Yep, this may be the best smoking gun proof of premeditation. Why go to all the trouble to hide your whereabouts: died hair, flipped license plate, no gas fillups in Arizona, cellphone turned off, less noticeable car color ..... ???Originally Posted by Ian 1
Jodi went from -- in her mind -- potential wife to a rising star to his housekeeper who wasn't even welcome in his circles. She turned stalker, then planned her revenge and thought she could get away with his murder.
Nobody's focused on more than it's presence, really! It would be interesting to see if it could be connected to something. Maybe it's as simple as a piece of something used to wrap a box. How about the floor-cleaning machine? Did it come in a box? Was it a rental? Could the box have been sealed with duct tape? I dunno! Wild speculation, but it's Saturday. This thread moves at warp speed on Trial Days.
I think the floor cleaner, if I recall correctly, was purchased by TA ~ it's mentioned in Flores report
Me too, I don't get bringing it up otherwise.
Still with the camera pics: Look at the autopsy pic of his left palm, see the two cuts near his thumb, one deep and one shallower above it? I think the knife was sharpened on both sides, at least near the tip, he grabbed the knife leaving both of those wounds at the same time (look at the opposing directions of them), also, since there is no skin tearing on either end of the wounds (and some are pretty wide but I doubt the blade was that wide, the ones on his left should blades for ex). I so wish JM had brought in some wound and blood spatter experts to go into all these more throughly. They camped a lot, did either of them keep a pocket knife or swiss army knife handy? Taping it to herself, that sounds very plausible.
My thoughts exactly morbidT. If he were stabbed in this photo, blood would be running down the sides of his torso, diluted by water, it would be everywhere. That has to be the shower drain.
Exactly! When she left Mesa in March, what was she going back to? A life of waitressing, living in her grandparents home in a city she wasn't crazy about - destined to have meaningless relationships with other losers like herself. She wanted T's life, once she had a taste of it, she couldn't let go. I guess she figured if she couldn't have it, neither would he. That's why I truly believe she hated him at the end.
Jodi Arias's story is that she cut the finger on a portion of metal shelf where the Margarita glasses are stored as she was rotating them around moving the cool ones to the front and putting the hot ones fresh out of the dishwasher in the back to give them a chance to cool off. She claims she got a band-aid from her supervisor to cover the injury but that 'cause it was kinda a casually run business, the '''workers' injury(?)''' report required by California Regulations was probably not done. It's an ongong part of the trial and should come back up next week. I think Martinez is trying to connect the cut to the killing of Travis but haven't zeroed on the dates so haven't sorted it out. You can do that. I expect that Martinez will have Jodi Arias's supervisor from Casa Ramos available to testify to the fact that it never happened and if it did happen, he would have acted and reported in accordance with the regulations. In plain words, Jodi's trying to say the cut was no big deal, just a yuk to share with her My Space friends. She wants Juan to drop it. He probably won't.
"Of all the emotions, the most dangerous emotion is love." P.D James
"Do you not realize, my son, with how little wisdom this world is run?" Baron von Oxenstiema"
Interesting. I don't remember seeing a date on the photo itself (but there is probably Exif info), but if it was taken on or after June 4th, then she is even a sicker psycho bitch than I thought.
ETA: I remember her also testifying that she cut her finger on a glass while she was getting water from the dispenser on T's fridge. I guess that would be her explanation if the date taken June 4.
Great point.
"...Jeffrey Dahmer... actually confessed and accepted his punishment. Had real remorse for the sick things he did. It's pretty bad when Jeffrey Dahmer is a better person than you are." ~Justice11 (re: Jodi Arias)
I think she used the same type of knife that she used to slash tires. You'd have a hard time slashing tires with any kind of kitchen knife. Kitchen knives are too weak at the handle. You could get the knife into the tire, but you'd have one heck of a time getting it out. I think she had to have used a hunting knife on the tires and on Travis. Like a Spyderco. Strong handles, less slippage.
Like this:
http://www.philippinegenrestories.co...rco-native-08/
The stalkings, the slashed tires, the attempts to date his business peers, and .......
I think threats she made to Travis that she would destroy his reputation. With half-truths or outright lies.
