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    Did you see Nurmi just look at the clock...man is hungry!

    ETA: called it!
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    defense looks a bit scared
    - Beauty is a beast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeebee View Post
    Craaaaaap I have to go to a meeting. BOOOOOOOO

    I hope berm is able to do a recap.
    Lunch break now

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    I Tried!!

    ‎The hardest recap EVER! Holy Sh*t
    Read slow....it will slow the trial down (that's the defense's plan)


    I'd advise anybody to watch the actual video of this. There is no way a recap could ever show the awesomeness of this cross. No way.


    2/‎21/‎13

    Jodi is wearing a white shirt with black jacket over it-hair is down and loose.

    Jodi is on the stand. JM is up.
    EX 413- She recognizes it. The other is her Dumb sister Angela. She's not dumb.
    Jodi called Angela dumb. He didn't ask her if she called him stupid.
    EX 452- Taking by Jodi's camera. Looks like it. The color of Jodi's hair. May 2008. JM wants to admit the picture-Nurmi objects

    Shit, this is going to be hard to recap.

    Approach (judge)

    (Jodi's getting her world rocked, BTW)
    EX 452 admitted- JM is showing Jodi the date. May 15, 2008. Jodi and her stupid sister.
    Name calling- Travis accused Jodi of acting like her mother. Jodi loved her mother.
    Do you have problems with your memory? Sometimes.
    You can tell us about your coffee or sex but not some things? When I'm under stress-yes
    Jodi enjoyed sex at times.
    Travis talking about Jodi's grandpa-JM is accusing Jodi of having a double standard. Jodi agrees with him. JM is bringing up how she has double standands about her talking about people, but not Travis.

    Yesterday on the stand-Went over Travis' house. You felt it was okay to go over his house? After he told me. Every time she starts to go off-he is interrupting her. (Oh shit, this is hard)
    Jodi did not knock on Travis' door. She was looking at what was going in. Outside looking in.
    You saw Travis? No-Then JM yells at her and Nurmi interrupts.
    Did you see Travis in the house with a female? Yes. What's her name? I don't know the name. Jodi didn't recongnize her. Sort of-maybe. YES OR NO. (The judge got on to Jodi)
    Was Travis making out with the female? Yes. Was the bra off? I didn't see that, I only saw her unhooking it.
    Travis and the girl did not see Jodi. You were watching them? No. I saw it and left. But you saw enough to see them kissing? Yes. The light was on. Light from a TV screen. Jodi left.

    You felt strongly enough you called your father? YES. Crying? yes. I thought you didn't discuss these issues with your parents? Not typically. (JM is really ripping this girl's ass out)
    What right do you have to do that? You were being tertoritaly about him? No. You could have walked away? YES. He wasn't giving you money, right? Yes, he was giving me money. She was not paying rent with Rachel. Jodi had to confront Travis? Yes. YOu were jealous? NO.

    Issue with text- Steve. 2 part text message. 1 part went to Travis. Travis got upset. Jodi lied to him at that point? no. Well, you made a fake text message to him? Yes and NO. JM says Jodi was playing a different standard.
    How you feel? Isn't that the same way you felt when you were peeking in his window? I don't know. I wasn't mad at Travis. At what time? Either time. It's okay for you to lie about a guy but if it's you-you decide to confront him? Yes.

    Sex with other people. Ryan Bruns. You ended up in his bed? It was a love sack. Was Travis dead? It wasn't discussed. At that time you weren't sure if he was dead? Not in Utah, but right before the Hoover Dam. Jodi guesses she knew Travis was dead-she wasn't sure. Jodi thinks he was dead when she was kissing Ryan. She was out of her mind. Roll around with Ryan was okay? I'm single. (what a bitch) It was okay for Jodi.
    Jodi felt she had the right to confront Travis about other girls, but not okay for him to confront him

    EX 452- Shows Jodi. Angela. Shows Jodi's hand. CLoseup of the hand.

