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    If she was in a hurry and retrieved the gun from the closet while being chased, how is it that the closet was still in perfect shape? I don't know about you but I would of probably of torn the crap out of that closet to get to what I needed. I hope cross examination addresses this, I'd really like to hear how she just neatly got the gun down. I can't wait to see her get her ass handed tomorrow by the prosecution!

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    oops i mean 21 weekly on the asperin

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    Actually I dont see your point

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    I am not sure this has been addressed yet but she testified today that she tried to tell Detective Flores information that would "match up to what forensic evidence would show" How would she know what that would be since according to her, she does not remember the majority of the murder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by twilit View Post
    For instance, I can't believe some people think Travis had no idea Jodi was taking pictures of him the day of his death even when there are snaps of him in bed looking at the camera and holding up a "peace sign", but truly I don't know for sure, because I wasn't there. The pictures we have are maddening because they give glimpses but hide just as much. I think if you look at the evidence objectively you have to admit there is a lot we don't know. From the text messages from Travis it does show that he was very angry at Jodi, insulting her, and threatening to destroy her reputation among their circle of friends. making it out to be.

    Also whoever said defense lawyers are scum and prosecutors are awesome... wow. Defense lawyers have to defend people when masses are braying for their blood. They get paid much less than prosecutors. So anyway, before you bash defense lawyers think about the service they provide and how things would be if the few established rights citizens do have to defend themselves against accusations made against them were compromised further.
    He might have been aware that she was taking the pictures, but I seriously doubt he was okay with it. Not to be crude, but someone as (supposedly) vain as Travis was, there's no way he would want her to take a picture of his flaccid wacker next to a bottle of KY. Also, fuck if I'd want a seriously imbalanced stalker to have naughty blackmail fodder pictures of me. (Personally, I like to believe I wouldn't bang a seriously imbalanced stalker, buuuut we've already been down that road).

    This is a transcript of the interrogation with Flores:

    FLORES: And you said he doesn`t like you to take pictures of him.

    ARIAS: He was very private about the shower. Like, we...

    FLORES: Is that why you were taking pictures of him in the shower?

    ARIAS: No, no.

    FLORES: Trying to get back at him?

    ARIAS: No.

    FLORES: I`m surprised he allowed you to take pictures of him in the shower. The first few looked like he wasn`t too comfortable. But obviously, whatever you were saying to him made him a little more comfortable.

    ---

    I definitely agree with you about the defense lawyers. Somebody's gotta do it, and I'm just thankful it's not me. As much as Nurmi irks me, Jodi is his cross to bear. By this point I think he'd kill her if he could

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverClipper View Post
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    I would not be shocked to discover that Travis owned a handgun - in spite of his friends having all denied it. But what convinces me that he did not is that I don't believe any manwould own a 25 as a single weapon. That's considered a woman's small handgun suitable for conceilment in a purse etc. IMO

    The gun did NOT belong to Travs.
    You're so right. His good friend, the NRA instructor who took Travis out to the shooting range regularly, states emphatically that Travis did not own a gun, and as you say, if he did, it would most certainly not be a 25. He was Travis' houseguest a week before the murder. Had Travis finally decided to buy a gun he would have told him, the friend said. Plus, no ammunition was found at the house. Who purchases a gun but no ammo, aside from the (convenient) single bullet already loaded in the gun. Jodie also told Flores in her interview that Travis did not own a gun.

