In a town I used to live in a kid from my high school and some of his friends went to this house they thought was abandoned. They had never seen anyone in or around the house, the house had busted windows and no locks on the door and the snow was never plowed or the grass ever cut and the people in town thought it was abandoned as well. Well they went in there to drink and be merry and there was a person living there, a very drunk person who shot the kid and killed him. Nothing happened to the guy that shot him because they kid broke into his house so it was justified.
We actually have the article. It doesn't say that the guy who shot him was a drunk fish and they had to condemn the house. http://mydeathspace.com/article/2007..._was_a_burglar
I live in Texas, so I obviously would have shot him.
I never try anything, I just do it. Wanna try me?
Unless we are in the bedroom and the mask is leather you are getting shot in my house for running around in a mask.
ron_nyc: I don't like the black ones much.
Maybe the kid didn't see the gun. Nighttime + ski mask = crap visibility
But I get what you're saying. Still, Dad doesn't seem like the vigilante-zimmerman type who just begs for a chance to lay down the law. He was probably scared shitless that his sister was minutes away from getting knifed and was jumpy as hell. So yes, I could see him pulling the trigger not necessarily because he thought his life was in immediate danger/he was shooting to kill, but without really meaning to -- maybe he just wanted to try and scare the intruder with no intention of firing it. He panicked and ended up firing. He isn't a villain.
The rushing at him thing does seem strange, I agree. Did it really happen that way or did he just get confused in the panic? And yes, I do think there's a possibility that he overstated the threat in his statement trying to justify it in his mind because he was so devastated that he had taken another person's life. If he is lying, he should be charged accordingly.
Sad.
Ron, I've done knife vs gun training, and you'd be surprised how many times the knife wins before someone can get a shot off. For us, deadly force is authorized when someone brandishing a knife gets within 21 feet of you, but it really should be at least 35 ft.
Whatever, I would have shot the kid too.
The dad obviously felt threatened. There was something not right with this kid. My kids are adventurous and whatever but they dont run around with knives and masks.
Im only sorry for the dad that will live with this guilt for the rest of his life.
whoa, whoa. I'm sure the dad isn't saying fuck the kid's feelings. I feel bad for everyone involved. Traumatized dad, terrified aunt, fucked up kid.
I never said the dad feels 'oh fuck this kid'. I believe he is traumatized as hell, just like the aunt but I still dont feel sorry for the kid.
Ron, what would you do if some guy came at you with a knife and was masked? Stand there? Take the beating/kniving?
I know you are just going to say that it's BS that no one knows if the kid charged him or not but c'mon now......If the kid wasnt up to no good, then there wouldnt be a dead kid killed accidentally by his father.
Personally, I don't carry a gun on me so if someone came at me with a weapon, Im fucked. BUT if my doors on my house are locked and someone comes thru there and I feel threatened, Im grabbing a gun or a bat.
Depending on his size (and what's available as a weapon), I'd either run at him or run away.
I don't understand why I have to either "stand there" or "ask him about his day" or whatever you people always assume, just because I don't want to shoot him dead.
And a lot of people talking all this shit have never shot anyone anyway.
it's not like shooting a target you wannabe sociopaths.
You can't be sure we never shot anyone.
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