Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

[PCP777]

From what I've been reading from your recent posts, Ron, all women in YOUR life are whores. And I'm sorry to hear about that. You should try to be a better judge of character--- because not all of us women TAKE advantage of men. I know there are worthwhile men out there that can make us women happy by not providing materialistic things.

There's a thread for that! I think Ron is one of those guys, he just doesn't know it yet. One of the awesome super secret threads you get as a premie! JOIN TODAY!

http://mydeathspace.com/vb/showthrea...33-Ron-s-rants

I agree! The body language in many pics of Travis and JA does not reflect a couple in love. Travis seems at best disinterested.

It would seem that she was one of those women who that chase what they can't have, the more you won't let her have it the more she chases. He probably didn't give a crap about her at all and would knock it off as a piece of ass whenever he was bored.

Of course she did! Total premeditation! I'm sure she said it was unrelated, but what are the chances that a .25 caliber gun is stolen from the home you live in and the very next week you use a .25 caliber gun to kill someone?

Yeah pretty coincidental.

[wasthinking]

As long as we are in down time, some might be interested in a little of Nurmi's history I found. I posted Juan way back.


1998 -2000 Wyoming
http://law.justia.com/cases/wyoming/...00/124328.html

Student Intern Wyoming
http://law.justia.com/cases/wyoming/...00/124262.html

2000 May 2 - New Law Clerk Maricopa Co PD office
http://tinyurl.com/cmoydd6

http://phoenix_copwatch.tripod.com/m...ws/cw2528.html

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/new...66ac908b2.html

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/new...fdaaa7d85.html

http://varsity.evtrib.com/page/slideshow/1032
Chandler, AZ - Santana Batiz Aceves, aka Ricardo Ramirez Lopez, aka ?Chaparro? , aka ?Shorty?, aka The Chandler Rapist

McDorman
http://tinyurl.com/c2nv2h4

[Shahoolie11]

I don't think pics like this tell anything much.
1. Travis had a mannerism w his face, raised eyebrows even in pics where he is alone. I refer to this in men as the "I'm too cool" look.
2. We clearly know by now, he was definately IN to her in more ways than one. From sex to 'you are beautiful' statements.
3. If anything, complying with any photo with her supports he was connected in some way and not objecting to being seen with her.

Right, I agree.
I wasn't reading into it too much. Merely just stating a general look of disinterest on his face...relating it to the comment DenverClipper made...

[tiggrrl72077]

As long as we are in down time, some might be interested in a little of Nurmi's history I found. I posted Juan way back.


1998 -2000 Wyoming
http://law.justia.com/cases/wyoming/...00/124328.html

Student Intern Wyoming
http://law.justia.com/cases/wyoming/...00/124262.html

2000 May 2 - New Law Clerk Maricopa Co PD office
http://tinyurl.com/cmoydd6

http://phoenix_copwatch.tripod.com/m...ws/cw2528.html

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/new...66ac908b2.html

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/new...fdaaa7d85.html

http://varsity.evtrib.com/page/slideshow/1032
Chandler, AZ - Santana Batiz Aceves, aka Ricardo Ramirez Lopez, aka ?Chaparro? , aka ?Shorty?, aka The Chandler Rapist

McDorman
http://tinyurl.com/c2nv2h4

Isn't the judge on Jodi's case Sherry Stephens? She was the judge on this case as well http://phoenix_copwatch.tripod.com/m...ws/cw2528.html She is quoted in the article.

[wasthinking]

Isn't the judge on Jodi's case Sherry Stephens? She was the judge on this case as well http://phoenix_copwatch.tripod.com/m...ws/cw2528.html She is quoted in the article.

yes. She went into criminal court 2004


http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.go...05&jdgUSID=217

Assignment History:


Department:

Family Court



Year:

6/2007



Location:

Southeast Facility in Mesa



Department:

Criminal



Year:

9/2004



Location:

Southeast Facility in Mesa



Department:

Juvenile



Year:

8/2001



Location:

Juvenile Court Southeast Facility in Mesa

Work History:


2001 - Present:

Judge, Superior Court in Maricopa County



1980 - 2001:

Assistant Attorney General, Arizona Attorney General's Office - Organized Crime and Fraud Section

[wasthinking]

Right, I agree.
I wasn't reading into it too much. Merely just stating a general look of disinterest on his face...relating it to the comment DenverClipper made...