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    Youtube account: jodiannarias
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    I didn't know she uploaded this vid.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/jodiannarias/feed?filter=2
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    Nurmi has worked on a DP case before:

    INMATE 045659 - HARDY, RODNEY E.
    Rodney Hardy was sentenced to death for the 2005 murder of Tiffany Lien and Don Stanciel. Hardy and Lien lived together for more than 2 years during their relationship. Rodney was the owner of a limousine service and a regular at the strip club where Lien worked. According to police records, Hardy physically abused Lien on August 26, 2005. Lien decided to leave and party with a stripper girlfriend and Stanciel. Hardy called Lien several times asking her to come back home, and on one of those calls Stanciel took the phone from Lien and told Hardy she was with him now. In the early hours of August 28, Hardy drove to the apartment complex where Lien's friend lived and when the friend came out to buy something at the vending machine, Hardy grabbed her and forced her to take him to her apartment. Hardy kicked in the bedroom door and found Lien and Stanciel sleeping and shot them both to death. Two days later, Hardy turned himself in to Tempe Police.

    PROCEEDINGS
    Presiding Judge: Hon. Michael W. Kemp
    Prosecutor: Jason Kalish
    Defense Counsel: Victoria E. Washington & Kirk Nurmi
    Start of Trial: June 22, 2009
    Verdict: July 16, 2009
    Sentencing: August 20, 2009

    Notice that Victoria Washington was Jodi's original attorney who was able to remove herself from the case. Looks like her and Nurmi worked together before and maybe this is the other attorney he tried to get off of the case with.

    I found 6 cases that Juan tried and was able to get DP convictions on:
    INMATE 038977 - DIXON, CLARENCE W.
    INMATE 036366 - GALLARDO, MICHAEL V
    INMATE 206125 - LYNCH, SHAWN P
    INMATE 096032 - MARTINEZ, ERNESTO S.
    INMATE 196851 - MORRIS, CORY D.

    The female Juan got a conviction on is:
    INMATE 191593 - ANDRIANO, WENDI E.

    Wendi Andriano's husband became seriously ill and had to cease working. Allegedly resentful of her responsibilities, Wendi Andriano began frequenting bars and engaging in extramarital affairs. As her discontent increased, she hatched a scheme to kill her husband and profit from his death. She asked her friends if they would pose as her husband so that she could obtain a life insurance policy. She researched the effects of various poisons and how to obtain them discreetly. Andriano ordered poison and had it sent to a separate business.
    Although Andriano claimed that she was physically and psychologically abused by her husband, none of her friends ever observed any signs of abuse.
    Andriano began slipping sodium azide capsules to her husband. In the early morning hours of October 8, 2000, Andriano called 911 to report that her husband was having a heart attack, but when paramedics arrived, she turned them away. Several hours later, she again called 911 to report that she had stabbed and beaten him in self-defense. When paramedics arrived, they found Joe Andriano dead from repeated beatings and a stab wound to the neck. Weak from the poisoning and chemotherapy, he was unable to defend himself against Andriano, who struck him at least 20 times with a barstool before stabbing him in the neck.

    PROCEEDINGS

    Presiding Judge: Hon. Brian K. Ishikawa
    Prosecutor: Juan Martinez
    Defense Counsel: Daniel Patterson & David Delozier
    Start of Trial: August 23, 2004
    Verdict: November 18, 2004
    Sentencing: December 22, 2004

    Aggravating Circumstances
    Especially heinous, cruel or depraved


    So the juries here in Arizona didn't seem to have a problem convicting and sentencing a woman to death. This man was already sick and dying and she couldn't wait for him to die naturally. She beat him and stabbed him.

    Hopefully Jodi's jury will be like the jury in this case and not have any problems finding her guilty and sentencing her to death.

    RIP Travis


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    Quote Originally Posted by Msmichie View Post
    Hopefully Jodi's jury will be like the jury in this case and not have any problems finding her guilty and sentencing her to death.
    Msmichie, Is that pic of Travis, in your signature, the photo Jodi took of him and had in her online photography portfolio and on the jfineart myspace?

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    Normally I work night, but today (of ALL days) I have to go into work in the morning... so I was wondering if maybe there is a mobile site or maybe an app or something that can stream the trial so i can at least still listen on my phone? I don't wanna miss anything! Any help would DEFINITELY be appreciated. Thanks in advance =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by WooFrigginHoo View Post
    Msmichie, Is that pic of Travis, in your signature, the photo Jodi took of him and had in her online photography portfolio and on the jfineart myspace?
    Yes, I believe it's also the picture they used on his memorial pamphlet. I am not using it because she took it, but because to me his eyes are so full of life. I dunno.. I just really liked it. I didn't realize she took it.

