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Thread: Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

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    12/18/14


    Geffner is back on the stand and Willmottt is still questioning him. (Geffner has a bad habit of giggling and Willmott has a terrible habit of uh, oh, uh... so this takes awhile)

    Willmott wants to know if Geffner's name has came up recently in an appeal. Geffner says Yes, it was from a case decades ago.
    Willmott- Did anyone say anything negative about your expertise?
    Geffner- No
    Willmott- were you asked to write an affidavit?
    Geffner- Yes but I was only given a week to write it
    Willmott- So the court said they couldn't use your affidavit correct?
    Geffner- Yes I told them I had limitations and could only use some records

    Then they go into detailed testimony about other cases. Geffner's clinic was sued because of an abused child. Willmont is on damage control. There was a sexual harrasment case, but it didn't involve Geffner. (his clinic sounds nice)

    On to the diary.
    11/07- Jodi in journal says Travis brought her a treat and she gave him a treat.
    Geffner is explaining how this is *basically* Travis abusing Jodi. Jodi was living by the Laws of Attraction.
    Travis was in full control. He abused his power in the relationship (horseshit)
    Jodi- Travis says if he popped the question I'd say yes in a heartbeat. He is very wrong. He would need to really court me, our marriage will need to be strong in the Gospel
    11/6/07- "I just don't see why this affects me so greatly.....(Geffner explains this shows depression)
    11/19/07- "I've cried all day and TA is worried about his grandmother. I feel overwhelmingly sad but I can't express this to him. I shouldn't be more sad than him. I have no one to talk too.
    I can't talk to my mom, sister, friends, Travis, or Bishop. Travis is tired of being my shoulder to lean on. I wish I could turn back the clock. I am a powerful creator, I must wield my power carefully, and always be vigilant and careful with what I am creating.

    The next day Jodi writes that she is happy. Geffner says this proves she is dissociation and how people that are traumatized act.

    12/4/07- Jodi is still hanging out with Travis. They hung out at the mall and Jodi dropped TA off at his grandmothers. When the grandmother fell asleep Jodi went over to her house and cuddled with Travis.

    During this time period TA is telling people bad things about Jodi

    Juan objects to relevance and they approach

    12/4/07- "I don't know where it comes from, I must be sick. I just want to die. I'm so overwhelmed. I'm striving for bigger things but I must fix my thinking.

    Geffner explains that Jodi was making a present for Travis' grandmother, but Travis wouldn't even introduce Jodi to grandma. Jodi is writing in her diary how low she feels and that Matt told her to get medicated. (LOL)

    10 minute recess

    Geffner says Jodi had severe depression and wanted to end her life.
    "I can not see any light at the end of the tunnel"

    Dec 8th, next day-Jodi says she needs to focus on being more Christ like. Travis is such a drag. His tires were slashed twice last week. Jodi says she's going to help Travis financially any way she can.

    Dec 9th- Travis was on a stake out trying to catch who slashed his tires. Jodi offered to loan him her stun gun.
    Jodi keeps saying she's not suppose to write negative things in her journal. She mentions Travis made deposits in their joint account. "Back down low again and I began to cry. I gave my notice to Amy. I've got to get myself right. Depression is a serious thing. Somedays I wish it was just simple to kill myself"

    Juan wants an approach when Geffner starts bringing up the text messages.

    1/9/08- Jodi went to Travis' and picked up the car. She says he asked her to marry him. She says he's crazy but it's tempting when he puts his hands on her. Much effort is required by me to fall out of love but I've done it before. There are countless reasons why he isn't married. Travis is to prideful and I just keep praising him.

    Jodi is saying she deposited around $700 dollars in Travis's account and another friend wanted $75.

    Juan objects to Willmott saying this was loan. Juan says they don't know if it was a loan or if Jodi was paying Travis back for loaning her money.

    They show the checks. Geffner says that Jodi wrote down that it was her loaning Travis money.