He has realized that she is soulless and totally dependent on advancing her station in life through men. Problem is, Jodi was smart. She could manipulate & twist the truth long enough for him to suspend his disgust and succumb to his physical desires. Sex was Travis' kryptonite. He said he hadn't masturbated until meeting her. He was a 15 year old, sexually. He was weak. He was human. And like it or night, many men will tell you "crazy" sex was good sex. And Jodi was every bit "crazy".
Oh, oh, oh, the size of the company determines if they fall under the regs for workers comp and reporting requirements, she may be trying to say reporting it wasn't required because the company wasn't big enough, I hope JM has something up his sleeve about this and one day soon he ties all these ribbons into a nice tidy bow for the jury.
The license plate is a huge part of the premeditation factor because I recall Skunt saying in her interrogation video to Det Flores that "couldn't you look at red light cameras to see if you spot my license plate?" his response was something along the lines of 'no, only if a red light was ran'... She turned that plate upside down on purpose and took off the front plate (that's unnecessary for AZ drivers to have, by law) and it wasn't 'skaters' as she said. That statement to Det Flores is clear that she wanted her plates to evade detection!
Yes, that kinfe blade is very similar to what I was picturing in my mind.
She did try to say reporting wasn't required due to the company's' size in response to a jury question. That's why JM is circling her like a shark in the water! He smells blood.
I'm trying to figure out how to post pictures, rather than links. We'll see if I can. Spyderco knife
.... crap
Important point. She didn't just want Travis, she wanted his life. She wanted to absorb every bit of his success.
Jodi was as much a jealous competitor as a suitor. You can see in the video when Travis is the center of attention ..... she was disinterested. She wanted that attention.
She was nothing. She had nothing. The only was she advanced herself in life was through using men.
Newbie alert... reading all the posts with great interest and I'll post questions I have later.
FYI (excuse me if this is common knowledge) this is supposed to be TA's blog and the writing and subject matter are very enlightening about his character and beliefs. A good read. Especially the "Why I Want to Marry a Gold-digger" post.
dizzy
http://travisalexander.blogspot.com/
This is an interesting post from http://www.twitlonger.com/show/l8bs75
I hope you guys don't get pissed because its a little long....
#JodiArias MUST READ - BIOLOGY OF THE DEFENSE CASE Defense Counsel Information based on case minutes:
First public defender at arraignment is James Hann. There is a minute entry about the public defender having a possible conflict. The State?s Attorney is Juan Martinez
On 9/19/08 the public defender is Maria L Schaffer as primary.
On 9/19/08 another public defender Judis R Andrews requested an extension of time to challenge the Grand Jury proceedings as they did not have a copy of the Grand Jury transcript.
On 12/18/08 the primary public defender is Maria L Schaffer and the secondary public defender is Gregory T Parzych. Juan M Martinez is still the State?s Attorney.
On 5/22/09 the defendant submitted a request for a change of council.
Additional hearings and status meeting are held without further mention of the change of council.
On 8/10/09 the Court received and reviewed a motion from both public defenders to withdraw from representing the defendant. The Court found sufficient cause to allow them to withdraw and noted that the trial was set for February 2, 2010 so there is adequate time for new counsel to be assigned without putting the trial date in jeopardy.
On 8/18/09 Victoria E Washington and Kirk Nurmi appear as counsel along with Maria Schaffer and Gregory Parzych at an evidentiary hearing. Of interest, this hearing was to determine if there is probable cause to add an Aggravating Factor that will make this a death penalty case. This is where the prosecution presents to the Court that the victim was shot first, then repeatedly stabbed, then stabbed in the heart and finally had throat slit. Detective Flores represents to the court that he spoke with the Medical Examiner Dr. Horne and that this is the sequence of events Dr. Horne gave him.
On 8/18/09 Victoria E Washington (secondary) and Kirk Nurmi (primary) are assigned as new defense counsel.
On 11/3/09 new trial date of 8/16/2010 is set. This is per the request of defense counsel who previously stated they need more time to prepare.
On 6/18/10 the trial date was reset to 8/2/2011.
On 2/25/11 Kirk Nurmi announced to the Court that he is leaving the Public Defender?s Office.
