Unless you are 5'0 and 95 lbs.Originally Posted by Ron_NYC
Guilty of 2nd degree murder
Guilty of manslaughter
Guilty of aggravated battery
Guilty of culpable negligence
Guilty of felony battery
Not Guilty
Hung Jury
Unless you are 5'0 and 95 lbs.
"Most people do not listen with the intent to understand; They listen with the intent to reply." ~ anonymous
"Keep calm and sing Soft Kitty"
"it is what it is!"
That would explain why you're so scared you're carrying all the fucking time. And why some pencil thin, untrained kid can deliver a lethal beating to you.
Zim was screaming help? When Trayvon has no marks on him (other than a gunshot). This is a joke.
Witness account from police report, stated he observed punches like MMA style fighting. And according to Harlette, it was changed in testimony.
yep 1 witness who is only indentified himself as john said the first night that trayvon was on top of george beaten him mma style, but when he went and talked to the prosecuters he then said that he actually didn't see any one throwing punchesjust looked like possibly some one trying to pin another down - which is what george said the first night as soon as the gun went off, he pushed off trayvons body, jumped on top of him and spread out trayvons hands so he could keep him pinned - um even though he was laready dead, guess no told george to check for a pulse when some one is unconscious - until some one could come and help him
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...ing-fdle-agent
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...ing-fdle-agent
Here is a pic of the report with said statement.
Ok I read the article, it says he redacted his statement that there was MMA style fighting. That means there wasn't.
"The love for all living creatures is the most noble attribute of man" -Charles Darwin
LOL I don't think you've ever seen MMA fighting if that's what you think is horrendous injuries resulting from it. You're certainly being picky and choosy regarding what evidence you believe in.
My bad for the bad link.
but this is what he said 3 weeks laterMy bad for the bad link.
"But three weeks later, when he was interviewed by an FDLE agent, the man said he was no longer sure which one called for help.
"I truly can't tell who, after thinking about it, was yelling for help just because it was so dark out on that sidewalk," he said.
He also said he was no longer sure Trayvon was throwing punches. The teenager may have simply been keeping Zimmerman pinned to the ground, he said."
The defense blew that first girl witness out of the water. Fibbing was evident. First she's by a window, hears noises, 15 seconds to go to the door, see 2 individuals (across the yard and in the dark) standing up with arms flailing. Later, couldn't remember what position they were in, heard the neighbor (in the other yard) say he'd call the police, heard a shot. Then, didn't see GZ anywhere, but in the dark, saw a "body" in the grass. Said she went in the house and that was the end of it. Really? no curiosity ? My God, the place must have been swarming with cops and onlookers. It was also established she'd signed a petition on her Facebook account on Justice for Trayvon. I thought she started strong, until she said the noise was left to right. She had never deposed this. From there on she got wimpy.
That's because Harlette isn't lazy using TV to parrot from.
You might want to keep up and not clilng to TV parrot versions that fits your bias.
John changed his version a few times. Watch the Dec 11th hearing, discussion on this witness is presented to the court.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H81TM6zl_6o
and
Witness 6
This witness lived a few feet from where Trayvon and Zimmerman had their fight. On the night of the shooting, he told Serino he saw a black man on top of a lighter-skinned man "just throwing down blows on the guy, MMA-style," a reference to mixed martial arts.
He also said the one calling for help was "the one being beat up," a reference to Zimmerman.
Next day to a reporter, he had a new version. ?John? said they were wrestling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0eHO...385031952701A5
with the FDLE he changed his mind again.
three weeks later, when he was interviewed by an FDLE agent, the man said he was no longer sure which one called for help.
Four tapes of LE interviews http://trayvon.axiomamnesia.com/peop...immerman-case/
"Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are" --- Benjamin Franklin
I refuse to believe at any point Zimmerman thought his life was in danger. Therefore, deadly force was never warranted.
Apparently Trayvon barely put up a fight. But besides that, you can't start a fight and then shoot someone to death once you start losing it.
Police officers confronted with criminal suspects have been prosecuted or lost their badges over shooting a suspect that turned out to be unarmed. No way Im giving some yahoo more leeway than law enforcement
You're entitled to your own opinions. You're not entitled to your own facts.- D. Moynihan
I WILL STICK MY DICK IN YOUR HEAD
but i think from what i have read on stand your ground, you can do just that - illustrating why that law is stupid.
Exactly, but georgyfans just know there's never been anyone that started a fight then got their ass beat.
"Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are" --- Benjamin Franklin
Yep. It's fucking ridiculous.
Haha I like this.
I've never lost a fight I started, if I was losing, I'd just shoot the fucker!
I've never lost a fight I started, if I was losing, I'd just shoot the fucker!
No MMA emoticon
Last edited by faq_q; 06-25-2013 at 04:58 PM. Reason: ETA
Hey faq! If they're black you'll walk away with loads of donation$.I've never lost a fight I started, if I was losing, I'd just shoot the fucker!
"Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are" --- Benjamin Franklin
Ummm.... I don't want to misunderstand Ron....so correct me if I am wrong...if I find myself in a situation when a man is a foot taller than I and outweighs me, am I not supposed to be afraid? And for reference I do not carry a fire arm but if I did and I felt that this person were out to harm me should I try and fight knowing I would lose or shoot? I am looking for an honest opinion.
"Most people do not listen with the intent to understand; They listen with the intent to reply." ~ anonymous
"Keep calm and sing Soft Kitty"
"it is what it is!"
You're a chick. Moot point.
ETA: But if a guy were your size, shooting would be a pretty viable option for him as well.
That's why we call it Neighborhood Watch, and not Neighborhood Cowboy.
Thanks love...just wanted to be clear and Happy Birthday!! Wait...are you a Cancer?
"Most people do not listen with the intent to understand; They listen with the intent to reply." ~ anonymous
"Keep calm and sing Soft Kitty"
"it is what it is!"
Haha I don't think a woman that is 90 lbs. has to go around bodyslamming guys MMA style.
And yes.
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