    Approach (judge)

    EX 453 & 452- Closeup of Jodi's hand. I guess JM is disputing a previous story of Travis beating her up- and this picture proves her finger was NOT damaged. He made Jodi do her finger again. (LOL) BUSTED!!! She doesn't have a bent finger-but she says she does have a bent finger in that photo. Her poor finger. JM says it's had " a run of bad things" happen to it. She told Ryan about her finger. JM wants to know if she has a problem with memory? She says sometimes. JM wants to know if her stories are "suspect" because of her memory. Jodi had a bandage on her finger when she met up with Ryan. Now she can't remember exactly what finger. (OMG this is so painful) JM is beating her up bad about the different fingers she keeps bringing up in all her different stories.

    Approach (judge) (HOLY FREAKING SHIT) (If I am ever having a bad day, I am going to rewatch this over and over. No day worse for anybody than Jodi right now)

    EX 454 is admitted. The Flores video. It's about Jodi's finger and the cuts. (BOOM-That's the sound of Jodi's story about the finger)
    The injury happened on June 4, didn't it? That's not correct.
    Jodi said she told Ryan she cut it at work. You told Flores it was cut some other way? YES.
    Didn't you say you dropped a glass at Travis' house on June 4? What date. I broke more than one glass at his house. She cut her right finger at Travis' house. Jodi is basically saying Ryan was lying about the finger cuts.

    22th of Jan-When you say you injured your finger.
    You kept a journal? YES. You were writing in it? YES. It would stay private? No.
    EX 242-Journal. It's Jodi's. (anybody notice that JM handed Jodi the journal and she had to reach over with her wonky finger? It wasn't wonky then)
    (Jodi is loving this)

    (Approach) (Nurmi asked for the approach after looking at the diary)

    455 admitted- Diary. Jodi took her glasses off to read the diary. The first entry talks about how much she loves Travis. Aug 2007 Jodi was in love with him and didn't want to let him go. She wrote this entry AFTER she peeked through his window when he was making out with the girl on the couch.

    Jodi kept 2 journals. JM wants to look at another one.

    (Approach) (Nurmi asks for this one)

    EX 456 Diary- It's Jodi's diary. Jan 24, 2008. (I think Nurmi keeps stalling for time)

    (Approach) (Nurmi asks for it)

    There's a gap between dates. Jodi doesn't write about her finger being broken in her diary. She also writes how she turned down 4 offers of dates.
    Jan 20, 2008- The diary entry- Lonnie getting baptized. (Jodi reads slow now) She missed the event b/c Jodi and Travis were having a sex date (the pop rock and tootsie roll event)

    (Approach) Judge about having Jodi read the transcripts of her previous testimony.

    Jodi had to read (took forever)
    Jodi does reference Lonnie's baptizms to poprocks and the Tootsie pops? Yes

    EX 458- Jodi's diary and her talking about Lonnie being baptized. JM voice is loud about dates of Jan 20. Starts out in black ink then changes to blue ink. There is no other date. Nurmi objects- and JM yells out "she's looking at it"
    Jodi says she didn't write a date. The next page is in blue ink and has no date. The next page is in blue ink and has no date. Next page is in blue ink and no date. Next page contains the intinals JA and it's in blue ink and no date. Next page Jan 24, 2008. A word is in " " marks. It's an entry in the diary.
    JM wants to move to admit EX 458.
    I think JM is saying all 5 pages are the same date.

    Lunch.

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    Wow, that was awesome. I can't wait to watch it again. Seriously.

    (Yeah, I know I'm a loser, but at least I'm honest about it!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeebee View Post
    I was going to say something like this. We are seeing a bit of the real Jodi today.
    Oh yeah, and I bet she was much much worse with Travis, Juan is a seasoned prosecutor and fucking bitch Jodi thinks she's the smartest person in the room

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justice11 View Post
    Did you see Nurmi just look at the clock...man is hungry!

    ETA: called it!

    Nurmi just wants to make this hot mess stop

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    I'm not going to smite you just because I disagree with you. I don't think Martinez is acting like a rabid dog. He wants Jodi to tell the truth and to stop lying about the victim she murdered.
    I respect your opinion. What makes him (to me) seem like an ankle biting, rabid dog is how he HOVERS right in front of her or moves in even closer to stand RIGHT next to her shoulder screaming and jabbing his finger at her.

