Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

[Rockabillychick]

I don't know either. Does anyone know if the defense can cross examine the family members?

No, I don't think that they can. These are statements not really testimony, BUT I would like to know what they were playing at when they asked for background, psychiatric medical records, etc. I don't know if in closing they can attack the character of the family. I would hope not.

[NCBlonde]

Ian -- since you are here -- I wondered about the jurors giving the affirmations of their decisions yesterday. When it was there turn to individually confirm, it seemed as though Juror 2 was very loud and firm with his response. I was a little surprised at this because various trial-watchers (from outside this site) seemed to think he was leaning towards being a Jodi supporter; and there was even that video clip where it was suggested that Jodi said to Willmotte "We have juror 2" or something to that effect.

So, I guess my question is, could you tell anything about his demeanor when he spoke up? If you could even see him that is. He seemed bold and confident, and frankly I was surprised by that, since it's been suggested he might be the one who leaned Jodi's way. Perhaps he just had a commanding speaking voice? We know that things sounds different on tv/internet than in court, as many have said Martinez does not come across as "shouty" in the courtroom, as he sometimes does on the media feed.

So yeah, I'm not sure if you noticed anything in particular, like as to demeanor of the jurors or if you were even close enough, but was just a little curious. I would be interested to know if any of the jurors made eye contact with the DT/Jodi, or even just looked in the direction of their table.

[Ian 1]

Hmm ok so defense says since adrenaline was present, there was no pain. It was the pain and anguish he was suffering that caused the adrenaline. Based on the DT view.....there is no pain involved cause of adrenaline so it is ok to bloody stab over and over and over again? Makes me sick.

That's how ridiculous Wilmott's cross of Dr. Kevin Horn was. Childish really and obviously grasping at straws or just going through the motions! "Go ahead and stab away. It doesn't hurt 'cause I'm having an adrenaline rush." Obviously it didn't impress any Juror, not even the unorthodox guy wearing the flip-flops!!!

[Karlita]

Difficult to explain. Self-appointed gatekeeper, self-deprecating fashionista, status-seeker, who, just the other day, regaled the group with her story of her former successful career as a 'respiratory therapist' and then, in the next breath, went on to speak of her equally successful daughter, (a medical practitioner), who "I currently have in rehab for the third time because she just can't stay away from the booze, blah, blah, blah." That waiting area is kind of a platform for some who want to attract a wider audience. It takes all kinds. But, it's the People and they're entitled to be there despite the face they'd prefer that others not appear. The system works.

Ian's statement regarding the leopard lady, as he puts it self depreciating fashionista reminds me of the song Copa Cabana about the dancer with the faded feathers in her hair!!!

[wasthinking]

Looks like she got her one hour of "outside time"

@Jodiannarias 33m

"God's love is so great that He loves even the proud, the selfish, the arrogant, and the wicked." - Dieter F. Uchtdorf

What an arrogant bitch.

Well, long as she likes to cherry pick... I'll have to send her a post card :)

Proverbs 6:16-19
16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

I'm back to my daughters place and trying to unwind. What a day. What an experience being in the courtroom this morning. I've got lots of thoughts and observations that I will post after I get a bite to eat and some liquid refreshments.

It was a treat meeting Ian. He is very articulate and speaks eloquently. I look forward to hearing his thoughts on today too.

More later

BOMBSHELL ... Intelligent articulate speakers. Finally HLN has a real first.

I thought about that after I posted... you're right... on both counts, he won't do her much good if he does show up.

I'm waiting for this
Nurmi: You heard about her IQ, she could be helpful to the prison community an assist in teaching other inmates.


Martinez: Teaching, ah yes ... she is going to teach them how to code messages and try to smuggle them out of the prison.

[NCBlonde]

Someone here posted Dan F told jodi a story about a family member and Jodi somehow used this in some way. Anyone have details on thi? TY

Dan's brother actually committed suicide on the day of Jodi's arrest. It turned out in the suicide note, the brother said that he was molested as a child and that he had terrible urges and thoughts, and that he was afraid he could become an abuser himself, and he could not live with that; so he killed himself.

