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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewitchingstorm View Post
    He has excellent legal representation, so this is not surprising.
    I dont feel like reading back, who is his attorney?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    I dont feel like reading back, who is his attorney?
    Husband and wife, Karen Friedman Agnifilo and Marc Agnifilo. They are not overly famous, but well known for winning cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewitchingstorm View Post
    Husband and wife, Karen Friedman Agnifilo and Marc Agnifilo. They are not overly famous, but well known for winning cases.
    Did he represent Diddy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewitchingstorm View Post
    He has excellent legal representation, so this is not surprising.
    It's a simple case of as long as you have enough money, you'll get off. We've seen it time and again, only this time they took out one of their own and they aren't happy that he's going to likely get off. If I'm being completely honest, they don't have a whole lot on him without there being enough reasonable doubt either. There are cases where I WISHED they had enough and it wasn't so they got acquitted. They botched this big time and I don't see his lawyers having that difficult of a time convincing a jury that they don't have enough to convict him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    It's a simple case of as long as you have enough money, you'll get off. We've seen it time and again, only this time they took out one of their own and they aren't happy that he's going to likely get off. If I'm being completely honest, they don't have a whole lot on him without there being enough reasonable doubt either. There are cases where I WISHED they had enough and it wasn't so they got acquitted. They botched this big time and I don't see his lawyers having that difficult of a time convincing a jury that they don't have enough to convict him.
    Agree.

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    Haha.

    "A man claiming to be an FBI agent showed up to a federal jail in New York City on Wednesday night and told officers he had a court order to release Luigi Mangione, authorities said.

    Mark Anderson, 36, of Mankato, Minnesota, was arrested and charged with impersonating an FBI agent in a foiled bid to free Mangione from the Metropolitan Detention Center, the notorious Brooklyn lockup where he is held while awaiting state and federal murder trials in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

    A criminal complaint filed against Anderson did not identify the person he attempted to free. A law enforcement official familiar with the matter confirmed it was Mangione. The official was not authorized to speak publicly and did so on condition of anonymity.

    Anderson is expected to make an initial appearance Thursday in Brooklyn federal court. Online court records did not contain information on a lawyer who could speak on his behalf. A message seeking comment was left with a spokesperson for Mangione's legal team.

    According to the criminal complaint, Anderson approached the jail intake area around 6:50 p.m. Wednesday and told uniformed jail officers that he was an FBI agent in possession of paperwork "signed by a judge" authorizing the release of a specific person in custody at the jail.

    When the officers asked for his federal credentials, Anderson showed the officers a Minnesota driver's license, threw numerous documents at them and claimed to have weapons, the criminal complaint said. Officers searched Anderson's bag and found a barbecue fork and a circular steel blade which was said to resemble a small pizza cutter wheel, the complaint said.

    Anderson had traveled to New York from Mankato, about 67 miles (107 kilometers) southwest of Minneapolis, and was working at a pizzeria after another job opportunity fell through, the law enforcement official said.

    The attempt to free Mangione happened during a critical stretch in his legal cases.

    Hours before Anderson's arrest, the Manhattan district attorney's office sent a letter urging the judge in Mangione's state case, Gregory Carro, to set a July 1 trial date.

    On Friday, Mangione will be in court for a conference in his federal case. The judge in that case, Margaret Garnett, is expected to rule soon whether prosecutors can seek the death penalty and whether they can use certain evidence against him.

    Last week, Garnett scheduled jury selection in the federal case for Sept. 8, with the rest of the trial happening in October or January, depending on whether she allows prosecutors to seek the death penalty.

    Mangione has pleaded not guilty in both cases. The state charges carry the possibility of life in prison.

    A cause célčbre for people upset with the health insurance industry, Mangione has attracted legions of supporters, some of whom have regularly turned up at his court appearances. Some have donned green clothing, the color worn by the Mario Bros. video game character Luigi, as a symbol of solidarity, and some have brought signs and shirts with slogans such as "Free Luigi" and "No Death For Luigi Mangione."