    1/21/08 Now we are at where Jodi says she catches Travis masturbating to a picture young boy in his underwear. Jodi has sympathy for Travis because she thinks he was abused sexually as a young boy

    1/22/08 Jodi says Travis asks for money and says he has an attraction to young girls so he sleeps with grown women to stop his urges. Then he body slams her and breaks her finger.

    Juan wants an approach after Willmott asks Geffner if Jodi would write in her diary about abuse instead of that "Nothing Noteworthy happened today" diary post.
    Jodi eludes to the negative things. She says "there are things just not right with that boy."

    Juan wants to approach

    Geffner- Jodi doesn't always write the direct things in her journal.
    "There are things about him that will never sit right with me."

    1/29/08- Travis needed money again for his mortgage. I gave him $200
    2/1/08- Travis is squeezing me dry financially and I can't go spend time with my friends. He said he wanted to get a gun and shoot himself and I know how that feels. I just spoke sweetly to him.

    Geffner says Travis is manipulating her. He's yelling and telling her to balance her checkbook and she wouldn't be overdrawing it. Travis is pulling her back in when she's breaking free and her depression is setting back in. Geffner says all this happened within a week. The getting hurt, loaning him money and so on. It's a viticious cycle

    2/3/08 text message Travis is apologizing to Jodi for calling her a "Fucking loser"


    Lunch

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    12/18/14 Part 2 cont...after lunch

    Geffner says it was important for him to read the text because it shows Power and Control. He says he did NOT do an assement on Travis.

    Juan wants to ask a few questions

    Juan-you never spoke to Travis about these text messages or even spoke to Travis Yes or No?
    Geffner- No
    Juan- You said he was manipulative with other women and his situation correct? What is that based on?
    Geffner- I used that word
    Juan- The defendant did not know about text messages of the money that may have been sent out correct?
    Geffner- She did not know
    Juan- But you are labeling what Travis's conduct was when you are calling him manipulative
    Geffner- long pause....I guess that's how that's interpreted

    Willmott back up
    Geffner says he questioned Jodi about Travis.
    2/25/08 Jodi is in Vegas and she said it was great to get away. says Travis wanted her to come over and it was hard to say no so she's driving over there but she stayed an extra day in Vegas. Jodi is talking about Travis being tender when they "went all the way" Travis wanted it and wanted to make it special. Mimi is probably the one for him and I'm happy for him. She doesn't need to know about our torrid love affair over the last 8 months. It's weird I'm not freaking out about this but it's good. I look forward to seeing how it works out for them.

    Geffner says that was Jodi's closure.
    2/29/08 Jodi writes Travis an email. There are times I'm overwhelmed about things to tell you. I haven't forgotten what I said over a year ago. No matter what happens we will have friendship. I sort of knew deep down you weren't the one. When I think of you I have radiating feelings of warmth. and I know it's unconditional love. you know love without conditions is an interesting thing. Our path is something to be cherished and remembered- I love you.
    Travis- that choked me up a little and I know it hasn't always been roses but I am grateful for the time we have had and the amazing experiences we have had together as well.
    Then Jodi called him. Geffner says this was a positive thing. Closure.

    March 1st-Jodi says Travis was violent to her. He backhanded her in the car when she said she was moving back to CA. In the journal she's heading over to Travis's house so they can split a chocolate chip frap.

    3/2/08 Jodi is asleep at Travis' house when he comes home from a date with Mimi Hall. This is when she has the three tender kisses with him. In the journal, she does not mention the slap.Geffner says that is common.

    3/4/08- Jodi is going brunette

    3/6/08 Jodi says it's been very hard to say goodbye.Travis called and asked if Jodi wanted to go with him to pick up his Prius.

    Jodi says Sky gives Travis a hard time over her so he can't take her to the executive ball. She says one day she will earn her own ticket and go with her husband and see Travis with Mimi Hall and they will all be happy

    3/30/08 Travis and I got in a fight and I drove over to his house. I banged on door and he yelled "what!" I opened it and ran right into his arms and said sorry. We cuddled

    The next text is Travis telling Jodi she is like a soap opera. She's ruins his day.
    April 1st, 08- Another physical incident happened on 4/1/08. She says Travis body slams her- get's on top of her and chokes her until she is unconscious

    Break

    Jodi wrote an email to Travis titled "Goodbye" I know now that I am making the right decision. I have enjoyed making love to the man I love but it wasn't under the right circumstances. We've both stretched it farther than it should have naturally gone, but intact it remains. This time away from each other will help us both. That is my prayer, and that is what i sincerely believe.