The thinking is, that this is where Jodi got the idea to label Travis a pedophile.

I wonder if she's referring to herself, or Juan and the jury?

Dunno, I tweeted her but she didn't respond.

[Poppycock]

The man sitting to the right of the gatekeeper, 'Tiger Lady' is the very nice, calm, gentleman who gave up his place to me on verdict day so as to enhance my chances of getting in. He had already seen many days of trial. I didn't get in but that doesn't detract from the generosity of his gesture. He is connected to 'Legal Shield' and gave me his card before we parted at the end of the day.

The second interview with JVM that Denver and I had took place just minutes after the Cruelty verdict was announced. The Jury deliberated for exactly one hour and thirty-three minutes, (according to JVM) and we did the interview just minutes after that.

Trivial details that give the story life and legs! It is a helluva story and I expect the impact of how it all unfolded from beginning to end will stay with all of us for a long time to come.

If anybody wants to read a good book about a comparable murder, read "Internal Combustion" by Joyce Maynard. It's a book about the woman in Detroit who did her automobile engineer husband in. It's a good read with some parallels to the Arias case.

Thanks.

His name is Chris and he was interviewed by Jane after you guys yesterday , and he stuck up for Bossy. On one of my visits,she gave erroneous seating advise to a mom and daughter, who almost missed getting in even though they arrived before 2/3rds of the line. The deputy marshal returned after finding he had two more seats for them.
Chris had the entire back row and was catching zzzzz's that morning.

[NCBlonde]

No, I don't think that they can. These are statements not really testimony, BUT I would like to know what they were playing at when they asked for background, psychiatric medical records, etc. I don't know if in closing they can attack the character of the family. I would hope not.

I don't believe Travis' siblings can be "crossed" because they are not actually testifying. Same goes for Jodi though, she can get up there and say whatever she wants and Martinez can't stop her.

I can't imagine the defense can attack Travis' sibling about anything because their personal history is not relevant to Jodi's fate. Had they taken the stand in the actual trial, I imagine they would've tried to paint them as drug users or having grown up abused so that they thought abuse was a normal thing and then so did Travis, etc. I believe it was Alyce who tried to paint Travis as an abuser because he grew up being abused. I don't think they can do that in closing though. Even if they could, it would be extremely unwise. The jury didn't stand for the DT attacking Travis and dragging him through the mud, they certainly aren't going to look favorably on the DT attacking his grieving family

I could see Jodi being defiant enough to do it, and her DT not being able to stop her.

The one thing that I thought was good? The talking heads on HLN said that Travis' family can address the pedo/abuse allegations and how those false claims effected them as a family.

[wasthinking]

[QUOTE=NCBlonde;3420685]

It's interesting how easily she was able to manipulate all her co-prisoners. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has noticed that in the free world, all the females in Travis' life knew something was off with Jodi right away,

But that isn't the case really here and why this pychopath is so dangerous and should never be let free.
Sky is female and was easily and quickly fooled. She liked her! thought her a good match for Travis. Was even willing to bite into Travis' ass, her friend of many years, on nothing more than the lies from a killer she barely knew.

She's a good manipulator. Drews second chair and that other TH were whining for her last night! Both females!
All they want to see is ... a love affair gone bad murder. They are batshit themselves. She was arrested with her 'future' killing weapons; knives and guns. How many bodies do they want before they stop their whining!

I can only guess that those who rally around Jodi in prison are of a similar stripe; criminals who don't think they did anything wrong; someone else was to blame and they're all innocent victims.

^This! In crime, it's all a game to them all. Except apparently, she can't fool them all, one wanted to bash her head (fight).

Interesting. I assume he'll go on about how Jodi was so good with his son, blah blah blah. And obviously if she liked kids, she couldn't be a bad person; nevermind that she is a cold-blooded murderer. SMH

I agree! Killer remembers JM's dig at her in re to a child... paraphrased 'would you depend on this defendant if a child needed medical care'.
She hates him for that, can't let go of it, it turns in her mind as an offense that must be dealt with!

