Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

[Harlette]

OMG> Were you just watching with Cynthia from Alabama? I swear she sounds like this loon that calls into a local radio show.

She was going nuts about Jodi and getting her the death penalty.

Dr. Drew said "I hope you get a good night's sleep tonight after that outburst".

omg nutball! i am glad she isn't my mom!!

[Rockabillychick]

OMG> Were you just watching with Cynthia from Alabama? I swear she sounds like this loon that calls into a local radio show.

She was going nuts about Jodi and getting her the death penalty.

Dr. Drew said "I hope you get a good night's sleep tonight after that outburst".

LOL Warm milk!

[Harlette]

Its Abe vs CreepyGus on Dr. Drew tonight



ETA: I guess we can't post pics from our computers. I must have been seeing things this morning.

here we go!!

[NCBlonde]

Soooo, Jodi said that she still had love for Travis; "a different kind of love"?

I sure hope no one ever "loves" me that way.

On a side note, as much as I think Abe loves the attention, I think he is a truth-telling person. I believe he actually cares about what happened to Travis and he cares about Jodi receiving justice.

[Harlette]

wtf - abes phone didn't cut out??

[M Joy]

here we go!!

Dr. Drew show is messed up tonight. Who are these callers?
Also I thought it was going to be Abe and Gus live.

[Justice11]

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Not to sound overly scammy, but Prermium members don't get Ads. haha

Great benefit!!!!

Sorry, but I know myself a heck of a lot more than you do. I'm not going to spend my time defending myself to you. Geez, and I thought I was judgmental.

Don't worry about it. I don't think most of us are judging you at all.

this!!! nurmi argued for days for a mistrial because they claim she did not take anything from the house and could not be charged with felon murder - and today she did - she stole his gun

in dr drew - he is about to have dueling abe and gus against each other

Lol! Good point!

[Harlette]

Dr. Drew show is messed up tonight. Who are these callers?
Also I thought it was going to be Abe and Gus live.

[AnnieBelle]

No pun intended but I can't seem to wrap my mind around how they are thinking he was shot in the head first. I guess the autopsy showed that it was a direct shot, and that his brain was already decomposed so it was hard to tell, but I was always under the impression that smaller calibers, like .22's and .25's could pick up more momentum so they can kind of bounce around the inside of the head, turning it into mush. I know there are cases where people have been shot and survived, but such a direct hit just seems like it would be incapacitating. Plus the bullet casing landed on top of blood. Meaning blood was already present when the gun was fired.

Her story contradicts the evidence in several instances.....her story is just not plausible. I am not a strong proponant of the death penalty but, in this case, I hope they succeed.

[NCBlonde]

No pun intended but I can't seem to wrap my mind around how they are thinking he was shot in the head first. I guess the autopsy showed that it was a direct shot, and that his brain was already decomposed so it was hard to tell, but I was always under the impression that smaller calibers, like .22's and .25's could pick up more momentum so they can kind of bounce around the inside of the head, turning it into mush. I know there are cases where people have been shot and survived, but such a direct hit just seems like it would be incapacitating. Plus the bullet casing landed on top of blood. Meaning blood was already present when the gun was fired.

I'm not sure which came first, and I don't really think it matters, but I can see it from both sides.

The angle of the shot means Jodi was aiming down at Travis when she pulled the trigger. There is the last photo of him, sitting in the shower. It would seem logical that she shot him shortly after that, while he was still in that position.

The other explanation is that she shot him after the stabbing and neck slicing, in order to insure that he was truly dead. I can understand that thinking as well. But, in that case, it means that somehow, after she had already done all that damage, that he was in a sitting position. You would think a guy who was attacked so viciously and hurt so badly, would have a hard time sitting up. I would have expected him to be prone on the floor. Although I suppose she could have been dragging him into the shower when she discovered he was still making noises? Death throes? And so then she leaned him against the door of the shower and pulled the trigger?

I think a caliber that is so small would've done some damage, as in disability to Travis, but it wouldn't have likely been an immediate kill shot. It really depends on what the bullet hit when it entered. And considering different lobes of the brain and different functions, it may not have hit an extremely vital area that would end in immediate death.

I know it sounds crazy to say that shooting someone in the head wouldn't do a lot of damage. But a small bullet, at just the right angle...

I'm not sure about the bullet casing. I know there was not blood on top of it, but was there blood underneath? There would've been blood coating the underside of the bullet if it fell into the blood and it dried for 5 days.

Is there a possibility that the bullet was kicked -- by the roommates/friends, or someone with the police, and ended up where it landed?

[wasthinking]

No pun intended but I can't seem to wrap my mind around how they are thinking he was shot in the head first. I guess the autopsy showed that it was a direct shot, and that his brain was already decomposed so it was hard to tell, but I was always under the impression that smaller calibers, like .22's and .25's could pick up more momentum so they can kind of bounce around the inside of the head, turning it into mush. I know there are cases where people have been shot and survived, but such a direct hit just seems like it would be incapacitating. Plus the bullet casing landed on top of blood. Meaning blood was already present when the gun was fired.