LOL, sorry ... can we move it to Denver?

[tiggrrl72077]

She was the Judge on Nurmi's case(the one in the article.) He lost the case

[marycontrary]

I don't think pics like this tell anything much.
1. Travis had a mannerism w his face, raised eyebrows even in pics where he is alone. I refer to this in men as the "I'm too cool" look.
2. We clearly know by now, he was definately IN to her in more ways than one. From sex to 'you are beautiful' statements.
3. If anything, complying with any photo with her supports he was connected in some way and not objecting to being seen with her.

Remember she testified they had a big fight and it ruined the magic at Disney.

[wasthinking]

She was the Judge on Nurmi's case(the one in the article.) He lost the case

Mike Tyson stood before her

[wasthinking]

Remember she testified they had a big fight and it ruined the magic at Disney.

"she said" no offense but ...

Facts from his friends, texts, chats etc are, he started out thinking she was great. Even in the May call we hear him thinking she is a the least beautiful. I don't think there is any denying that this was a difficult relationship for them, both and although part was a booty call there was so much more in this affair. Light and dark sides you could sasy. At one time he did have feelings for her and they got mixed in with sex, sexual fantasties, a willing partner and having to come to reality she was a sneak, lair and things he didn't like. Far more complicated tumalutuous affair than he just wasn't that into you.

[MoonDancer]

By no means am I Jodi supporter, but that pic of her makes me sad. She really was beautiful back then. She could have had an army of men beating down her door. Guess this just proves that old saying "You can't judge a book by its cover".

[twilit]

By no means am I Jodi supporter, but that pic of her makes me sad. She really was beautiful back then. She could have had an army of men beating down her door. Guess this just proves that old saying "You can't judge a book by its cover".

She was pretty, and looks ten years younger than she does now at the time of that interview and the inside edition one. The platinum blonde looked really horrible on her though. She was trying to turn herself into a Pamela Anderson barbie with the implants and dye job, and then surprised when she wasn't taken seriously in the mormon community.

[MoonDancer]

The platinum blonde looked really horrible on her though. She was trying to turn herself into a Pamela Anderson barbie with the implants and dye job, and then surprised when she wasn't taken seriously in the mormon community.

Totally agree! She was not pretty as a blonde. I dunno...to me it made her look horse faced and so unnatural. She was very attractive with her natural hair color. I know I'd never look good as a blonde! Wouldn't compliment my natural skin tone. I'm neither "team Jodi" OR "team Travis. I see them both as flawed people who didn't give any consideration to how they treated other people.

Hell, I've been in bad relationships where I felt used and abused. I just walked away, cut the person out of my life (no pun intended), but never considered killing them. The only person I ever wanted to kill was myself.

[raisedbywolves]

By no means am I Jodi supporter, but that pic of her makes me sad. She really was beautiful back then. She could have had an army of men beating down her door. Guess this just proves that old saying "You can't judge a book by its cover".

Totally not a Jodi supporter here, but any loss of human potential makes me sad...and she definitely had some potential. Had she chosen a more difficult path of going back to school instead of trying to gold dig I think she could have done something with her life. Yes, she had mental issues to overcome but I still think she made a choice somewhere along the way to take the easier path, and the rest is history. It also goes to prove the old saying that "Beauty is what is on the inside".

[raisedbywolves]

She was pretty, and looks ten years younger than she does now at the time of that interview and the inside edition one. The platinum blonde looked really horrible on her though. She was trying to turn herself into a Pamela Anderson barbie with the implants and dye job, and then surprised when she wasn't taken seriously in the mormon community.

It also goes to show, for the people that think women should always be super skinny and that there's no such thing as too skinny, that she looked 150% better with some weight on her. This is not to bash really slim people, just to say that to some degree we must all deal with the genes we are born with. Sure, exercise and try to eat right but 25 pounds are not the difference between beauty/ugly or happiness/unhappiness.

[raisedbywolves]

Totally not a Jodi supporter here, but any loss of human potential makes me sad...and she definitely had some potential. Had she chosen a more difficult path of going back to school instead of trying to gold dig I think she could have done something with her life. Yes, she had mental issues to overcome but I still think she made a choice somewhere along the way to take the easier path, and the rest is history. It also goes to prove the old saying that "Beauty is what is on the inside".

