Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

[wasthinking]

that was nice of you to look up considering all i read was snark in wasthinkings response to you.

I am new here, MY style is facts, giving and receiving. I don't do a lot of goofing around like some prefer. I enjoy reading humor I just don't do it myself. I spend time on tje case/
Sometimes I am workiing on researching things and can be brief but I never dreamed wanting facts is consider snark! I will always question for FACTS as I don't go off rumors.

If a more serious factual based style is not welcome here as another form of contribution, please let me know.

[Justice11]

hi, thanks but you don't give any link to where you get that figure. I was looking for concrete data. Also would like to know - How many in what time span and what methods were used etc.

This one is apples and oranges too really because it is prisons not jails but, with their "every day attempt" and only 19 deaths, that would only be 3%.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/201206...n-suicide-rate

With the tour they showed of that Estrella, it has 24/7 monitoring and said that is why they have to limit male staff , plus they have every 15 min walk rounds. This is why I wanted specific to this place.
FYI, I might have been brief, direct, but it I wasnt feeling any snark at all.

It doesn't matter. Jodi NEVER even attempted suicide. That was just a lie to add onto the pile of lies that she has already told.
Maybe you can look up the data if that is really something you feel is needed. No offense meant, but I just don't see how it is relevant. Maybe I am missing something. :/

[Dimple blossom]

Well I missed a lot bit caught your story
Dimple blossom
Dimple blossom is online now .((((Hugs)))It takes courage to stand up to a bully and you did.Bully's always back down after you stand up to them.

<3

[Dimple blossom]

It doesn't matter. Jodi NEVER even attempted suicide. That was just a lie to add onto the pile of lies that she has already told.
Maybe you can look up the data if that is really something you feel is needed. No offense meant, but I just don't see how it is relevant. Maybe I am missing something. :/

You are dead on the money and NOT missing anything girl!

[Justice11]

I am not defending Jodie of murder, she killed him! I am saying he played games with her, knowing she was not all there once they broke up. When a person has had it with someone, they don't continue to have sex with them. When a person breaks up with someone and that someone starts to get scary, it is time to cut all communication with their ex. No one, woman or man would be having sex with their ex, if they slashed their tires , not once but twice. He had all kinds of warnings and he just ignored them, for his sex. He used Jodie plain and simple, he played games plain and simple. He lost his life for being a jerk, plain and simple. Jodie would had probably just moved on, if he was a mature adult male.

Nope. Travis is dead because JODI decided she wanted to viciously murder him. I hate the whole "blame the victim" mentality. How about we blame the person who admits to it?

You and I are just going to have to agree to disagree. And that is okay. We are each entitled to our own opinions.

[wasthinking]

It doesn't matter. Jodi NEVER even attempted suicide. That was just a lie to add onto the pile of lies that she has already told.
Maybe you can look up the data if that is really something you feel is needed. No offense meant, but I just don't see how it is relevant. Maybe I am missing something. :/

omg, it started with me being sarc, one of my rare funnies. "how she going to kill herself, eat her mattress and die of bowel obstruction'.
That poster came back with a blanket statement about how easy it is etc.
I replied, asking for that jail what are the stats.
They came back with throwing out a figure with no supported link to data.

That's what it was. Geesh, I see why people don't feel welcome.

[Justice11]

I am new here, MY style is facts, giving and receiving. I don't do a lot of goofing around like some prefer. I enjoy reading humor I just don't do it myself. I spend time on tje case/
Sometimes I am workiing on researching things and can be brief but I never dreamed wanting facts is consider snark! I will always question for FACTS as I don't go off rumors.

If a more serious factual based style is not welcome here as another form of contribution, please let me know.

I think we have just the right amount of goofing around and actual seriousness.

Your post might have come across wrong only because it seemed like you were expecting someone else to get the facts for you. No worries...MDS seems to me to be a place where lots of opinions are welcome. (I'm still really new, but that is the vibe I get.)

[Justice11]

omg, it started with me being sarc, one of my rare funnies. "how she going to kill herself, eat her mattress and die of bowel obstruction'.
That poster came back with a blanket statement about how easy it is etc.
I replied, asking for that jail what are the stats.
They came back with throwing out a figure with no supported link to data.