[M Joy]

MINUTE ENTRY 05/14/2013
Juan Martinez
Kirk Nurmi and Jennifer Willmott Present
Mike Babicky
This is the time set for Status Conference.

LET THE RECORD REFLECT Lisa Allen and Deputy Chief Brian Lee from the Maricopa County Sheriff?s Office are present. Also present are the victim?s next of kin.
10:23 a.m. All parties leave the court room. Counsel for the Defendant and the Defendant remain and ex parte hearing begins.
Discussion is held.
Docket Code 029 Form R000D Page 1
10:36 a.m. ex parte hearing concludes. All parties are now present.

LET THE RECORD REFLECT Lisa Allen and Deputy Chief Brian Lee from the Maricopa County Sheriff?s Office are present. Also present are the victim?s next of kin.
Discussion held regarding media interviews with the Defendant.
IT IS ORDERED there shall be no further media interviews with the Defendant pending further order of the court.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED the Maricopa County Sheriff?s Office shall not approach the Defendant with any media requests pending further order of the court.
Discussion held regarding Defendant?s Request that Victim Impact Evidence be Presented via Videotape.
IT IS ORDERED denying the Request for reasons stated on the record.
Discussion held regarding Defendant?s Motion for Discovery of Victim Impact Evidence.
IT IS ORDERED denying the Motion.
Discussion is held on Counsel for the Defendant?s Motion to Withdraw.
IT IS ORDERED denying the Motion.
10:59 a.m. Status Conference concludes.
11:00 a.m. Ex parte hearing with Counsel for the Defendant and Defendant present.

[NCBlonde]

MINUTE ENTRY 05/14/2013
Juan Martinez
Kirk Nurmi and Jennifer Willmott Present
Mike Babicky
This is the time set for Status Conference.

LET THE RECORD REFLECT Lisa Allen and Deputy Chief Brian Lee from the Maricopa County Sheriff?s Office are present. Also present are the victim?s next of kin.
10:23 a.m. All parties leave the court room. Counsel for the Defendant and the Defendant remain and ex parte hearing begins.
Discussion is held.
Docket Code 029 Form R000D Page 1
10:36 a.m. ex parte hearing concludes. All parties are now present.

LET THE RECORD REFLECT Lisa Allen and Deputy Chief Brian Lee from the Maricopa County Sheriff?s Office are present. Also present are the victim?s next of kin.
Discussion held regarding media interviews with the Defendant.
IT IS ORDERED there shall be no further media interviews with the Defendant pending further order of the court.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED the Maricopa County Sheriff?s Office shall not approach the Defendant with any media requests pending further order of the court.
Discussion held regarding Defendant?s Request that Victim Impact Evidence be Presented via Videotape.
IT IS ORDERED denying the Request for reasons stated on the record.
Discussion held regarding Defendant?s Motion for Discovery of Victim Impact Evidence.
IT IS ORDERED denying the Motion.
Discussion is held on Counsel for the Defendant?s Motion to Withdraw.
IT IS ORDERED denying the Motion.
10:59 a.m. Status Conference concludes.
11:00 a.m. Ex parte hearing with Counsel for the Defendant and Defendant present.

Defense team still trying to get out of it! I wonder why they keep trying, I can't imagine the judge would allow it this late in the game; it's almost over. And surely they don't think Jodi could handle mitigation herself, nor that the judge would just go, "okay, forget the last 5 months, do-over!" So really, what is the point in trying to withdraw now?

Interesting with that other motion, seems they want to know what Travis' siblings are going to say before they get up and say it No doubt because they want to try and counter it somehow. Glad it was denied. It shouldn't be a matter of "Jodi gets up there and crafts her statement to counteract the siblings", it should be her honest (haha) attempt to save her own life by speaking from the heart (hahaha).

[jingles]

MINUTE ENTRY 05/14/2013
Juan Martinez
Kirk Nurmi and Jennifer Willmott Present
Mike Babicky
This is the time set for Status Conference.