    RIP Travis


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    Hi southpaw here is a link to all the mobile apps
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    if you lose the site, below there's a tag with ALL the live links

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    Quote Originally Posted by dianalyn View Post
    I am not sure this has been addressed yet but she testified today that she tried to tell Detective Flores information that would "match up to what forensic evidence would show" How would she know what that would be since according to her, she does not remember the majority of the murder?
    Don't you find that a bit strange? Like how she was asking Flores to see the autopsy pictures of Travis too. Who does that? She even admitted she was trying to make what she was saying match up with what the police knew. If you killed someone in self defense why would you need your facts to match up with what the police have? Is that like how when you tell the truth you don't need to have a good memory? The story doesn't change when you tell the truth. She was trying to tailor what the police knew to the story she was going to tell so she could save her own ass.

    Quote Originally Posted by songbirdsong View Post
    He might have been aware that she was taking the pictures, but I seriously doubt he was okay with it. Not to be crude, but someone as (supposedly) vain as Travis was, there's no way he would want her to take a picture of his flaccid wacker next to a bottle of KY. Also, fuck if I'd want a seriously imbalanced stalker to have naughty blackmail fodder pictures of me. (Personally, I like to believe I wouldn't bang a seriously imbalanced stalker, buuuut we've already been down that road).

    This is a transcript of the interrogation with Flores:

    FLORES: And you said he doesn`t like you to take pictures of him.

    ARIAS: He was very private about the shower. Like, we...

    FLORES: Is that why you were taking pictures of him in the shower?

    ARIAS: No, no.

    FLORES: Trying to get back at him?

    ARIAS: No.

    FLORES: I`m surprised he allowed you to take pictures of him in the shower. The first few looked like he wasn`t too comfortable. But obviously, whatever you were saying to him made him a little more comfortable.

    ---

    I definitely agree with you about the defense lawyers. Somebody's gotta do it, and I'm just thankful it's not me. As much as Nurmi irks me, Jodi is his cross to bear. By this point I think he'd kill her if he could
    I hope that Martinez brings up the fact that JODI is the one who liked to take pictures of her men while they were in the shower. I think that all of the picture taking, sex talk, tying up, anal and oral sex were all Jodi's idea's that Travis was more than willing to try since I also believe she was his first. If he thought that her lady parts were HOT then he really hadn't seen one that wasn't used and abused like hers were.

    Quote Originally Posted by jingles View Post
    You're so right. His good friend, the NRA instructor who took Travis out to the shooting range regularly, states emphatically that Travis did not own a gun, and as you say, if he did, it would most certainly not be a 25. He was Travis' houseguest a week before the murder. Had Travis finally decided to buy a gun he would have told him, the friend said. Plus, no ammunition was found at the house. Who purchases a gun but no ammo, aside from the (convenient) single bullet already loaded in the gun. Jodie also told Flores in her interview that Travis did not own a gun.
    Yeah, no one is going to have a gun and not have ammo for it. Just like he didn't have any porn on his computer. This guy was not this sexual deviant, perverted pedo that she is trying to make him out to be or they would have found all of this in his house and on his computer. She is the sexual freak and she thought by giving him the smorgasbord of sex she could reel him in and make him love her more. She thought she could win him via sex. When that didn't work, she killed him.

