Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

[zeebee]

here is the photo, I don't see anything but some blue.
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-9153...46965925417366

I totally see Bigfoot.

[Crazy Lady]

I totally see Bigfoot.

Looks like a tie dyed shirt to me.

[M Joy]

here is the photo, I don't see anything but some blue.
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-9153...46965925417366

I believe you can see something - most likely Jodi but what she is doing, I don't think anyone can really tell for sure

[tiggrrl72077]

here is the photo, I don't see anything but some blue.
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-9153...46965925417366

It reminds me of the Rorschach Test. lol

[songbirdsong]

Jodi is ambidextrous. She's been shown in court writing with her left and her right hand.

Also, I am left handed but do a lot of things right handed. Like, cut with scissors, hold a blow dryer, use a camera. I could write with my right hand if needed, but it wouldn't be very neat or legible.

This, definitely. Dunno if it says anything about it in a report, but she's definitely been writing with both hands in court. Even if it wasn't her camera and she'd never used it before, she's all about the photography. I don't doubt she could do it.

He does not look hefty to me in the shower pics. There are pictures of him out there where he does look hefty, but I think he must have lost some weight. Total weight is not always indicative of how "fat" you are.

I imagine they asked the roommates if they saw any knives missing. Could also be a guy thing. My son knows all of the knives in our house. He enjoys sharpening them.

Right, and you also have to consider that he's (pardon the unflattering description) smushed down in there. It's not a flattering angle, even for someone with an average build.

[whackjob]

I read on one of the facebook pages, I think JVM's page that someone commented that they enlarged the photo of Travis in the shower to 30k pixels and they were able to see the refelction of Jody. They said they could see her flashing the camera and holding a gun in her right hand and also the color shirt she was wearing. Does anyone believe that all the photos taken of Travis in the shower were taken at gun point?

i think you're the bees kneesm mjoy but it makes me giggle with the people saying they could see it from enlarging a image that's a snapshot or screen capture or a picture. i don't see it. actually, i never bothered to look. see picture of picture thing. if we had the original file, maybe that would be another story.

[M Joy]

i think you're the bees kneesm mjoy but it makes me giggle with the people saying they could see it from enlarging a image that's a snapshot or screen capture or a picture. i don't see it. actually, i never bothered to look. see picture of picture thing. if we had the original file, maybe that would be another story.

lol. that wasn't me. Like I said I think there is something reflected but what is going on, I don't think anyone can really tell.

[MadameX]

I just wonder how the defense is going to call this self defense. If Jodi didn't get the knife from Travis' kitchen, then how did she have it available to get the upper hand when he "came at her"? We saw the shower pics, so we know it is highly unlikely that he had the knife and came after her. He was naked in the shower. So what is she trying to say? He came at me and I just happened to have a knife and gun in my purse to protect myself, just in case? We saw Travis moments before his death and it is clear there was no weapon in his possession. Why couldn't she just run out of there when the naked, sopping wet Travis rushed her and tried to harm her without a weapon? It makes no sense at all.

Also, regardless of the knife being from Travis' house or not, it shows her intent to kill him and blows the self defense theory out. Then it's just the hinge of 1st or 2nd degree murder. If he rushed her, like she claims, how does that allow her to run and get the knife and come back to kill him? We know he didn't follow her to the kitchen and back to the bathroom. So again, not self defense.

I have a theory on why they're trying self defense as opposed to fighting the charges altogether.

A couple days ago, I linked to a PDF regarding "lesser included offenses" in Arizona. In it, there was a case cited as an example where a guy broke into some lady's house, raped and murdered her. He was charged with first degree murder. Throughout his case, he admitted breaking into the house but denied any involvement in her death. He was found guilty.

He appealed on the grounds that the judge did not notify the jury they could rule on "lesser included offenses" (i.e. second degree murder). His appeal was denied because all throughout his trial, he had denied having anything to do with her death. Therefore, the judge was not required to allow the jury to consider a lesser offense.

My point is--based on previous case law in Arizona, as long as Jodi denied having any involvement in Travis' death, the judge would not be required to allow the jury to consider second degree murder or manslaughter. Her attorneys CLEARLY know the prosecutors have enough evidence to prove that she was involved. I think they made this clear to her and let her know that if she was involved, she had better come clean so that at least the jury could consider a lesser offense.