LET THE RECORD REFLECT Lisa Allen and Deputy Chief Brian Lee from the Maricopa County Sheriff?s Office are present. Also present are the victim?s next of kin.
10:23 a.m. All parties leave the court room. Counsel for the Defendant and the Defendant remain and ex parte hearing begins.
Discussion is held.
Docket Code 029 Form R000D Page 1
10:36 a.m. ex parte hearing concludes. All parties are now present.

LET THE RECORD REFLECT Lisa Allen and Deputy Chief Brian Lee from the Maricopa County Sheriff?s Office are present. Also present are the victim?s next of kin.
Discussion held regarding media interviews with the Defendant.
IT IS ORDERED there shall be no further media interviews with the Defendant pending further order of the court.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED the Maricopa County Sheriff?s Office shall not approach the Defendant with any media requests pending further order of the court.
Discussion held regarding Defendant?s Request that Victim Impact Evidence be Presented via Videotape.
IT IS ORDERED denying the Request for reasons stated on the record.
Discussion held regarding Defendant?s Motion for Discovery of Victim Impact Evidence.
IT IS ORDERED denying the Motion.
Discussion is held on Counsel for the Defendant?s Motion to Withdraw.
IT IS ORDERED denying the Motion.
10:59 a.m. Status Conference concludes.
11:00 a.m. Ex parte hearing with Counsel for the Defendant and Defendant present.

Thanks so much, M Joy!!! Wow, just heard on HLN that JW and KN wanted to withdraw but they didn't give the details! Can we blame them? lol But this was on Tues. that they asked to withdraw? I wonder then what the reason was for court being cancelled on Thurs., when the aggravation phase was to begin, the day after the verdict, after she did the interview! (Hope I"m getting my days straight, can't keep the schedule straight, lol.)

[deanna1247]

[QUOTE=wasthinking;3420728]

But that isn't the case really here and why this pychopath is so dangerous and should never be let free.
Sky is female and was easily and quickly fooled. She liked her! thought her a good match for Travis. Was even willing to bite into Travis' ass, her friend of many years, on nothing more than the lies from a killer she barely knew.

She's a good manipulator. Drews second chair and that other TH were whining for her last night! Both females!
All they want to see is ... a love affair gone bad murder. They are batshit themselves. She was arrested with her 'future' killing weapons; knives and guns. How many bodies do they want before they stop their whining!



^This! In crime, it's all a game to them all. Except apparently, she can't fool them all, one wanted to bash her head (fight).


I agree! Killer remembers JM's dig at her in re to a child... paraphrased 'would you depend on this defendant if a child needed medical care'.
She hates him for that, can't let go of it, it turns in her mind as an offense that must be dealt with!

Prison is quite a bit different than the county jail too. The woman there are a little more hardened and it may be a little bit harder to gain control for Ms. Jodi.

[TeamRenew]

We are lucky girls......all of our MDS boys are hotties!!!!

Why, thank you.

::blushes::

[alyoop]

Defense team still trying to get out of it! I wonder why they keep trying, I can't imagine the judge would allow it this late in the game; it's almost over. And surely they don't think Jodi could handle mitigation herself, nor that the judge would just go, "okay, forget the last 5 months, do-over!" So really, what is the point in trying to withdraw now?

Isn't this her motion to withdraw the DP? I didn't think it had to do with the attorneys? either way. denied pleases me.

Did anyone who took a walk on the dark side (JAII site) notice the posts regarding a letter writing campaign to Alan Dershowitz to be her attorney on appeal? And the letter writing campaign to their all their state lawmakers (any state) to overturn the verdict. some totally funny shit going on over there.
I really gotta stop going there for laughs. Some of the comments make me feel like I need a shower to get the dirty off.

[TeamRenew]

What's the story with the redhead bobble head doll that is to the right of Dr. Drew? She spends the whole show staring at the camera with her mouth open. How does one get a gig like that?

She's a dumb ho. Total mouth breather.