    RIP Travis


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    Quote Originally Posted by eliqueang View Post
    Hi southpaw here is a link to all the mobile apps
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    if you lose the site, below there's a tag with ALL the live links
    Thank you SO much for the help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aliensauce View Post
    whether or not she could remember every detail isn't really relevant at this point, they are just trying to prove that it wasn't premeditated and now it's more of a case of acting in the moment rather than even self defence. After hearing the whole story, I don't think it was premeditated. Has anyone elses opinions changed or do you still think she planned the trip to kill him in the first place?
    I still think she thought a lot about killing him. She hated him. I think she was hacking into his accounts and was reading stuff he said about her to other people they knew. Jodi cares a lot about how other people see her.

    Quote Originally Posted by aliensauce View Post
    It's clear that she suffered from mental illnesses, but I just don't think she's a was a psycho killer with a plan. I think she was just a crazy person who did crazy things. I think it's believable that the gun was Travis's.
    Maybe, but where's the registered papers of gun ownership? Or the friend of Travis' saying he gave Travis the gun or sold him a gun? I can't see Travis buying a black market handgun.


    Quote Originally Posted by animosity View Post
    i would very much like to see a day in the life of jodi in jail.

    i would also lke to be present during after hours with nurmi and his ace team of defense lawyers.

    i don't need to see advocate martinez when he's done for the day as i imagine it's simply him in a leather armchair, in front of a fireplace with a glass of scotch on the rocks and a faint smile playing his lips.
    That's also how I see JM.
    Jodi sounds like she is pretty popular in jail. It's probably very easy for her if that's the case.
    If she is found guilty, wouldn't she get transferred to prison?

    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw79 View Post
    Normally I work night, but today (of ALL days) I have to go into work in the morning... so I was wondering if maybe there is a mobile site or maybe an app or something that can stream the trial so i can at least still listen on my phone? I don't wanna miss anything! Any help would DEFINITELY be appreciated. Thanks in advance =)
    Here's some links for all the new people joining in that may not have them:

    Links for live feeds.
    http://www.azfamily.com/home/Watch-L...185415702.html
    http://wildabouttrial.com/videos/jod...ve-stream.html
    http://radaronline.com/exclusives/20...al-livestream/

    Mobile apps for live stream
    http://q.belo.com/shared/mobappdir/i...mily&wrapper=y

    Watch the trial on you mobile device
    ? To watch live video of the Arias trial on your iPhone or iPad, just download the appropriate free app from iTunes. Once the app is installed, just scroll down to the Live Video tile. Tap it to start the stream.
    ? To watch on Android devices, download the free Ustream app from Google Play. In the Ustream app, click the Search button. Search for azfamily. Tap the the 3TV thumbnail and then click play.

    Itunes app
    https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wild...530043712?mt=8

    A collection of links in this case (facebooks, videos, news sites, pictures, etc..)
    https://sites.google.com/site/jodiariastrial/

    Photos of the crime scene
    http://s193.beta.photobucket.com/use...is%20Alexander

    Blog of the trial. Has recaps for everyday. Just click the calendar to the side for the date you want.
    http://callsforjustice.wordpress.com/

    Youtube account that posts the trial videos.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVVqSfMZg6Q

    And my blog where I post my recaps (when I get time) They are the same ones I post on here.
    http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/

    And VERY good house photos
    http://s193.beta.photobucket.com/use...is%20Alexander
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    Have just watched one of the videos where Travis is appearing at a PPL conference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5Y55ihmQdM

    I couldn't bring myself to watch them before just because of knowing what she had done to him but what a charismatic funny guy he was. If PPL hadn't have worked out for him he could easily have been a stand up comic.

    If you haven't watched them you should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WooFrigginHoo View Post


    Youtube account: jodiannarias
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    I didn't know she uploaded this vid.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/jodiannarias/feed?filter=2
    It's so creepy to hear her laughter in this. Ugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvian View Post
    Have just watched one of the videos where Travis is appearing at a PPL conference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5Y55ihmQdM

    I couldn't bring myself to watch them before just because of knowing what she had done to him but what a charismatic funny guy he was. If PPL hadn't have worked out for him he could easily have been a stand up comic.