    Thompson, 50, was killed on Dec. 4, 2024, as he walked to a midtown Manhattan hotel for UnitedHealth Group's annual investor conference. Surveillance video showed a masked gunman shooting him from behind. Police say "delay," "deny" and "depose" were written on the ammunition, mimicking a phrase used to describe how insurers avoid paying claims.

    Mangione, a 27-year-old Ivy League graduate from a wealthy Maryland family, was arrested five days later at a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania, about 230 miles west of Manhattan.

    After several days of court proceedings in Pennsylvania, Mangione was whisked to New York and sent to the Metropolitan Detention Center.

    The jail is also home to former Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro and his wife, Cilia Flores, who are facing drug trafficking charges. Its former inmates include hip-hop mogul Sean "Diddy" Combs and cryptocurrency fraudster Sam Bankman-Fried."

    https://www.kcra.com/article/man-pos...gione/70192208


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    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ack-rcna266248

    The judges overseeing the federal and state trials of Luigi Mangione, the man accused of fatally shooting UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, postponed the start of both trials Wednesday.

    Mangione’s federal trial is now set to begin with jury selection on Oct. 5, followed by opening statements on Oct. 26 or Nov. 2, U.S. District Judge Margaret Garnett ruled at a hearing in downtown Manhattan.

    Hours later, New York Judge Gregory Carro ordered Mangione's state trial to begin on Sept. 8 instead of June 8.

    Mangione’s lawyers had asked Garnett to postpone the federal proceedings until January. The defense argued that the overlap between the two trials would make it difficult for Mangione to prepare for the federal case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    I can't decide if this is a good thing or bad thing for him, although this is not unexpected. It seems to take YEARS for things to actually go to trial these days.
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    A New York state court judge blocked prosecutors in the murder trial of Luigi Mangione from using some of the evidence from his backpack when he was detained by police in Altoona, Pennsylvania.

    “The evidence found during the search of the backpack at the McDonald’s must be suppressed, including the magazine, cellphone, passport, wallet and computer chip,” the judge wrote.

    However, a 3D printed gun, which is suspected of having been used in Thompson’s murder, and journal in the backpack, which was later inventoried by police at their headquarters, can be used as evidence.
    https://www.cnbc.com/2026/05/18/luig...re-murder.html

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    Luigi Mangione will assert a psychiatric defense in his state murder trial in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, the judge overseeing the case said at a hearing on Wednesday.

    New York State Judge Gregory Carro said he would be unsealing a notice from September regarding affirmative psychiatric defense and emotional disturbance at the time of the killing.
    If convicted, Mangione, 28, could be sent to a psychiatric facility instead of prison if his defense attorneys succeed in arguing that he was not of sound mind at the time of Thompson’s killing.

    Carro said that the defense needs to submit additional documentation regarding the psychiatric defense no later than tomorrow.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ase-rcna350485

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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...al/ar-AA261A37

    Mangione, 28, has withdrawn his notice of intent to present psychiatric evidence at trial, according to a court filing obtained by PEOPLE and filed on Thursday, June 18.

    The filing comes one day after a judge disclosed that Mangione's legal team had indicated they intended to argue that he was suffering from an “extreme emotional disturbance at the time of the occurrence,” according to reporting from the Associated Press.

    Judge Gregory Carro revealed the defense strategy during a court proceeding on Wednesday, June 17, according to the AP. The outlet reported that the disclosure stemmed from a sealed hearing held two weeks earlier.

    If successful, an extreme emotional disturbance defense could have allowed a jury to convict Mangione of manslaughter rather than murder, resulting in a lesser sentence, according to the AP.


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    Interesting that he withdrew that defense.

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    https://www.wmar2news.com/news/natio...al-murder-case

    Attorneys for Towson native Luigi Mangione have talked about a possible plea deal in his federal murder case, according to ABC News.

    Sources told ABC that his attorneys spoke with federal prosecutors in Manhattan, ahead of a hearing scheduled for Monday. It's not clear how far they got in the talks but they have now stopped.
    His attorney did not comment on the plea deal talks but did say in a statement to ANC News that the prosecutors were trying to "manipulate public opnion and violate [Mangione's] constitutional right to a fair trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    With the current administration, the federal trial would be a nightmare.