That's what it was. Geesh, I see why people don't feel welcome.

Meh, it's late. Maybe I just came across wrong. I am very opinionated and sometimes that happens.

No offense meant.

[johnmartinsain]

I can't stop thinking of this song and video when thinking about this case.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZz56ghOY7Y

I've been a bad bad girl
I've been careless with a delicate man
And it's a sad sad world
When a girl will break a boy
Just because she can
Don't you tell me to deny it
I've done wrong and I want to
Suffer for my sins
I've come to you 'cause I need
Guidance to be true
And I just don't know where I can begin

What I need is a good defense
'Cause I'm feelin' like a criminal
And I need to redeemed
To the one I've sinned against
Because he's all I ever knew of love

Heaven help me for the way I am
Save me from these evil deeds
Before I get them done
I know tomorrow brings the consequence
At hand
But I keep livin' this day like
The next will never come

Oh help me but don't tell me
To deny it
I've got to cleanse myself
Of all these lies till I'm good
Enough for him
I've got a lot to lose and I'm
Bettin' high
So I'm beggin' you before it ends
Just tell me where to begin

Let me know the way
Before there's hell to pay
Give me room to lay the law and let me go
I've got to make a play
To make my lover stay
So what would an angel say
The devil wants to know

[songbirdsong]

Mi scusi to whoever posted the link to Travis's obit page, I'm too lazy to scroll and give you credit.

This was what Jodi wrote:

Travis, what can I say to you that I haven't already said? I am so grateful for the endless hours of conversation and amazing experiences we've shared. Thank you for having the courage to share the Gospel with me. You've had one of the greatest impacts on my life, and have forever altered it's course for the better. I love you, my friend, and always will.

I know we've established that she loves to lie (diary, etc), but I agree that this is frickin' ridiculous.

There are a lot of you who've been through horrid abuse, so I'm wondering...is this something you would write? I get that every relationship has its good times (usually), but do you view your tormentors with the same goodwill? This is purely speculative, but if I almost lost my life and had to stab/slice/shoot a person, I don't think I'd write that shit. I don't think I would write anything.

"They just found you slumped over in the shower decomposed because I killed you, but I totally think you've changed my life for the better."

I FUCKING HATE HER.

[Dimple blossom]

Mi scusi to whoever posted the link to Travis's obit page, I'm too lazy to scroll and give you credit.

This was what Jodi wrote:



I know we've established that she loves to lie (diary, etc), but I agree that this is frickin' ridiculous.

There are a lot of you who've been through horrid abuse, so I'm wondering...is this something you would write? I get that every relationship has its good times (usually), but do you view your tormentors with the same goodwill? This is purely speculative, but if I almost lost my life and had to stab/slice/shoot a person, I don't think I'd write that shit. I don't think I would write anything.

"They just found you slumped over in the shower decomposed because I killed you, but I totally think you've changed my life for the better."

I FUCKING HATE HER.

I totally agree songbirdsong! She wrote that before she got caught and arrested and she also did it for her defense theory she planned on using from the get go. Around the same time period before getting arrested she also made a Myspace "In Memory Of Travis Alexander" photo album on her Myspace page. She planned this all out, just for her own defense. Every god damn thing she did was absolutely fucking premeditated to the fullest degree!!! No ifs and or buts!!! PERIOD!

[Dimple blossom]

I hope Maricopa County is filling her needle as full as they can get it! Sorry but I hate this bitch asshole so fucking much!

[Harlette]

Mi scusi to whoever posted the link to Travis's obit page, I'm too lazy to scroll and give you credit.

This was what Jodi wrote:



I know we've established that she loves to lie (diary, etc), but I agree that this is frickin' ridiculous.

There are a lot of you who've been through horrid abuse, so I'm wondering...is this something you would write? I get that every relationship has its good times (usually), but do you view your tormentors with the same goodwill? This is purely speculative, but if I almost lost my life and had to stab/slice/shoot a person, I don't think I'd write that shit. I don't think I would write anything.

"They just found you slumped over in the shower decomposed because I killed you, but I totally think you've changed my life for the better."