    Geffner says this is good news. Jodi is moving on. (again)

    Travis texts Jodi asking "Where are you?"
    Jodi asks "Where are you?"
    Travis tells Jodi to enjoy herself and she says you too
    Travis tells Jodi "Don't text me ever again until you have that information. You have the worst BS story......

    4/8/08 -Travis telling Jodi you are always full of drama. Bitter feeling are brewing inside of me for you. You better start paying me back and you need to look for a job. Travis was mad about her having him sign a drawing and leaving it at his house. He later apologizes for being upset

    Journal entry- I moved a week ago and landed a job right away. I have made new friends and I have a sharper focus now. A fog has lifted

    Text messages 4/19/08
    Jodi tells Travis "you hurt my feelings"
    Travis- " Jodi I stayed on the phone a long time. When I mentioned I had to go you got offended." Travis is telling Jodi she insulted his speaking skills and maybe he should insult her painting skills. Jodi says her feeling get hurt when Travis tells her to get to the point and she listens to him all the time. Travis says he doesn't have time to listen to Jodi's stories. Travis says he gives her all kinds of time and he needed one thing from her. He said he has given her a car, money and whole hell a lot of others things. Travis says he's done things for 2 hours for Jodi and didn't want to hang on the phone all day and Jodi got mad. Jodi says thank you for doing all those things for me

    In Jodi's journals in April and May Jodi is beginning to met other men and date. According to Jodi's journal Travis is coming to visit and they will go to Crater Lake. She calls Travis her kryptonite. She says Travis is hinting for sex and she doesn't know if this is a good thing for them.

    Gchat- Travis says" plenty of the fights are by me but when we fight and it is induced by you it's subtle"

    Geffner says this proves DV.
    Jodi says "my wit and my sexuality can be a curse"
    Travis "we are the same on that though for me its good for others probably not good"

    May 18, 08." Travis pushed back seeing me till June. I don't think he should come. I'm not attracted to him anymore and he will only want one thing. This kind of behavior got us no where. Telling him this is another thing because he get's his feeling hurt easily like me. I haven't told him about Ryan yet but there's not much to tell. He doesn't tell me about Mimi. Don't ask, don't tell is better anyway."

    Geffner says this is positive. Jodi's brain is trying to pull her back from making a bad decision.

    Recess

    Gchat- Travis is going off about Jodi being evil. and hacking into his facebook. Travis says Jodi stabbed him in the back. I loved someone that never existed. I know you got into my computer and erased a letter to Lisa. I know you slashed my tires. I know it. You never can tell the truth.

    Jodi then writes in her diary that Travis is being plain rude and she never slashed his tires.

    Geffner says Travis was being very degrading.
    Willmott- When Travis said "I'm nothing more than a dido with a heartbeat" was Jodi using Travis for sex?
    Geffner- Jodi was a sex object and she really just wanted to cuddle. She likes the sex and goes along with it
    Jodi says in journal she's excited about going to Utah and meeting Ryan. Journal- "Travis didn't seem to thrilled about my road trip. As far as I know he knows nothing of Ryan" J
    ournal- "At least Travis has found the one. That's more than I can say. We still care for each other. I have been ignoring my feelings that creep up but I'm distracting myself. Travis wanted me to come see him instead of going to Utah but I'm sticking with my plans. I gently declined and I can tell that he is bothered.

    Geffner is explaining that it's all Travis' fault.

    Court is finished for the day!