On 3/8/2011 a hearing is held regarding Kirk Nurmi withdrawing as defense consel. Very interesting minutes. Defendant strenuously objected to new counsel and possibility of pushing back trial date. The Court noted that ?Once a case is set for trial, counsel may not withdraw except upon motion providing the name and address of another attorney, along with a statement from that attorney stating that he or she has been advised of the trial date and will be prepared for trial. Rule 6.3(c). No such motion or statement has been filed in this case. ? Mr. Nurmi was ordered to continue as the lead defense counsel at the standard public defender hourly rate paid to the primary defense counsel.
On 3/9/2011 Mr. Nurmi submitted a formal motion to withdraw and as hearing on the motion was set for 3/21/2011.
On 3/21/2011 Mr. Nurmi?s motion to withdraw as counsel is denied. At this hearing the State?s request to change the trial date due to a scheduling conflict with State Attorney Juan M Martinez was also denied.
On 3/22/2011 another hearing is held with a second motion to withdraw by Mr. Nurmi. After the hearing on the previous day the Public Defender Office notified Mr. Nurmi that they were withdrawing the mitigation specialist, investigator, and paralegal because the Public Defender Office does not want Mr. Nurmi directing staff when he is no longer an employee. The Court ordered that Mr. Nurmi motion was denied and he was required to remain as the primary counsel and that the Public Defender Office must immediately reassign the personnel to the case.
On 4/4/2011 Mr. Nurmi stated his objection to remaining on the case during a status hearing as he has left the Public Defender Office to go into private practice. The Court found that Mr. Nurmi has an ethical obligation to continue representing the defendant but would begin receiving a reasonable hourly rate of $225.00 as compensation to avoid any financial interests that would place Mr. Nurmi in conflict with his client.
On 8/8/2011 defendant has a hearing on an oral motion she submitted to represent herself. At the end of the hearing this motion is granted but Kirk Nurmi and Victoria Washington are to remain as advisory counsel, with Victoria Washington as primary. The evidentiary hearing on the purported letters from Travis Alexander alleging he is a pedophile is held with Ms. Arias as defense counsel.
On 8/9/2011 during a normal status conference both Victoria Washington and Kirk Nurmi address the Court as to the roles and responsibility of advisory counsel, and the primary counsel (which is now the defendant). The Court agrees and addresses this with Ms. Arias and asks her if she wishes to remain as her own counsel. She states she will continue as primary counsel.
On 8/15/2011 the evidentiary hearing regarding the ?pedophile? letters is completed. The Court orders that the letters are precluded and the defense withdraws them. At the end of this hearing Ms. Arias submits an oral request to withdraw as her own counsel and requests that Mr. Nurmi and Victoria Washington be reinstated as defense counsel. The Court orders Kirk Nurmi and Victoria Washington to represent the defendant in all further proceedings.
On 9/9/2011 the trial date is reset to 2/21/2012 due to the primary defense witness needing to withdraw because of a health issue. A new witness will need to be retained and allowed time to prepare for the trial.
On 12/22/2011 a hearing was held on a motion from the Public Defender Office to withdraw from this case due to a conflict of interest with Victoria Washington. Motion was allowed but the Public Defender Office will appoint a new second counsel, investigator, mitigation specialist, and paralegal. Victoria Washington is released as counsel.
On 1/3/2012 a hearing was held on a motion to continue trial due to assignment of new counsel. New secondary counsel Jennifer L Willmott was assigned by the Public Defender Office. Defendant agreed and waived the applicable time limit. Trial date was changed to 10/17/2012.
