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    Hahahhaaa I just snarfed because I didn't see the very beginning of that gif and when I did it seemed very you ron! ❤❤

    That head maneuver tho lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash bitchy blonde View Post
    Not to be a butt or anything lol. It what does that video have to do with this case?
    Am I missing something?

    Did anyone read what Shaun king said online about this whole thing?
    Shaun or amari king? I think Shaun.

    Anyways he said he wasn't going to go off the rails about it because the people who did the crime are in jail. He said that justice was being served and that's what's supposed to happen.
    But then he says that's the difference between whites and blacks.
    Blacks are taken in and charged wayyyy faster than whites.

    I'm on my phone and kinda loopy. I just worked
    13 hrs and didn't sleep worth crap last night.

    I'll try to find it but it was a really good and interesting read.
    I read it.
    I actually don't think they attacked this kid because he's white, I just think they targeted him because he was an easy target AKA mentally challenged.

    Here's what Shaun King said
    In Chicago, at least four young black men and women did something truly awful. On a damn Facebook Live video made public Wednesday, they allegedly kidnapped a mentally challenged white man, beat him, humiliated him, cut his hair, and yelled ?f--k Donald Trump? and ?f--k white people? while filming it for the world to see.

    I just arrived back in America this morning after a week away and just watched the video moments ago. It?s awful. I have deep empathy for the victim. Twenty years ago, a racist mob of young white men beat me so badly that I missed 18 months of high school recovering from three spinal surgeries and fractures to my face and ribs.

    I hate violence. Nearly 100 people are killed with guns per day in this country. Every 98 seconds someone is sexually assaulted in this country. Hate crimes are on the rise from coast to coast. Our incoming President of the United States admitted that he sexually assaults women. Women all over the country came forward to allegedly confirm it. His first wife, in a sworn deposition, said that he raped and brutally assaulted her. Ivana Trump later said she didn?t want the allegation to be considered in a literal or criminal sense.

    This country is sick.
    However, I see thousands of white folk online asking me why I?m not speaking out about it.

    Beyond the fact that I literally just got back in the country a few hours ago with my wife and five kids, my answer is simple. As soon as I clicked on the first official story about the incident, I saw that four people had already been arrested for it. If more people were involved, whether it was two more black folk or 20, guess what, they?ll be charged and arrested, and convicted, and sentenced, and jailed for it as well. We will see their mugshots and videos of them walking into court with jail clothes any minute now. That?s how justice works in America.

    This country does not need me to speak out on crimes committed by black folk because nobody in this country is held more responsible for the crimes they commit, and even the crimes they don?t commit, than black folk in America. Right now, young black men in America are incarcerated at a rate higher than South Africans were at the height of Apartheid.

    I speak out on injustice. What happened to this man in Chicago was terrible. It was criminal. I hate it, but guess what ? justice was swift. It was miraculously swift.

    Justice is always swift and easy when black folk mess up, but you know who?s not in jail right now? George Zimmerman.

    You know who?s not in jail right now? The officers who fired 41 shots at and killed Amadou Diallo on the doorstep of his Bronx home.

    You know who?s not in jail right now? The officers who killed Eric Garner and Rekia Boyd.
    You know who?s not in jail? The men who murdered Emmett Till.
    Neither are the two white men who recently lured a mentally challenged black student into a locker room and rammed a hanger up his rectum.

    We march for them. We protest for them. I write about them and Facebook and tweet about them ? because justice has not been served in those cases. It almost never is.

    Just Tuesday, a video surfaced of a police officer in a North Carolina high school slamming a petite 15-year-old black girl so hard on her head that he gave her a concussion.

    Do you think he?s in jail? Nah. He?s on paid leave.
    That?s always the story. These are the people and families I spend my limited time advocating for.

    So no, I won?t be writing angry tweets about what these folk did in Chicago. They are already in jail. They will be punished, I am sure, to the fullest extent of the law, but I?ve written about case after case after case of drug offenses and incidents of sexual assault and even murders committed by white folk where the system gave them a helping hand. The Stanford swimmer, Brock Turner, who was caught in the act of raping a woman, but spent a summer in jail for it instead of the 10 to 20 years he deserved, comes to mind.

    Black folk and white folk both use and sell drugs at almost identical rates, with the rates for whites actually being slightly higher in both categories, but African-Americans are sent to prison at four to 10 times the rates of whites for various drug offenses.

    Black folk are held super-responsible for every mistake and criminal offense made. We rarely have to march for justice in our communities. American prisons are full of black folk who are being held responsible for every mistake they?ve ever made.

    I have a childhood friend in prison right now, a good man, doing 10 hard years in prison for selling weed. He was a full time barber, a father, who sold weed on the side, but the system had no mercy on him whatsoever.