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    Is tonight the final of Sheriff Joe's '4th Avenue Jail Idol Contest?' Anyone think Jodi will repeat her triumph of last year and win the turkey dinner for herself and two cell-mates?" Will the video pop-up in court after New Year, or will some babe with a great soprano doing time for a DUI beat her for the top prize allowing Jodi to claim she was a victim of a police conspiracy? Will Nurmi and Wilmott appeal on the grounds that Jodi would have won if she had been allowed to sing in a closed session?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian 1 View Post
    Is tonight the final of Sheriff Joe's '4th Avenue Jail Idol Contest?' Anyone think Jodi will repeat her triumph of last year and win the turkey dinner for herself and two cell-mates?" Will the video pop-up in court after New Year, or will some babe with a great soprano doing time for a DUI beat her for the top prize allowing Jodi to claim she was a victim of a police conspiracy? Will Nurmi and Wilmott appeal on the grounds that Jodi would have won if she had been allowed to sing in a closed session?
    Isn't her ugly ass in 23 hr lockdown with NO privileges? She sung for her supper & won 2 years ago before she was convicted. Don't think we heard a peep of her last xmas time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schpadoinkle View Post
    Isn't her ugly ass in 23 hr lockdown with NO privileges? She sung for her supper & won 2 years ago before she was convicted. Don't think we heard a peep of her last xmas time.
    Thanks. You are right. It was two years ago. That was during the 'innocent victim of the Ninjas stage,' wasn't it? It's been going on for so long that I'm losing my sense of time. Jodi's doing to my brain what she's hoping to do with the Juror's. There's something seriously amiss with the System--or with how it's working.
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    It sounds like the media will be getting the transcripts of Jodi secret testimony after all. Twitter says she became upset with the ruling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marycontrary View Post
    It sounds like the media will be getting the transcripts of Jodi secret testimony after all. Twitter says she became upset with the ruling.
    There's some kind of a hearing with the media Lawyers at 1:30 today. So much 'fuckery' (thank you Faq), that it's hard to figure out what is going on. News of Supreme Court Rejection of Jodi's Appeal came through in afternoon during testimony of defense witness "John Smith" (an alias--he refused to give his real name), a self-titled 'Data Scientist,' trying to prove porno on Travis's computer. He also refused to testify if courtroom camera was filming, so Judge ordered it removed!!!

    The news of the rejected appeal came through on twitter and quickly spread in quiet courtroom!! Everybody was uplifted and it was immediately felt in the room. Martinez was grinning from ear to ear. Jodi wasn't. Tough!
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    John Smith has no degree and has never testified on court before. He was contacted on Jan 2 and asked to testify. He claims spybot search and destroy is a tool used by people to hide their browser history. Jaun asked if it was a tool used to clean a slow computer. He replies it could be, but its main purpose is hiding web history. He insists the porn links found were actual searches for porn typed into the browser. Juan asked him to look at other events on the computer and give similar details and he could not do so.

    Spybot is a popular malware removal tool. It doesn't pick and choose what files it deletes. It looks for files associated with known malware, viruses and rootkits. It was testified earlier than TA had numerous cleaners and antivirus running on his computer. John Smith testified yesterday that some of these were malware posing as antivirus and anti-malware software.

    They also found TA's lost journals. He begins a new journal complaining about his missing journals and says that Jodi probably stole them. It sounds like they were discovered with her journals and Beth Karas has compared both journals on the days leading up to his death. Travis writes that he met a cute girl in church, met her again somewhere else and they friended each other on facebook and were going to hang out together. Jodi downplays their huge fight by saying she logged into TA's facebook account, but that had been over a week prior and Travis asked her not to do it again. Beth Karas thinks that Jodi read his journal and found TA was interested in another girl, so she logged into his facebook and posted something that would embarrass or show TA in a bad light. Maybe even posting something nasty to the new girl Which was the provocation of the huge fight they had. The day that her grandparents home was broken into was the day his computer became infected and the web searches began.

    It's so hard to get a complete story via twitter. I wish the media would actually report the events of the day in article form.

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    Quick response, Mary. There's a lot in your post and I'm too rushed to read it right now. I sure will later. Media folks are too lazy to do any thoughtful or thorough reporting. They're in it for fifteen secondbytes or three paragraphs of typing.