This is where I think the "self defense" thing came from. My opinion...

The PDF is here, if anyone wants to read it: http://apaac.az.gov/specialized-topi.../category/73-l (It's the one called "necessarily included distinguished" State v. Salazar, bottom of page 3)

[twins027]

here is the photo, I don't see anything but some blue.
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-9153...46965925417366

I had to stare at it for about ten mins (kinda like those ones that if you stare long enough something appears). I at first saw a skeleton. Now I think the skeleton is supposed to be the light blue shirt maybe? I can kinda make out a head shape and then what would be the dark jacket and arms. The lil flash of light could be the camera and it is dark around where the other hand "would" be. I definitely don't see a gun shape though.

[helloagain]

here is the photo, I don't see anything but some blue.
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-9153...46965925417366

Thought I saw something but then remembered her hair wasn't blonde anymore at the time of the killing so. I got nothin' too.

[twins027]

I had to stare at it for about ten mins (kinda like those ones that if you stare long enough something appears). I at first saw a skeleton. Now I think the skeleton is supposed to be the light blue shirt maybe? I can kinda make out a head shape and then what would be the dark jacket and arms. The lil flash of light could be the camera and it is dark around where the other hand "would" be. I definitely don't see a gun shape though.

I also see one of the robots from Real Steal though too. And the skeleton keeps popping up at me too

[MadameX]

By the way... that was my extremely non-legal way of explaining what I was reading.

Arizona Case Law for (and by) Dummies...

[helloagain]

Hopefully this works. We only have MS Paint at work, so I just outlined what, at first glance, I thought might be Jodi. Now, as a left hand-er I use a right mouse and trying to use the right mouse with MS Paint as a tool was not very easy. I feel like I see the feet, the right arm sticking out like it was holding a gun or weapon and the hair, but then as I said in a previous post, I remembered the hair was not blonde anymore. The light around it is maybe what I see that I think is blonde.



And no, I've never seen Jesus or Mary in my toast.

[MadameX]

Anyone else notice how there are several shots that seem like the main idea of the shot is to focus on body parts that were later the areas of attack? For normal pictures you have to ask yourself why there would be so many headless shots that focused in on just the back or the neck/upper chest area. It makes me wonder if she was 'preserving' the areas she already had in mind to attack.

TOTALLY noticed this. I was so creeped out when I saw the original photos because it seemed to me like she was mentally going over it in her mind while she was taking them...

[bermstalker]

M Joy posted this timestamp above, so I copied her post and added to it. I was curious about the time between each picture

I am editing this post. I got all the times wrong. Sorry everybody

5:22:24
5:22:36 (12 seconds)
5:22:54 (18 seconds)
5:23:00 (6 seconds)
5:23:24 (24 seconds)
5:23:30 ( 6 seconds)
5:24:30 (1 minute)
5:24:48 (18 seconds)
5:24:52 (4 seconds)
5:24:56 (4 seconds)
5:25:00 (4 seconds)
5:26:56 (1 minute 56 seconds)
5:27:12 (56 seconds)
5:27:18 (6 seconds)
5:27:28 (10 seconds)
5:28:54 (2 minutes 6 seconds)
5:29:12 (58 seconds)
5:29:20 (this is the full on face photo) ( 8 seconds)
5:30:30 (this is the final shower photo) (1 minute 10 seconds)
5:31:14 (this is the ceiling photo) (1 minute 24 seconds)
5:32:16 (this is the dragging photo with Jodi's leg) (1 minute 42 seconds)
5:33:32 (this is the baseboard photo with Travis's body barely showing)(1 minute 56 seconds)

Any times that are messed up...are all totally mine. I suck at math.

[helloagain]

If that's her, she's not going to be happy with how chunky this pic makes her look. I don't think she would be posting it on her MySpace to show how beautiful she is!

Yeah, she looks fun-house mirror-y!