    Now I actually see thousands of other whites saying I caused this assault. Of course I reject that foolishness altogether. What?s most disturbing is that I hardly see many whites who are particularly angry about the crime speaking sympathetically about the victim. They are mainly using it to advance their racist agenda and demonize random black folk who had nothing to do with such a thing. Furthermore, I have routinely seen tens of thousands of African-Americans standing up and fighting and protesting for white victims of police brutality and toxic masculinity. The Alt-Right Movement does not care about violence in this country. Thousands of whites murder people every year, but you?d be hard pressed to find a protest or march headed by their movement on white on white crime.

    As I type, the top trending topic in the country is now #BLMKidnapping. BLM stands for Black Lives Matter. The people in the video never even suggested such a thing. The Black Lives Matter Movement has never advocated such a thing. I have never advocated such a thing.

    Chicago officials said Thursday that the victim was attacked because of his mental disability, not because he?s white.

    What we are witnessing here is that fact that when particular African-Americans commit a crime, many whites use the crime to cast aspersions and stereotype all black folk. It?s a ridiculous double standard rooted in racism and oppression.

    Human beings do ugly stuff. I see it all over the world. Sometimes we learn what motivates people to be vicious, sometimes we don?t. I can think of a lot of people throughout history who this ugly crime in Chicago could be inspired by, but it damn sure isn?t me or the Black Lives Matter Movement.

    I have never once heard one person in this movement mock the disabled. You know who I did see and hear mocking the disabled? Donald Trump. You know I did hear openly advocating violence from the microphone at his rallies last year? Donald Trump. He has drastically lowered the standard of decency for this country to a level that I have never seen before.

    I?ll close with this final thought.

    Yes, Dr. King?s words are true ? ?Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere,? but what we have right now is a system that clearly applies justice differently depending on three factors: the color of your skin, your zip code, and your bank account. I am glad the people who assaulted this young man were swiftly arrested. That?s how justice should work for all of us. But you and I both know that swift justice in this country primarily happens when black folk commit crimes.

    This young man doesn?t need hashtags blaming me or a movement, he needs compassion and counseling. He also doesn?t need me advocating for justice. It will soon drop like Thor?s hammer without my help.
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2935825

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    I think it's a little from column a and a little from column b here. I think it was a group of kids who wanted to torture someone and they are angry with life, aka white people. They chose a mentally disabled kid because he was an easy target. I'm not so sure they would have done the same to a black target. They certainly claimed it was racially motivated. When all else fails, I usually take words at face value. We see this a lot. They are evil little shits who get an idea in their mind and target a specific person or type of person to justify it. Ultimately, I think they just wanted to cause harm and they picked a target they hated most.

    That or they just started shouting that stuff because they were in a frenzy, but if that was the case, they probably held those beliefs deep down for them to come out that way.

    Believe it or not, there are some people out there who hate hate hate white people.

    It's not a big injustice or a war on white people. Shaun king has it exactly right. There is no outrage because because justice was swift, as it always is when dealing with people of color. The reaction from the justice system is exactly opposite of what we see when cops kill, or any white person, for that matter. The system actually worked the way it was supposed to in this case.
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    Yes Ani!

    I agree and well said.

    Any word on how the victim is doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by animosity View Post
    Uh, ok. Freud has nothing to do with it, but you do you.
    Actually i hope it was because he's white at least I can kind of wrap my head around that. But a little disabled kid, that's just being an asshole.
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    Moderator here, please don't just post unrelated videos because they're from the same county or whatever without some explanation or clarification, thanks.

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    I have an (irrational?) hatred of Tesfaye's mugshot. I'm not the punching type, but he looks very punchable there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by songbirdsong View Post
    I have an (irrational?) hatred of Tesfaye's mugshot. I'm not the punching type, but he looks very punchable there.
    I'm on board with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
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    Hey! I'm an equal opportunity hater. I don't care what color they are, they're complete trash.
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    give me a break Ron. These asshole kids did some fucked up shit, and I'm going to call them out on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    give me a break Ron. These asshole kids did some fucked up shit, and I'm going to call them out on it.
    Agree. This is not about race but the fact they abused a mentally handicapped man who could not defend himself.

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    Um, I'm going out on a limb here, but I don't think Ron was posting that for anyone here. The way I took that post is that it's similar to how I feel everytime there is a mass shooting or bombing... I think to myself, "self, I hope to God it was an angry white dude because if it's not, it's going to be a justification for hatred in the minds of assholes."