    When approaching the subject of 'cleaner programs' during his questioning of John Smith, Nurmi prefaces his first question with, "Now! Let's see what Mr. Alexander was up to?" Snarkiness personified! He also tossed in a Jekyll and Hyde reference into the mix.
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    Will the Jodi Arias sentencing retrial be over by Monday?

    http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/...ling/21526215/

    On Friday, her defense attorney, Kirk Nurmi, made a last-ditch effort to have the prosecution's intent to seek the death penalty thrown out, his motion alleging prosecutorial misconduct and inability to get witnesses to testify on Arias' behalf because of a court ruling forbidding testimony in a closed courtroom.

    Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Sherry Stephens said that she would rule by Monday.

    Arias has already been found guilty of first-degree murder for killing her lover, Travis Alexander, who was found dead in the shower of his Mesa home in June 2008, with a bullet in his head, nearly 30 stab wounds and a slit throat.

    Her first trial took place in 2013, but the jury was unable to reach a unanimous verdict as to whether she should be sentenced to life or death.

    A second jury was seated in September, and Nurmi and his co-counsel, Jennifer Willmott, have been trying to present "mitigation" witnesses who might convince the jury to spare Arias' life. If death is taken off the table because of the pending motion, Arias must be sentenced to life in prison and there would be no need to continue the current proceedings.

    Nurmi's argument rests largely on how police and prosecutors handled a computer belonging to Alexander that was taken into evidence at the crime scene. And he claimed that they knowingly misrepresented the content of the computer hard drive and failed to turn over copies they had made of it.

    ?While the computer was in custody of Mesa police, it was turned on and off twice without taking proper precautions for handling evidence, which resulted in files being accidentally altered or deleted from the hard drive.

    ?During Arias' 2013 guilt-or-innocence trial, and during the present sentencing retrial, Mesa police officers testified under oath that the computer was free of pornography and computer viruses. Prosecutor Juan Martinez used that testimony to refute Arias' assertions that Alexander was sexually attracted to young boys and he branded her a liar for saying the porn and viruses were there.

    Mesa police have since admitted that the computer did have significant amounts of pornography and viruses despite the earlier testimony by the trial's case agent and a police forensic expert.

    "Under what law would the state be allowed to go forward and seek the death penalty based on false testimony?" Nurmi asked.

    ?Just last month, Nurmi learned that Mesa police had made a mirror image of the computer's hard drive in 2008, before some of the alterations took place, but had never provided it to the defense. The prosecution is legally and ethically obligated to turn over evidence, especially if it may cast a more favorable light on the defendant.

    "The state has confessed to illegal behavior," Nurmi said. "The only option is to dismiss death against Ms. Arias."

    Martinez claimed that there was no harm done to Arias' case. And he said that there was no way to prove who had actually viewed the pornography on what he described as a "communal computer."

    But Nurmi's computer experts said repeatedly in recent hearings that the pornography would be hard to miss, and that the computer had an unusual number of "cleaning programs" that had likely been installed by Alexander to mask or erase the porn-viewing history.

    Eventually the withheld evidence will derail any death sentence on appeal if Stephens does not dismiss it, Nurmi said.

    "She will never be executed," he said.

    In November, Stephens granted Arias' defense motion to allow witnesses to testify out of sight of the press and public. The Arizona Republic, 12 News and other media outlets sued for access and won in the Arizona Court of Appeals. Earlier this week, the Arizona Supreme Court refused to postpone that ruling while it was being appealed.

    On Thursday, Stephens ordered the release of transcripts of the two closed-trial days with a witness who turned out to be Arias herself. Those transcripts are expected to be made public next week.

    But Nurmi said in Friday's hearing that 14 of Arias' mitigation witnesses will refuse to testify if they have to do so in public.

    Martinez countered that the witnesses could be subpoenaed and forced to testify, or that they could have been interviewed on video or prepared affidavits.

    Nurmi claimed that Arias has been denied her right to a fair trial.

    "It's game over," he said. "She cannot present a good defense."

    Stephens took the matter under advisement.

    If she rules against Arias, trial will resume Monday.

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    It's pretty disappointing that Mesa PD's testimony about porn and viruses was untrue. Why would they risk that?