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    Accused CEO killer Luigi Mangione is set to return to court on Tuesday for the last scheduled pre-trial conference before jury selection begins next month in his state murder case.

    Tuesday's appearance could be the last time Mangione is seen in public before jury selection starts on Sept. 8, and the conference is one of the final opportunities for prosecutors and defense attorneys to finalize details of the high-profile trial.

    In the two months since Mangione last appeared in state court, his defense lawyers abruptly withdrew plans to argue he was experiencing an "extreme emotional disturbance" as he allegedly killed Thompson.
    Mangione's lawyers withdrew their notice about the planned defense after the judge said his lawyers would have to turn over Mangione's psychiatric records if they chose that route.

    Mangione's lawyers and federal prosecutors in Manhattan also discussed a possible guilty plea in his federal case in June, sources previously told ABC News.

    The sources said it was not clear how close the two sides came to an agreement before the negotiations stopped, and Mangione's federal trial is scheduled to begin on Jan. 5.
    https://abcnews.com/US/luigi-mangion...y?id=135528454

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    Hmmmm.......

    Apparently his Psych records weren't going to be enough to convince a jury of "extreme emotional disturbance". I don't think this would be the correct defense for him anyway. They do have enough, I believe, to prove reasonable doubt for him. They were all in such a rush to take him in that a lot of the evidence against him isn't able to be used in court. Maybe I'm just remembering wrong though. Wouldn't be the first time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    Hmmmm.......

    Apparently his Psych records weren't going to be enough to convince a jury of "extreme emotional disturbance". I don't think this would be the correct defense for him anyway. They do have enough, I believe, to prove reasonable doubt for him. They were all in such a rush to take him in that a lot of the evidence against him isn't able to be used in court. Maybe I'm just remembering wrong though. Wouldn't be the first time.
    No, you are correct. I agree the mental health defense would be wrong and they do have enough (especially at the state level) to prove reasonable doubt...especially considering his legal team has blocked certain items (his phone, wallet, passport, etc., from being presented at trial.

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    The jurors in accused CEO killer Luigi Mangione's state murder trial will be kept anonymous over concerns that they may be subject to "harassment, intimidation, or improper outside influence" if their identifying information is publicly released, according to the judge.

    Judge Gregory Carro said Tuesday that only prosecutors and defense lawyers will have access to the jurors' names and addresses. Jury selection starts on Sept. 8.
    https://abcnews.com/US/luigi-mangion...y?id=135528454

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewitchingstorm View Post
    And it will take 5 seconds until someone sleuths out their identity and targets them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    And it will take 5 seconds until someone sleuths out their identity and targets them.
    Exactly.

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    Luigi Mangione is expected to plead guilty Friday to federal charges in connection with the 2024 killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in Manhattan, according to sources familiar with the matter.

    The expected plea change comes less than a month before Mangione, 28, is scheduled to go to trial in a state murder case in connection with the fatal shooting of Thompson, 50, a father of two.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ase-rcna592221

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewitchingstorm View Post


    I think he should have taken it to trial. I think there is a good chance he would have gotten off on the charges or at least got a very reduced charge. I also think that all of what UHC is doing needs to come out in a public trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post


    I think he should have taken it to trial. I think there is a good chance he would have gotten off on the charges or at least got a very reduced charge. I also think that all of what UHC is doing needs to come out in a public trial.
    I think the federal trial was going to nail him regardless. He might have a good chance at the state level though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewitchingstorm View Post
    I think the federal trial was going to nail him regardless. He might have a good chance at the state level though.
    No matter the outcome of the trial for sentences, I would have thought he would have wanted all of the evidence on UHC to come out (and I would have thought they would not).

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    No matter the outcome of the trial for sentences, I would have thought he would have wanted all of the evidence on UHC to come out (and I would have thought they would not).
    Oh, I agree entirely.

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