I FUCKING HATE HER.

do you think that maybe she finally got it that she was never gonna be mrs alexander so part of her great plan was for her to be the poor bereaved gf/widow after they found travis - since she thought she covered all her bases in her alibi - and that would be her new persona - poor sweet jodi who would carry the torch of his memory forever since - i am sure she would have explained - that she really was his true love and he would have told every one soon - so that every one would feel sorry for her and become the center of every one's attention and rush to her side to take care of her?

[Harlette]

that would explain all of her condolence posts and her tribute that she made to travis on her myspace - not thinking that all of travis' friends and family had figured her out and didn't like her

[Dimple blossom]

Why oh why can't the bitch just OWN UP to the fact she is an obsessed woman and murdered/slaughtered TA out of OBSESSION/JEALOUSY and complete rage. OWN it bitch, OWN it! Okay she just pisses me off to no end damn it.

[Dimple blossom]

do you think that maybe she finally got it that she was never gonna be mrs alexander so part of her great plan was for her to be the poor bereaved gf/widow after they found travis - since she thought she covered all her bases in her alibi - and that would be her new persona - poor sweet jodi who would carry the torch of his memory forever since - i am sure she would have explained - that she really was his true love and he would have told every one soon - so that every one would feel sorry for her and become the center of every one's attention and rush to her side to take care of her?

YES YES, you nailed it!!! Could NOT of said it better!!!!

[songbirdsong]

do you think that maybe she finally got it that she was never gonna be mrs alexander so part of her great plan was for her to be the poor bereaved gf/widow after they found travis - since she thought she covered all her bases in her alibi - and that would be her new persona - poor sweet jodi who would carry the torch of his memory forever since - i am sure she would have explained - that she really was his true love and he would have told every one soon - so that every one would feel sorry for her and become the center of every one's attention and rush to her side to take care of her?

Ugh.

Part of me thinks that if Martinez asks her about this fuckery, she'll play the martyr and be like, "Well, he had done such an awful, horrible thing but I know how much he meant to everyone else and I just didn't want to tarnish his memory in the eyes of the community."

At which point Martinez would whip out the forged pedophile letters and kick Jodi in the balls, much like in Idiocracy:

[Harlette]

Ugh.

Part of me thinks that if Martinez asks her about this fuckery, she'll play the martyr and be like, "Well, he had done such an awful, horrible thing but I know how much he meant to everyone else and I just didn't want to tarnish his memory in the eyes of the community."

At which point Martinez would whip out the forged pedophile letters and kick Jodi in the balls, much like in Idiocracy:

huh.... i wonder if they CAN use those letters against her??? though it would be a risk if any one heard the content - but then again idk - if they have undeniable proof they were forged it could look really bad

[Dimple blossom]

To me, there is nothing she (Jodi) nor her attorneys can do to help her in any way. Did they completely forget, Jodi, and Jodi alone, stabbed him, what, 29 times including a stab directly to his heart, slice his throat ear to ear almost decapitating him and then shooting him in the forehead????????????? Doesn't matter the order of slaughtering, she did it. PERIOD. I don't even know this family but all I want to see, witness, is a huge needle in her arm.

[Dimple blossom]

Like I said before, when I saw the 48 hours show for the very first time in 2008, I knew instantaneously she was full of shit and I saw right through her in a millisecond.

[Dimple blossom]

I pray the jury can too

[BeanJeano]

I can't quote on my phone but beanojeano are you saying him being a jerk and her being unstable gives her a pass to kill him? Because that's what it sounds like. I don't care if he was a jerk. I'm guessing he had no idea what her true character was. I highly doubt he thought she was capable of murder.

Not at all. Jodie killed Travis and she should pay for her crime. I am saying Travis should had not any contact with her once they broke up. He lead her on by having sex with her. He knew she was dangerous, he even told a few friends he was afraid of her. If that is true what he told his friends, he was playing with fire, just to get laid. It was not fair to Jodie and it was completely wrong. I would say it is wrong for anyone after a breakup to lead someone on just for sex.