    The witnesses refusing to testify, including JA, are just manipulations. Her weird friend and DB both went on shows after their last performance for the court and now they are camera shy?

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    Finally some video footage of this trial http://www.fox10phoenix.com/story/27...-off-the-table

    Does anyone know where to get the full footage of the hearing today?

    This is huge. I really think she will dismiss it. Nurmi's right, with this new porn evidence, it'll just be dismissed on appeal.

    Judge Stephens should just sentence her to life and release the footage already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poisonforfairy View Post
    Finally some video footage of this trial http://www.fox10phoenix.com/story/27...-off-the-table

    Does anyone know where to get the full footage of the hearing today?

    This is huge. I really think she will dismiss it. Nurmi's right, with this new porn evidence, it'll just be dismissed on appeal.

    Judge Stephens should just sentence her to life and release the footage already.
    Bet you're wrong. The only thing proven was that TA had a virus on his laptop and that the previous DT turned on the laptop without taking precautions. Neither rise to the level of prosecutorial misconduct, and furthermore it's immaterial because nothing uncovered supports her claim of self-defense.

    A soundbite of Nurmi saying it's "game over" just doesn't make it so. Rest assured, the show goes on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poisonforfairy View Post
    Finally some video footage of this trial http://www.fox10phoenix.com/story/27...-off-the-table

    Does anyone know where to get the full footage of the hearing today?

    This is huge. I really think she will dismiss it. Nurmi's right, with this new porn evidence, it'll just be dismissed on appeal.

    Judge Stephens should just sentence her to life and release the footage already.
    You make it sound as if JSS has a decisive bone in her body
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    Just as I suspected. A ring of elderly pedophiles.
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    Fucking piece of shit, fucking scum, internet ass holes. fucking ingrate no life having fat ass. you have no fucking clue at whats going on fuck tard shit for brains.

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    Juan lied.

    It's time to start accepting it.

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    The transcripts of Jodi's secret testimony have been released:

    http://www.abc15.com/news/region-pho...-arias-retrial
    "...Jeffrey Dahmer... actually confessed and accepted his punishment. Had real remorse for the sick things he did. It's pretty bad when Jeffrey Dahmer is a better person than you are." ~Justice11 (re: Jodi Arias)

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeebee View Post
    The transcripts of Jodi's secret testimony have been released:

    http://www.abc15.com/news/region-pho...-arias-retrial
    Bunch of verbal diarrhea there. I'm trying to make it through the first 144 pages and it's all Willmott asking Jodi how she felt about killing Travis and then we go into her unhappy childhood and the wooden spoon. I haven't got to Doggie Boy yet but I'm sure it's in there......


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    I find it hilarious that YOU are acting all high and mighty toward us when you're posting on here just like anyone else and in addition, defending a murderer. A child murderer, at that. Go fuck a Popsicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faq_q View Post
    Bunch of verbal diarrhea there. I'm trying to make it through the first 144 pages and it's all Willmott asking Jodi how she felt about killing Travis and then we go into her unhappy childhood and the wooden spoon. I haven't got to Doggie Boy yet but I'm sure it's in there......
    Faq! When are you gonna' come down to that courthouse? It's mind numbing. What goes on isn't being reported; not anywhere near to it. Media types are grubbling with the minutiae and insightful reporting isn't happening. I'm too weary at the end of the day to post a recap. The entire defense strategy is to build a record for an appeal. The alleged 'porno on the computer' crap is a red herring, yet media keeps reporting it as though it will prove decisive.

    The added ingredient to the Arias 'secret testimony' is that her Counsel are trying to structure it to demonstrate her remorse and drag the jury into the pity party. Remember this. "The murdered have no secrets." We might add, "Their murderers are not entitled to possess any of their own." At least not if they are truly remorseful! But Jodi's not giving anything up! (Where's the gun and the knife?) Defense is counting on just one member of the Jury to fall for Arias's act. Under the inept oversight of the presiding Judge, the whole process of the trial is so chaotic, that it may work.
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    Just to let everybody know....well those that still care.