    If you haven't watched them you should.
    I would like to watch them, but I am having the same apprehension. I mean, hearing his voice on the "sexytimes tape" was sad enough. shoot, seeing pics of his eyelashes almost made me cry. I dunno how sad seeing him being himself, a funny, charming, regular guy would be.

    Question: Have they or will they be able to introduce those vids somehow to show what his REAL character was like, as opposed to the sex deviant, pedo monster with rage issues she turned him out to be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mydeathspace View Post
    Her little emo brother probably stole the money and the gun!
    Bombshell!!

    You know, her brother looks a bit skater-ish in this picture. I bet he and his thug skater friends are the same vandals who put her license plate on upside down!

    I'd really like to know where he was on June 4th.
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw79 View Post
    I would like to watch them, but I am having the same apprehension. I mean, hearing his voice on the "sexytimes tape" was sad enough. shoot, seeing pics of his eyelashes almost made me cry. I dunno how sad seeing him being himself, a funny, charming, regular guy would be.

    Question: Have they or will they be able to introduce those vids somehow to show what his REAL character was like, as opposed to the sex deviant, pedo monster with rage issues she turned him out to be?
    Oh I hope JM does use those videos to show that. I don't buy the pedo story and if he was ragey, I for one couldn't blame him, she seems to have tried every trick in the book to keep him and draw him back to her and I do believe he cared enough about her not to walk away entirely.

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    I feel like a kid on Christmas morning!!!!!

    Bring on Martinez! Get justice for Travis!!!

    Team Travis

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    Does anyone know who the “mystery man” was, the guy sitting with his back to the wall next to mitigation woman and Wilmutt? He didn't appear to be from Sheriff Dept, but he was pretty focused on Jodi and her testimony. I do not recall seeing him before yesterday. Very curious to know who is this man and if he plays into a theory my husband and I have re him and defense upcoming tactics.
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by poorpaula View Post
    Does anyone know who the “mystery man” was, the guy sitting with his back to the wall next to mitigation woman and Wilmutt? He didn't appear to be from Sheriff Dept, but he was pretty focused on Jodi and her testimony. I do not recall seeing him before yesterday. Very curious to know who is this man and if he plays into a theory my husband and I have re him and defense upcoming tactics.
    Thanks
    I didn't notice him. What is your theory?

    I went back and looked at the trial from yesterday on YouTube. I hadn't seen him in court before yesterday. My guess would be that he was one of the attorney's assistants, maybe?? Looking forward to your theory. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvian View Post
    Oh I hope JM does use those videos to show that. I don't buy the pedo story and if he was ragey, I for one couldn't blame him, she seems to have tried every trick in the book to keep him and draw him back to her and I do believe he cared enough about her not to walk away entirely.
    I don't buy the pedo thing one bit... specially not when it is including the pigtails, schoolgirl outfit, and the shaved vajayjay liking (cuz lot of my exes would be pretty unhappy to find out they might be carrying some pedo-tendencies, lol). There isn't really a SINGLE shred of evidence pointing to the little boy pics or really ANY of her allegations against him other than her word... which is basically worthless at this point!

    I sincerely DO hope they get to show some kind of videos of what he was REALLY like, not her warped version... that way the jury will have that side of him in their minds. I would like Travis to get a chance to show how he really was, in HIS words, in his videos. AND, on top of that, I would like the portions of the texts that they conveniently danced around to be read in their entirety. Show what a manipulative person she really was/IS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChelseyDawn View Post
    Yes, but then we would miss JM's cross and I can't WAIT to see him catch her in all her lies and deceptions. I want to see her shake like a chihuahua!!!!! ;)



    Jodi: ? I don?t know if it was shown in that picture, but there is also a seat. So I moved the seat around to stand on it to get up there and it was up there.? At about 16:10.
    I saw the bench in a pic of the closet. It was smack dab in the middle of the closet, no sign of it having been dragged to e shelf. Nice try though....

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