finger? WTF I hate her

i think the helio was the replacement phone - it was her old phone they found and got her texts out of

[lorizfree]

Okay, I have a question. If Travis was wearing this body bug thing, and not duct tape, was the body bug found at the scene? Did Jodi take it? If so, why?

It's possible we don't know the answer to that, because it wouldn't have been evidence, but I don't recall seeing it in any of the crime scene photos or anything. Just wondering.

Also, I saw this elsewhere and thought some would enjoy it.

That's awesome

[Lisa57]

Just read through the redacted autopsy report by Kevin Horn. It is dated 7/15/08. If the autopsy report has been discussed in the past, apologies. I remember discussion of Detective Floes, but not the actual autopsy report. As i read thru I am so sad.

Travis has serious defensive wounds consisting of 5 cuts to his hands. One to his right which cut out part of his thumbnail. The other four were to his left hand. A deep cut across the bottom part of his thumb severing the muscles and tendons. Two cuts to the webbing between his thumb and index finger. Another cut on his left thumb. These wounds would have been quite painful.

He had an abrasion to his right forearm, contusions and abrasions to his rt lower leg and knee. He had 2 abraided laceration to his left heel (cuts from a deep scrape). The wounds to his left heel might have come from being dragged.

There had to be a struggle in consideration of the wounds.

Other items of interest is there was no urine in his bladder. There was undigested food in his stomach. Last but not least, Travis was shaved...Pubic hair that is. That was a little surprise to me.

I believe that she planned the whole trip in order to kill Travis, thus pre-meditated murder. However, if jurors aren't convinced that premeditation was proven for that period of time, these defensive wounds scream that she wasn't trying to get away from him or leaving him incapacitated. At this point she was planning to kill Travis.

[azkarisma]

Just saw a fascinating post on the Eyes for Lies blog. I don't want to be disrespectful to her by copy/pasting here; she has a very obvious copyright message at the bottom of the blog. I also don't want to send traffic away from MDS. So if you are interested, check out the whole thing at http://blog.eyesforlies.com/2013/03/...hotograph.html. But come back here afterward, because you won't find any discussion quite like the discussion here at MDS.

Anyway, one of her readers sent in a picture of Travis' last photo in the shower, but she used face-mirroring software to mirror each side of his face. Eyes said

In the photo on the left you see sadness. And the photo on the right you see an intensity that is gut-wrenching. It's like a mix of a fear and anger that one would feel if they have their back against the wall and they are cornered.

Best dscription I've seen yet of the expression in that photo.

[andrea0121]

Websleuths are back and forth over the bodybugg too.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...&postcount=123



I did hear a female friend say he wore one.
I never heard that one was found at his home.
Wonder if she took that to?

[Jinkasaurus]

I posted this over at WebSleuths, but thought folks here would enjoy it too - so copying my own post over -

The last picture of Travis' face, while in the shower, is like a rorschach test - each of us sees something different in his expression.

There is an on-line test called Mind in the Eyes, where you are shown cropped photos that reveal different people's eyes and you must choose one of four emotions that they are expressing. You can take the test here: Reading the Mind in the Eyes

- this is based on the work of Simon Baron-Cohn and his research on empathy, and his book, The Essential Difference: Men, Women and the Extreme Male Brain.

Anyway, I thought that the folks here who feel strongly about their interpretation of the emotion(s) Travis is showing in that last photo might enjoy taking the test.

I personally see anger/irritation in his face in that photo.

I scored a 31 out of 36 on that test, which indicates I am "very accurate" in decoding facial expressions - according to this test.

[marycontrary]

Regarding the discussion of the picture of TA in the shower. The pic of face only was taken with the shower door OPEN, same as with all of the other photo's. The water is dripping off his face. Not the door. This was testified to in court by a prosecution witness.

I stand corrected. The water is running in it. The next picture it's not. His arm may be raised in the next pic as he turned off the water.

[helloagain]

For anyone on the east coast with Verizon Fios, the Judge Judy episode with Gus Searcy is on right now. Channel 14, or 514 HD, the CW channel. That case will be the second part of the episode.

[Doll-Face]

Jinkasaurus, thanks for the eye test. It was interesting. I only scored a 29. The black and white pics with shading made it more difficult for me.