On 3/12/2012 a hearing was held on a defense motion to dismiss the Intent to Seek Death Penalty. Per the motion ?At the status conference on January 3, 2012, the Court granted an oral motion by the defense to continue the trial due to the recent appointment of Ms. Willmott. Defendant Arias agreed to the continuance and the exclusion of time. The trial was reset to October 17, 2012. All time was excluded. See minute entry dated January 3, 2012. Defendant now asserts the State?s Notice of Intent to Seek the Death Penalty should be dismissed because, to assure she had effective representation by counsel, Defendant Arias had to agree to the continuance of the trial to October 17, 2012.? The Court denied this motion as the need for competent and prepared counsel trumps her right to a speedy trial. During this hearing the defense also submitted a motion to preclude the State from referring to Travis Alexander as a ?victim? during the trial. Specifically, Defendant Arias argues she would be prejudiced by permitting the State and its witnesses to refer to Mr. Alexander as the victim since it is contrary to her claim of self defense. As such, she would be prejudiced. The State responds that the term ?victim? is routinely used in criminal cases and does not imply the defendant committed the crime with which she has been charged. Further, the State argues Mr. Alexander was murdered and thus he was a ?victim? of a criminal offense as defined by Arizona law. The Court finds the defendant failed to establish she will be prejudiced if Mr. Alexander is referred to as the ?victim? in front of the jury during the trial. The State?s evidence will show Mr. Alexander was the victim of a homicide. Apparently, the defendant will argue she acted in self defense and was thus justified in her actions. Regardless, referring to Mr. Alexander as the ?victim? during the trial will not unfairly prejudice the defendant.
On 10/30/12 defense submits another request to continue the trial date (there was a previous motion that was granted moving the trial date from 10/17/2012 to 11/19/2012) because they want their own review of a computer hard drive. State objects to the continuation.
On 11/19/2012 motion is granted changing trial date to 12/10/2012.
On 12/4/2012 defense submits another motion for continuation. Motion is denied.
Jury selection begins on 12/10/2012. Final jury is selected and sworn in 12/20/12. Opening statements scheduled to being 1/2/2012.
All court minutes for Jodi Arias
http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov...r=CR2008031021
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MUST READ - BIOLOGY OF THE DEFENSE CASE Defense Counsel Information based on case minutes
It goes over all the different defense councils JA had. Also, mentions how JA asked that the court does not refer to Travis as a victim in front of the jury because it would be prejudicial and she is trying to prove self-defense. Of course, the judge told her to fuck off because Travis was a victim of a murder (my words, not hers).
His brother Dennis, seen in court at times, fessed up. He was a druggie and used Travis' identiry.
It sure seemed out of character to be Travis. Glad it was not.
I went to the Riverside Public Access page http://public-access.riverside.court...8&DOB=19770728
and put in the case number rim418038 and his birthdate 07/28/1977 and the same record came up. likely inadmissable. Donovan and the like have committed worse!
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Yeah! She told that story about breaking the glass/cutting herself at Travis house early in the morning of June 4, when she got there, (I'm pretty sure). I could never reconcile the image of Jodi Arias, with that injury to her freshly cut finger, manipulating Travis's privates during the ensuring entertainment(s) that commenced around noon the same day. So I stopped! Not a place I wanna go!
"Of all the emotions, the most dangerous emotion is love." P.D James
"Do you not realize, my son, with how little wisdom this world is run?" Baron von Oxenstiema"
I'm on my mobile, so probably can't quote right, sorry. About the knife, I was wondering if it might also have been the type that gets wider towards the handle, as well as sharp on both sides, like the knife shown here http://www.mitchellknives.com/ on the home Page. Any thoughts?
So the psycho bitch slaughtered TA, cut her finger during the butchery, THEN took a PICTURE of her injury! She should get the DP just for the heartlessness that shows! I didn't think I could be even more disgusted by this story, but I am!
She specifically stated that she thought that because of the casual informal manner in which the employees related to management, it was one of those kinds of places where a policy of strict adherence to regulations was not stressed, and that required procedures might not always have been carried out. She definitely stated it was not formally reported and the only mention she made to her manager about it was by inference--she asked him for a bandaid and got right back to work 'cause the place was so busy and "I had a million Margaritas to make." I suspect Juan is gonna come back with the manager who will testify that the company has a policy of strict adherence to requirements of Law/Regulations regarding workplace injury and safety. If there was a piece of metal projecting from any part of a shelf that could cause injury to a worker, he would want to know about it so that he could eliminate the danger.
Jodi is covering it up by trying to now minimize it and she's doing it for a reason. That week, she must have been the most cut-up girl in the Western U.S.A.
"Of all the emotions, the most dangerous emotion is love." P.D James
"Do you not realize, my son, with how little wisdom this world is run?" Baron von Oxenstiema"
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