[GlassHat]

Hopefully this works. We only have MS Paint at work, so I just outlined what, at first glance, I thought might be Jodi. Now, as a left hand-er I use a right mouse and trying to use the right mouse with MS Paint as a tool was not very easy. I feel like I see the feet, the right arm sticking out like it was holding a gun or weapon and the hair, but then as I said in a previous post, I remembered the hair was not blonde anymore. The light around it is maybe what I see that I think is blonde.



And no, I've never seen Jesus or Mary in my toast.

Just LOL to this. I really know nothing else to say to this.

[songbirdsong]

I started looking for a nice Jackie Chan meme for the whole Rorschach Magic Eye murder eyeball thing (P.S. Who's good with Photoshop? You could seriously eff with peoples' heads on those amateur crime blogs) but then I found this.



I guess maybe there was a knife block/set in the kitchen and that's what they're saying isn't missing a knife? We have one of those and then some mismatched ones in the drawer, so I don't know how the guys can say nothing was missing. I mean, come on, these guys don't strike me as extremely aware of their surroundings.

I think the point is: Jackie Chan.

[GlassHat]

I started looking for a nice Jackie Chan meme for the whole Rorschach Magic Eye murder eyeball thing (P.S. Who's good with Photoshop? You could seriously eff with peoples' heads on those amateur crime blogs) but then I found this.



I guess maybe there was a knife block/set in the kitchen and that's what they're saying isn't missing a knife? We have one of those and then some mismatched ones in the drawer, so I don't know how the guys can say nothing was missing. I mean, come on, these guys don't strike me as extremely aware of their surroundings.

I think the point is: Jackie Chan.

If this trial don't hurry up and get back in the courtroom we're all going to lose our minds.

[M Joy]

M Joy posted this timestamp above, so I copied her post and added to it. I was curious about the time between each picture

5:22:24
5:22:36 (12 seconds)
5:22:54 (18 seconds)
5:23:00 (6 seconds)
5:23:24 (24 seconds)
5:23:30 ( 6 seconds)
5:24:30 (1 minute)
5:24:48 (18 seconds)
5:24:52 (4 seconds)
5:24:56 (4 seconds)
5:25:00 (4 seconds)
5:26:56 (1 minute 56 seconds)
5:27:12 (56 seconds)
5:27:18 (6 seconds)
5:27:28 (10 seconds)
5:28:54 (2 minutes 6 seconds)
5:29:12 (58 seconds)
5:29:20 (this is the full on face photo) ( 8 seconds)
5:30:30 (this is the final shower photo) (1 minute 10 seconds)
5:31:14 (this is the ceiling photo) (1 minute 24 seconds)
5:32:16 (this is the dragging photo with Jodi's leg) (1 minute 42 seconds)
5:33:32 (this is the baseboard photo with Travis's body barely showing)(1 minute 56 seconds)

Any times that are messed up...are all totally mine. I suck at math.

I think the time between 5:32:16 and 5:33:32 would only be 1 minute, 16 seconds
also between 5:30:30 and 5:31:14 would be only 44 seconds

[andrea0121]

Since we're hypothesizing....Here is my supposed analyses of what they're seeing in the 3000000000000u000000x magnified eyeball.

[Justice11]

TOTALLY noticed this. I was so creeped out when I saw the original photos because it seemed to me like she was mentally going over it in her mind while she was taking them...

Yes, I noticed that too. Completely gives me the heebee-jeebies!

[bermstalker]

I think the time between 5:32:16 and 5:33:32 would only be 1 minute, 16 seconds
also between 5:30:30 and 5:31:14 would be only 44 seconds

Ugh, maybe I'm doing my computer calc wrong (and that is 99% possible) but I am getting 116 seconds for the first one you listed and 84 seconds for the second one.

[Crazy Lady]

Yes, I noticed that too. Completely gives me the heebee-jeebies!

It's almost like she was memorializing the parts of him she was going to attack. Spooky.

Based on the comment Travis made on his blog about finding a woman who wasn't a murderer, I wonder if he knew she was capable of extreme violence.

[M Joy]

Ugh, maybe I'm doing my computer calc wrong (and that is 99% possible) but I am getting 116 seconds for the first one you listed and 84 seconds for the second one.

5:30:30 - 5:31:30 would be 1 minute exactly. So you take away 16 seconds since the next photo was 5:31:14 = 44 seconds