I could almost bet my life on it, that if Travis completely ignored Jodie, no contact. He would be alive today and Jodie would had moved on. So i have to say he was a jerk for the way he used Jodie and to be murdered by Jodie. He is dead and she is facing a death sentence because he could not keep his penis in his pants.

[bermstalker]

Not at all. Jodie killed Travis and she should pay for her crime. I am saying Travis should had not any contact with her once they broke up. He lead her on by having sex with her. He knew she was dangerous, he even told a few friends he was afraid of her. If that is true what he told his friends, he was playing with fire, just to get laid. It was not fair to Jodie and it was completely wrong. I would say it is wrong for anyone after a breakup to lead someone on just for sex.

I could almost bet my life on it, that if Travis completely ignored Jodie, no contact. He would be alive today and Jodie would had moved on. So i have to say he was a jerk for the way he used Jodie and to be murdered by Jodie. He is dead and she is facing a death sentence because he could not keep his penis in his pants.

Bean, I think the defense is hoping that at least one juror believes the same thing as you posted.

This is just my 2 cents: I don't think I can believe anything Jodi says. I don't think you can trust her to describe their relationship with honesty, b/c the truth is, Jodi looked at the relationship a lot different than Travis did. She seen or believed what she wanted to believe.

I personally don't care if Travis smacked her in the face that day and called her a big 3-hole wonder Pollyanna skank. She OVERKILLED him. Why not just leave? By Arizona's own definition of the self-defense law-This is not it.
Now, I would have pity for Jodi IF...Travis beat her up, Jodi stabbed him once, then ran outside to call the police.
That's not what happened. Jodi overkilled him, tried to cover it up, got rid of evidence, then lied and left his body there for days. I can also say, there is evidence that she planned his murder beforehand.

It bothers me also that she got her freak on with Travis a couple of times, killed him brutally, then drove more miles to get her freak on with another guy. When I think of Jodi, I think "cold blooded murderer"
Just my 2 cents.

[bermstalker]

I don't understand the debate about Jodi's hair color.

In her saucer sized nipple porn pictures on Travis' bed....her pig tails are brown.

[IMHO]

Not at all. Jodie killed Travis and she should pay for her crime. I am saying Travis should had not any contact with her once they broke up. He lead her on by having sex with her. He knew she was dangerous, he even told a few friends he was afraid of her. If that is true what he told his friends, he was playing with fire, just to get laid. It was not fair to Jodie and it was completely wrong. I would say it is wrong for anyone after a breakup to lead someone on just for sex.

I could almost bet my life on it, that if Travis completely ignored Jodie, no contact. He would be alive today and Jodie would had moved on. So i have to say he was a jerk for the way he used Jodie and to be murdered by Jodie. He is dead and she is facing a death sentence because he could not keep his penis in his pants.

We are never going to know the true story, it will only ever be Jodi's version of events. For all we know he was a virgin before he met her and I personally think this was the case, I don't think her version of the early encounters with him are true. No one other than Jodi have given evidence to the suggest he was sexual in any way with them.

My view is he met Jodi who was sexually experienced and he was probably curious. She was temptation and he probably became a challenge to her. She has indicated that they were having oral sex right off the bat, her becoming a mormon was likely because she wanted to please him, I think she was in awe of him, and not a case of her being dominated by him.

I don't buy what she is saying and to make it credible someone else needs to give truthful evidence they had been sexually active with him, no takers yet.

They are both guilty in terms of using each other for sex, he has at one point said 'all he is to her is a dildo with a heartbeat'. It was a destructive relationship, he knew he was doing wrong, but the temptation was always there and lets be honest, if he had just tasted the forbidden fruit it is hard to let a good thing go.

Nothing is ever going to justify what Jodi did that day, her defence in the opening statement said 'Jodi had to make a split decision whether to live or die'. In that split decision making moment she found a knife and a gun handy and went into overkill mode in ever sense of the word before she resumed her life as if nothing had happened.

In her statement to the Police she said that Travis didn't have a gun.

I do agree with you JeanBeano that if Travis had of ignored her he would still be alive today, but they were a drug to each other, unfortunately Jodi's addiction had fatal consequences.

For the guys, if your ex who you used to have hot and steamy sex with was offering it to you on a plate, would you forgo it?