    Again, I'm gonna say I am neither "team Travis" OR "team Jodi".

    My opinion, which no one has to agree with, is that BOTH of them created this train wreck. He died for encouraging sex with her, her life is over for agreeing to it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    I'm not going to smite you just because I disagree with you. I don't think Martinez is acting like a rabid dog. He wants Jodi to tell the truth and to stop lying about the victim she murdered.
    This! And... Martinez' job is to speak for the dead. We've had 8 days of Jodi-coddling and she's facing the cold-hard truth now. You can't just brutally murder someone, try to duck culpability by claiming "ninjas" and then say it was self-defense because he abused you, but 'I didn't mean to shoot him'!

    Those lies and contradictory statements stacked up for 8-odd days like a house of cards. Don't blame the prosecution for blowing it down. Jodi built that mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Porter View Post
    Is it me or is Juan getting a bit scattered here or is intention to get her impeached or confuse her so much with the dates that he can them rip her to shreads. I am still a bit confused at this point.
    I think he's jumping all over the place intentionally. He's trying to catch Jodi off guard with lies she's told. Plus the def is stalling so its causing a lot of breaks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazarus View Post
    The prosecution is making a big deal out of labeling this guy a strict Mormon. His friends and church (and possibly family) only saw that side of him. It's obviously disgusting to a lot of people that he's being portrayed as such an angel.

    Just be honest. Yes, he wasn't chaste and was breaking a very fundamental virtue in his religion, but what's worse is that he was lying about it. He was telling everyone, "This chic is stalking me," and then he'd turn around and text her in an inviting way. He was keeping this blog about "Being Better" without any intention of doing so. He wasn't intent on leading a pious lifestyle. He was just fooling everyone while he kept his dirty little secrets.

    What I don't get is that after his death, many people are just as blind to his indiscretions and hypocrisy as they were when he was alive. Yeah, he liked sex...and using profanity and sexual expressions, being psychologiclaly abusive, living a double life and lying to everyone, and who knows what else.

    I agree. Jodi definitely screwed herself up with this guy and committed a heinous, egregious act which she should pay for and regret for the rest of her life. She exacted revenge on Travis instead of just leaving the situation and waiting for his next girlfriend (or wife) to do it. Imagine what the next woman would have thought if they found his texts and emails depicting his hidden life.

    Travis was as arrogant as Jodi is now, both thinking that they could get away with what they were doing and did.....Anonymous
    Dirty secrets? The guy liked sex, big deal. I've known dozens of men like Travis, he didn't like anything all that unusual. It may be unusual in the Mormon religion, but not mainstream life. I think religions and there are quite a few, that put unrealistic expectations on the congregation. Then when someone breaks the rules, they are painted as a weak, sneaky, unclean person. I really don't get that. I was in a religion like that because of my family, I was treated like a leper when I couldn't live the life. I don't blame Travis for keeping it quiet, he probably saw like I did what can happen if the church found out. Punishment was up to and including shunning from your own family. That's a high price to pay for liking sex. Sorry if I appear to be picking on religion, I am talking about the ones that treat you like a prostitute if you have sex out of wedlock. I just didn't fit in, it was me not the religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post
    ‎The hardest recap EVER! Holy Sh*t
    Read slow....it will slow the trial down (that's the defense's plan)


    I'd advise anybody to watch the actual video of this. There is no way a recap could ever show the awesomeness of this cross. No way.


    2/‎21/‎13


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    Wow! I'm beyond impressed.
    Getting ready to read it now. Just wanted to say THANK YOU first!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonDancer View Post
    I applaud Jodi for holding her own. I know some of you are going to hate and smite me for this, BUT he's overbearing and as has been mentioned, over and over, on HLN ALWAYS attacking all witnesses, whether they are his own witnesses or defense witnesses.

    To me, he is a man so vested in his perceived power that he thinks he is entitled to act like a rabid dog. I'd hate to know and deal with someone like this in my own personal life. I wouldn't be as polite as Jodi has been.
    I think if you go to NURMI's website he himself uses the words aggressive defence for those who use his services.