    There are dicks that do something terrible everywhere, but only white people enjoy the individuality of their actions.
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    Yeah I'm sorry but we can't discuss this case without acknowledging that it's definitely being blown up by the far right to support their whole WHITE PEOPLE ARE BEING BEATEN UP BY DARKIES THEY'RE SO SAVAGE claims. Look at the news and see how slanted the reporting is by race compared to actual statistics. White people killing white people never makes the news unless it's mental illness. Case in point, the white kids who sodomized a black mentally handicapped kid while screaming racial slurs at him that I posted earlier in this thread, who are not going to do any time. That story was barely news when it happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    Yeah I'm sorry but we can't discuss this case without acknowledging that it's definitely being blown up by the far right to support their whole WHITE PEOPLE ARE BEING BEATEN UP BY DARKIES THEY'RE SO SAVAGE claims. Look at the news and see how slanted the reporting is by race compared to actual statistics. White people killing white people never makes the news unless it's mental illness. Case in point, the white kids who sodomized a black mentally handicapped kid while screaming racial slurs at him that I posted earlier in this thread, who are not going to do any time. That story was barely news when it happened.
    Oh quit. They did that because he was handicapped, not because he was black. Thinking otherwise is just race-baiting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    Yeah I'm sorry but we can't discuss this case without acknowledging that it's definitely being blown up by the far right to support their whole WHITE PEOPLE ARE BEING BEATEN UP BY DARKIES THEY'RE SO SAVAGE claims. Look at the news and see how slanted the reporting is by race compared to actual statistics. White people killing white people never makes the news unless it's mental illness. Case in point, the white kids who sodomized a black mentally handicapped kid while screaming racial slurs at him that I posted earlier in this thread, who are not going to do any time. That story was barely news when it happened.
    I agree. I was just countering his meme in a humorous way. I'm sure that by now Ron is well aware that I'm a complete racist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    Yeah I'm sorry but we can't discuss this case without acknowledging that it's definitely being blown up by the far right to support their whole WHITE PEOPLE ARE BEING BEATEN UP BY DARKIES THEY'RE SO SAVAGE claims. Look at the news and see how slanted the reporting is by race compared to actual statistics. White people killing white people never makes the news unless it's mental illness. Case in point, the white kids who sodomized a black mentally handicapped kid while screaming racial slurs at him that I posted earlier in this thread, who are not going to do any time. That story was barely news when it happened.
    Maybe its got to do with the fact that racial tensions are extremely high in Chicago, as they always have been, and most people have never heard of Dietrich, IA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by animosity View Post
    Oh quit. They did that because he was handicapped, not because he was black. Thinking otherwise is just race-baiting.
    Yeah when they were calling him an n word and all you know that's cos some of their best friends are n words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puke View Post
    Maybe its got to do with the fact that racial tensions are extremely high in Chicago, as they always have been, and most people have never heard of Dietrich, IA.
    It has to do with the fact that this fits the current narrative white middle america is trying to claim, it 'supports' that minorities are 'savage thugs'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    Yeah when they were calling him an n word and all you know that's cos some of their best friends are n words.
    BUT HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHEN WE CAN USE THAT WORD?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    It has to do with the fact that this fits the current narrative white middle america is trying to claim, it 'supports' that minorities are 'savage thugs'.
    Well yeah, sadly that's nothing new, but these four were calling him honky and Trump supporter. So obviously race was somewhat involved.
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    I think this story just proves that any color can be racist.

    BUT when you have black kids beating a white person- justice is swift. The suspects are arrested and get no bail. It makes the news. Even the president has to make a statement condemning it.

    When a white person beats a black kid- we must wait until all the evidence comes out. They're given bail. If there is any news coverage of it, it's all skewed. If the president makes any statement about it, he's bashed for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    Hey! I'm an equal opportunity hater. I don't care what color they are, they're complete trash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by animosity View Post
    Um, I'm going out on a limb here, but I don't think Ron was posting that for anyone here. The way I took that post is that it's similar to how I feel everytime there is a mass shooting or bombing... I think to myself, "self, I hope to God it was an angry white dude because if it's not, it's going to be a justification for hatred in the minds of assholes."

    There are dicks that do something terrible everywhere, but only white people enjoy the individuality of their actions.
    Seemed obvious to me. Why the fuck did some folks that that shit personally?

    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    Yeah I'm sorry but we can't discuss this case without acknowledging that it's definitely being blown up by the far right to support their whole WHITE PEOPLE ARE BEING BEATEN UP BY DARKIES THEY'RE SO SAVAGE claims. Look at the news and see how slanted the reporting is by race compared to actual statistics. White people killing white people never makes the news unless it's mental illness. Case in point, the white kids who sodomized a black mentally handicapped kid while screaming racial slurs at him that I posted earlier in this thread, who are not going to do any time. That story was barely news when it happened.
    You had me at hello.
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