[Jinkasaurus]

Jinkasaurus, thanks for the eye test. It was interesting. I only scored a 29. The black and white pics with shading made it more difficult for me.

Well, that is still pretty good - you only really need to be worried if its lower than 20, I think!

What emotion do you see in Travis' eyes in that last photo of his face?

[Doll-Face]

Jinkasaurus: I'm sorry I can't quote you on my phone, but I see pretty much what you see. To me, it's like he is feeling betrayal mixed with fear and anger. If he's actually looking at a weapon in her hand at that moment, it's really sad for me. And to know Jodi thought this was such a good picture of Travis... as she told Det. Flores several times... I just want to grab a telephone book and beat her with it.

[animosity]

Jinkasaurus, thanks for the eye test. It was interesting. I only scored a 29. The black and white pics with shading made it more difficult for me.

Well, that is still pretty good - you only really need to be worried if its lower than 20, I think!

What emotion do you see in Travis' eyes in that last photo of his face?

i scored 23... so i did alright. i mistook flirtatious for hostile though. no wonder i'm not getting any action!

[acertaingirl]

I posted this over at WebSleuths, but thought folks here would enjoy it too - so copying my own post over -

The last picture of Travis' face, while in the shower, is like a rorschach test - each of us sees something different in his expression.

There is an on-line test called Mind in the Eyes, where you are shown cropped photos that reveal different people's eyes and you must choose one of four emotions that they are expressing. You can take the test here: Reading the Mind in the Eyes

- this is based on the work of Simon Baron-Cohn and his research on empathy, and his book, The Essential Difference: Men, Women and the Extreme Male Brain.

Anyway, I thought that the folks here who feel strongly about their interpretation of the emotion(s) Travis is showing in that last photo might enjoy taking the test.

I personally see anger/irritation in his face in that photo.

I scored a 31 out of 36 on that test, which indicates I am "very accurate" in decoding facial expressions - according to this test.

I scored 30. After awhile, all the eyes started to look alike!

[*crickets*]

Someone a few pages back posted a link to David Lohr's videos of the trial with the sidebars and breaks edited out. I had been wading/suffering thru the unedited videos on YouTube and I would just like to say THANK YOU! (Sorry I don't remember who you are.) You are wonderful!

The amazing thing is that with all the crap (sidebars etc.) edited out there ends up being 1 1/2 to 2 hours of ACTUAL TESTIMONY per day!! AZ residents, this is your tax $ at work...

[geevee]

You know, after looking at the very last pic (of her dragging him in the sheet) I realized what's wrong (and I'm sure others having noted it), the walls and floor are so pixelated you can't tell what the surface is. I recall Flores showing a pic to JA and telling her that was just a small portion of the whole pic they recovered, I'm having fantasies of JM whipping out the complete pic and just watching her face hit the floor.

[Jillee]

Hoping I can post this link- it's a screenshot of posts that Matt McCartney made. I knew it! What do I win??
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater




Oh! I see Justice11 posted this already! Sorry Justice11! Awesome Post though!!!!

[Booya]

That pic of Skunt as a weather girl is funny as hell whomever posted it! The one warning of 'dense fog ajead'... The media references her good looks, I think she is uglier than a mud fence!

[queenaevadamthng]

Ok so I'm behind on things, at the risk of sounding like a total doofus, could someone explain to those of us LD class WTH is a body bugg?

[queenaevadamthng]

I am playing catch up cuz I'm several days behind. Could someone explain for us kids in the LD class WTH a body bugg is?

[wasthinking]

May 10th i believe. Does anyone remember her saying she had recorded other sex talk but deleted it on a different phone? I thought she said this one was the Helio. That would mean she had two live phones and numbers, or am i just scrambling stuff up?

The Helio is the one she put the claim in because it was 'lost in gramps truck while getting Chinese carry-out". She says she tried calling it. (She would have heard it in the truck.) Prolly insurance fraud to get a new phone. she said the "aunt in the front row" found it in the truck. whateva...

I believe so far she's tried to make it 3 phones.

One lost from gramps truck
One she doused in hot chocolate she ruined and therefore got
the helio from Gus.