    I've quit doing the Jodi recaps. I've been busy and really who has has time for that?

    I'm just having a hard time caring about any of this anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post
    Just to let everybody know....well those that still care.

    I've quit doing the Jodi recaps. I've been busy and really who has has time for that?

    I'm just having a hard time caring about any of this anymore.
    You have performed Yeoman's service for this group Berm. I don't blame you for turning away. They've worn us down. The whole system has been separated from it's foundations. Who cares about Honor, Order, the sanctity of human life anymore? Who understands it?

    Maybe someone will write the book. It has not yet been explained why this horror captured the attention of the Nation.
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    It's not like there is anything.new and spectacular going on. Same Old Jodi, Same Old Nurmi, Same Old Bullshit. After this many years, we know how the song goes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by queenaevadamthng View Post
    It's not like there is anything.new and spectacular going on. Same Old Jodi, Same Old Nurmi, Same Old Bullshit. After this many years, we know how the song goes.
    Let's see if I can get this right? It was a moment in the courtroom on Monday afternoon, (I was there) when supremely irritating Defense Counsel Wilmott paused in her trivial questioning of Detective Flores about whether or not it was acceptable crime scene procedure on June 9, 2008, (anyways, the day Alexander's dead body was discovered) for Flores, the lead Mesa Police Service/Department Iinvestigator, to touch the end of his pen to a key on the computer on the shelf of Alexander's home office and 'awaken' it from it's 'sleeping' state.. Somewhere around about that sequence of questions in that chaotic process that dominates that courtroom, Maricopa County Deputy Prosecutor Martinez was given his turn to ask some questions of his own. The Jury was in the room at the time. Martinez prefaced his questions by first pointing towards Arias and stating, "She is the person who, stabbed, shot and slaughtered Mr. Alexander." Martinez is trying mightily to keep the Jury focused on what Arias did to Alexander. That statement passed almost without notice. Even though Arias has been convicted of First Degree Murder, she is still referred ro as Alexander's 'killer;' and never as his 'murderer:' which is what she is and has been proven to be by the Jury that convicted her back in May, 2013. It appears that it is not polite to mention that during this phase of the trial.

    Here's a bizarre little side note from the courtroom that happened on the afternoon of Monday, Jan 12. It was just after the lunch break but a few minutes before court was formally convened. Spectators were settling into the public seating area which is on the side of the aisle behind the Arias family and friends who occupy the front row of seats. (The seats behind the Alexander family--on the opposite side of the aisle--are 'reserved' for the "media.") Anyways, one of the courtroom 'regulars' on the Arias side--but an Alexander supporter-- let play a video on her device that emitted a sound of an animal in great distress. People were startled and started to chuckle nervously as they looked around for the source of the 'sound.' Jodi's ever present and faithful Mom, sitting in the front row, reacting to the weird noise like everybody else and perhaps trying to connect in a friendly way to the people around her, (who were also reacting), she (Jodi's Mom) turned around, smiled at the people behind her--not friends of her daughter-- and jokingly exclaimed, "Is someone being killed back there?" Bad choice of words! Poor woman! This is Jodi's demon with a wooden spoon, etc., etc., who's just trying to be part of what is going on around her. With a daughter like that .................? Jodi ruins everything!!!
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    Lmao!!! Man sounds like she replaced her regular courtroom snacks with a big ole mouth full of foot. Poor Jodi couldn't help but turn out retarded.


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    Did you know that Beth Karas has a great site where she reports in videos on the trial and answers questions? In addition, she has published the eight volumes of the journal Arias kept in the months before she murdered Travis. The documents also include 18 pages written by him. The journals, which have been seen by one reporter in the past but never published in their entirety, suggests what led to a huge argument between Arias and Alexander just before she slashed his throat and stabbed and shot him, Beth Karas said. Travis writes about flirting with another woman on Facebook, while Arias writes about hacking into his Facebook account."

    Her site is www. KarasOnCrime. I am glued to it! VERY worthwhile to subscribe to it and she'll soon be expanding it to include discussions of many more current crimes.

    Love it!

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