There are so many stories about being shot and moving around. One story a guy drives himself to a hospital or something, another with one small bullet landing in the wrong spot and you are dead.
Look at the kid from Columbine, two frontal shots and he crawled across the library, to the windows were the Swat team saved him.
We don't KNOW the bullet landed that day on top of blood. All we can say for sure is it was found there - after several people had walked through the crime scene.

I honestly don't think Flores wrote his report of went in to testify before a grand jury probable cause making it up as he went for no reason. He doesn't come off that lax on his job or dumb to me.

[Kristinella]

This gif reminds me of Jodi:



DID SHE KNOW TRAVIS TOO?

[Kristinella]

Yeah, it's hard to know. I mean just say he did get shot in the head first and didn't immediately die, maybe that's when Jodi grabbed the knife and went crazy to kill him for sure because she was shocked he wasn't on the ground and usually people who get shot in the head go down. Like, she knew he wasn't going to be too happy with her after the fact so she had to make sure he was dead first.

I'm kind of believing that she shot him last because she possibly heard some kind of death gargle escape from the big ass slash in his throat and wanted him dead. I can totally get behind the theory that she brought a gun there to cry suicide to him.

[M Joy]

This gif reminds me of Jodi:



DID SHE KNOW TRAVIS TOO?

It took me a second to see that finger. Yikes.

[Twinmutha]

Thank God Nurmi is done!

Ding dong the witch is dead, which ole witch, the wicked witch, ding dong the wicked witch is dead!!!!

I know, he's a boy and he's not dead, but I am just so happy!!!!!

Hi ho the merry o, sing it high, sing it low..... Now I will be singing that all night. He he Jodi is the witch for sure! Nurmi is a troll.....

[Still Ticking]

Don't worry about it. I don't think most of us are judging you at all.

Thank you so much... I'm still a noob and so far I've felt like I'm in the right place. I was honest about one moment out of my life and I got attacked for it. That kind of stuff will push some people away. So, I do appreciate the hug.

[NCBlonde]

"I couldn't think about dialing 911; I just wanted to die."

"But instead I drove to Utah and tried to hump another guy!"

*vomit*

[wasthinking]

this!!! nurmi argued for days for a mistrial because they claim she did not take anything from the house and could not be charged with felon murder - and today she did - she stole his gun

in dr drew - he is about to have dueling abe and gus against each other

I can't wait! This is going to be interesting. She's made so many stupid mistakes (they hardly need an ME to argue about). I'd love if Juan had her get on the floor and show us how this shot occured at that angle first or last. Oops, one thing all MEs agree on is, it wasn't close range. Meaning while Travis had her around the waist.

[Still Ticking]

It took me a second to see that finger. Yikes.

This gif reminds me of Jodi:



DID SHE KNOW TRAVIS TOO?

I LOVE this!!! I'm so hung up on that dang finger... lol

[Harlette]

Yeah, it's hard to know. I mean just say he did get shot in the head first and didn't immediately die, maybe that's when Jodi grabbed the knife and went crazy to kill him for sure because she was shocked he wasn't on the ground and usually people who get shot in the head go down. Like, she knew he wasn't going to be too happy with her after the fact so she had to make sure he was dead first.

I'm kind of believing that she shot him last because she possibly heard some kind of death gargle escape from the big ass slash in his throat and wanted him dead. I can totally get behind the theory that she brought a gun there to cry suicide to him.

ok i am finally watching NG - and she ran to the closet to run out the other door - but instead grabbed the gun and ran back to him??? - doesn't shoot herself in the foot w/ this??? -

[Harlette]

Thank you so much... I'm still a noob and so far I've felt like I'm in the right place. I was honest about one moment out of my life and I got attacked for it. That kind of stuff will push some people away. So, I do appreciate the hug.

what justice said

[Rockabillychick]

So he jumped out of the shower ... wet on tile... bodyslammed her... wet on tile... and ran at her.... wet on tile. Talent.

[Still Ticking]

I'm trying to pay back some reps. Who left the msg. about "...being touched in the head?" I owe ya one

[smashie]

I don't see a Gacy or Mendez in Jodi necessarily. Not so much evil but broken. She needed help and never addressed it. I'm curious if she encountered some abuse in her childhood after her younger siblings were born which caused her to start this cycle. Not defending her at all, but I really think she has a moral compass deep down, but her mental health and the "all about me" narcissistic personality has completely covered it up.

She's been in prison surrounded by women, family members and lawyers who have her believe that she is a victim. I think she knows deep down that she really did something horrible and wasn't victimized, but refuses to admit that in order to save her own ass. However, I wonder if she actually broke down for real and just told the truth and showed remorse if she would garner some sympathy. The pretending not to know act is completely hanging her right now.

I don't think deep down she feels anything. She feels bad because she got caught, she feels bad because people will know what "she is capable of". She didn't express or verbalize one shred of remorse for Travis. NONE. Nurmi was even trying to get her to say the word and she flat out refused to use that word...PERIOD.

That's why I don't think she went there to pretend like she was going to hurt herself and then went off on Travis. She has zero guilt for what she did. Only that she got caught.

[wasthinking]

Thank you so much... I'm still a noob and so far I've felt like I'm in the right place. I was honest about one moment out of my life and I got attacked for it. That kind of stuff will push some people away. So, I do appreciate the hug.

Im sorry you felt my personal opionon on the subject of violence was a personal attack. It's my opinion for all violence.