    Nurmi as a rule probably only defends men, JM is giving the bitch what she deserves! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeebee View Post
    Awesome, thanks! I was just telling my sister the other day that I hate him, but my only reason was that I didn't think a doctor should be practising on TV, that it's morally wrong. "First do no harm". Now I have more ammunition.
    No prob! I had to use this with my mom. She's a huge Adam/Dr. Drew fan and I had to set her straight. It was right after the Mindy McCready suicide. Adam Carrola is fine, but Dr. Drew is a straight up joke.

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    My furnace guy is on the way over. I probably won't be able to do the recap for after lunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jingles View Post
    That's because people over 40ish, who wear Rx glasses/lenses for distance, can read fine (no "reading glasses" needed), simply by taking off, looking over their Rx glasses. Jodi is 32, not in need or reading glasses for sure. And at her age, if she needs glasses for distance, she wouldn't need to take them off to read.
    I think I might be reading this wrong... but... My mom is going to be 60 this year. If I am reading correctly (I dont think I am) by your logic, she should have been taking off her glasses for the last 20 years to read? My mom has been taking hers off for the last 3. I dont think age has anything to do with it. If I read your post wrong, please excuse me, but for some reason, I just cant make sense of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justice11 View Post
    Did you see Nurmi just look at the clock...man is hungry!

    ETA: called it!
    LMAO! EVERY day, lunch is the same time. Doesn't require a psychic to predict that at 12:00 pm on the nose, the JUDGE is wanting lunch, too!

    I've been watching trials for years and NEVER have I seen so much wasted court time. Jodi's trial starts at 10:30 CMT and ends at 4:30 CMT. Subtract 1 and a half hour for lunch, a 30 minute afternoon break, and total trial time = 4 hours a day.


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    I can't wait till Martinez gets all this journal and whatever else it is entered into evidence. Nurmi is fighting it pretty hard, so it must be good!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeebee View Post
    Oh, you're an ophthalmologist?
    No need to be rude. I was stating simply making an observation, and a comment based in fact And I am over 40, have worn Rx glasses and contacts for distance since I was 17, and now require reading glasses but ONLY if I have my contract lenses on. If I have my distance glasses on, I need only take them off to read, with no problem. I also happen to be an ICU nurse practioner, and worked for 5 years on the post op ophthalmology unit when I first started practicing nursing I know a few things about sight, yes, both professionally and from personal experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    I think he's jumping all over the place intentionally. He's trying to catch Jodi off guard with lies she's told. Plus the def is stalling so its causing a lot of breaks
    Yeah, and I read somewhere (sorry, no cite) that Martinez needs to invade her "space" to get the real Jodi to come out-- you know the Jodi capable of stabbing someone 27 times, slitting their throat and shooting them in the head.

    The meek-Jodi facade needs to fall down to reveal the murderous Jodi.

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    All those journals is how Arias remembered every fucking tedious moment of her pointless life, so glad they're going to come in handy now. Oh yeah, defence lawyers are shitting themselves, they know this is a clusterfuck of a witness

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    Berm - your recaps are amazing. I don't know how you kept up with the first half hour of today!

    Something I noticed.
    Jodi can't remember her "regular, loving' sexual encounters with Travis, all she remembers are the ones that made her feel like shit. Jodi also stated that she loses memory with stressful situations.
    Why in the world would she lose memory, and therefore likely be "stressed" about regular encounters, but remember the bad ones and therefore likely be "not stressed"

    I swear to God my head is spinning in confusion from all her lies trying to make sense of it all

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    I'm still laughing how Juan came out swinging with "your dumb sister" comment, virtually in his first sentence

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    Can someone link me to the Police Report?

    Someone just emailed and asked me for the link.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonDancer View Post
    LMAO! EVERY day, lunch is the same time. Doesn't require a psychic to predict that at 12:00 pm on the nose, the JUDGE is wanting lunch, too!

    I've been watching trials for years and NEVER have I seen so much wasted court time. Jodi's trial starts at 10:30 CMT and ends at 4:30 CMT. Subtract 1 and a half hour for lunch, a 30 minute afternoon break, and total trial time = 4 hours a day.
    Actually it was 2 minutes past. Just saying.

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