I see Travis as flawed too, but I think that's the thing that makes so many people pony up to be on 'Team Travis'-loss of a lot of potential. Jodi made the one choice that had finality to it and with it she took away the last of her real potential and all the potential Travis had. He had come so far, and it's obvious he had so much more potential, so who knows where he could have gone with it if she had not killed him. They both made bad decisions but she made a decision that took away the opportunity for future decisions.

[twilit]

Totally agree! She was not pretty as a blonde. I dunno...to me it made her look horse faced and so unnatural. She was very attractive with her natural hair color. I know I'd never look good as a blonde! Wouldn't compliment my natural skin tone. I'm neither "team Jodi" OR "team Travis. I see them both as flawed people who didn't give any consideration to how they treated other people.

Hell, I've been in bad relationships where I felt used and abused. I just walked away, cut the person out of my life (no pun intended), but never considered killing them. The only person I ever wanted to kill was myself.

yeah the thing is I can identify with how Jodi must have felt, I have felt truly miserable for a long time when I realized a relationship wasn't going to work out. I also can understand wanting revenge against someone you feel has wronged you and feeling like you'll never get over it and can't bear to see them move on without you. But what it took for her to seriously entertain the idea of murder and then carrying it out in what seems like a very premeditated way is what I can't fathom. Add to it the way she has behaved since and it's just incomprehensible. I'm not into taking teams with either of them for the same reason you said though.

[Shahoolie11]

Remember she testified they had a big fight and it ruined the magic at Disney.

Ahhhh yes, that's right!
Makes sense...

[Jinkasaurus]

Curious how many people here think that Travis knew she was coming to see him on the 4th?

They spoke on the phone on the 2nd and the 3rd, but there are no records of any phone or email contact after 8:32pm on 6/3 between them.

[Jinkasaurus]

Sorry, they spoke at 8:16pm on the 3rd - call was 2 minutes 9 seconds -

This is a good timeline of her trip: http://www.hlntv.com/slideshow/2013/...ragic-roadtrip

[aaronsmommy]

Y'all crack me up. Just caught up on the jibber jabber that had happened since Thursday morning.

Got through a good chunk of it "wow, no one is fighting yet after 3 days of no trial!?" Enter Ron.

[Jinkasaurus]

Ok, that should have said 8:16pm - that is apparently the last phone call between Travis and Jodi- on June 3rd.

[coconut]

Curious how many people here think that Travis knew she was coming to see him on the 4th?

They spoke on the phone on the 2nd and the 3rd, but there are no records of any phone or email contact after 8:32pm on 6/3 between them.

I say he knew she was coming and wanted/invited her there. My reasons:

1. Nobody was at the house but him, privacy for sexy time & nobody sees him with a woman he considered beneath him.
2. He was awake when she got there at 4am, obviously waiting for her arrival.
3. He had no work obligations during the time she visited.

[Jinkasaurus]

I say he knew she was coming and wanted/invited her there. My reasons:

1. Nobody was at the house but him, privacy for sexy time & nobody sees him with a woman he considered beneath him.
2. He was awake when she got there at 4am, obviously waiting for her arrival.
3. He had no work obligations during the time she visited.

Hmmmm.... well, I am not sure if #3 is correct- he was supposed to be on a conference call on the afternoon of 6/4 I believe with people from work.

#1 - I believe there was a roommate who came home the night of the murder- I want to say sometime around 9-10pm, but I will have to search for that. I also think the roommate might have been home at some point during the day that Jodi was there, but again, I would need to search for that.

on #2 - yes there is proof of computer activity on Travis' computer in the early am of June 4th, but I am not sure that proves that he was expecting her......

[Msmichie]

I don't blame them for trying, that's their job and it is pretty damning evidence. Might even tried to run with too prejudicial, blah blah haven't proved she stole it blah blah.
Either way for her self def claim, she's going to have to dream up a gun and WHY she brought a gun to a sex session.

I think they are going to try to say that she brought a gun with her because she was traveling to Utah by herself in that rental and needed protection. I don't think she will admit that she stole it from her grandparents either. I wonder how they are going to try to explain away that one was stolen mere days before Travis is shot with the same caliber?? That to me is what gives Juan the premeditation that he needs for the DP. I would be fine if she got life in prison without parole, but I would rather her worry about her execution date and when they were going to kill her. I would like it better if Arizona were more like Texas and actually had a express lane for the DP.. but they don't. Seems like it takes forever for this state to have an execution.