She used to be just another fat chick but now thinks she's hot shit because now she ain't pushing maximum density.

[Rachael123]

God bless her,she has spunk:)Love your pictures.Thanks.

you can tell from her attire she is a "LIME light seeker". She was always trying to quiet everyone down and had many that responded exactly as Ian and DC did, and she likes to hobnob with KW and Stacy, I have pics of her with them in my album, which you can see by clicking on a photo.


Nice reporting DC! (I added the photo of the defense trio from a couple weeks ago)


Well I want you to get in so I won't make your head swell any more
I thought your second JVM interview was post verdict, or was that a third one? You got your feet wet the first time you were here with channel 3, you are a pro now!

[TeamRenew]

Hey Biggie... Dr. Drew's co-host is from the B-52's.... Rock Lobster

(She wishes... The 52's still rock)

Jenny Hutt was totally rocking a Planet of the Apes hairdo. Either that or a sturdy HAIR HELMET. What da fuck.

[dizzyp]

Someone here posted Dan F told jodi a story about a family member and Jodi somehow used this in some way. Anyone have details on thi? TY

It was Dan's brother Josh Freeman, molested as a child and committed suicide..

here's the original discussion: http://mydeathspace.com/vb/showthrea...=1#post3375654

[wasthinking]

Defense team still trying to get out of it! I wonder why they keep trying, I can't imagine the judge would allow it this late in the game; it's almost over. And surely they don't think Jodi could handle mitigation herself, nor that the judge would just go, "okay, forget the last 5 months, do-over!" So really, what is the point in trying to withdraw now?

Interesting with that other motion, seems they want to know what Travis' siblings are going to say before they get up and say it No doubt because they want to try and counter it somehow. Glad it was denied. It shouldn't be a matter of "Jodi gets up there and crafts her statement to counteract the siblings", it should be her honest (haha) attempt to save her own life by speaking from the heart (hahaha).

IMO just another dirty trick from this defense. Use mob hate of Jodi to gain sympathy for themselves after their disgusting strategies and court behaviors.
Second gain -- their private practices. Quite clever when you think about it on one hand, and pretty stupid on the other. So they gain sympathy from a couple JA haters.... and what? They are saying they will want to dump their client without following through on their 'job' on the other hand. Great move for private practice advertising.

[smurfy]

Isn't this her motion to withdraw the DP? I didn't think it had to do with the attorneys? either way. denied pleases me.

Did anyone who took a walk on the dark side (JAII site) notice the posts regarding a letter writing campaign to Alan Dershowitz to be her attorney on appeal? And the letter writing campaign to their all their state lawmakers (any state) to overturn the verdict. some totally funny shit going on over there.
I really gotta stop going there for laughs. Some of the comments make me feel like I need a shower to get the dirty off.

The comments over there that made me worry were the ones about finding out who is on the jury. Asking if those names will be public when all is said and done.... Why the fuck would anyone need to know who the jurors are? After reading it I thought the state should really keep the names of the remaining ones sealed!! Those people are fucked! I wouldnt put it past them to try something with a juror if they dont like the outcome!

[TeamRenew]

The courtroom is enormous. You get no idea from TV.

OMG - Donovan. How can I describe her/him. It sat right in front of Ian. I cannot adequately describe her. I wonder if the JA family realizes how weird she is.

The Alexander family sat right across from me and I tell you their pain and sorrow is real genuine. JM is very attentative to them. Professional guy!

JW has nice legs but that's about it. Nurmi is.. Well, Nurmi. A giant. Reminds me of Golith. David is JM.

The mitigation specialist? How can I describe? Rode hard and put up wet? I don't know but I swear she reminds me or a Tijuana hooker. High heals? She must get nose bleed. Totally unprofessional appearance and demeanor.

The jury! First time I've seen them and from my seat they were all visible. Very ordinary looking folks probably overwhelmed by their responsibility. When JM speaks he has the attention of all jurors. It's impressive.

Next part to follow.

Good analysis and inside info.

I think that the mitigation specialist is fresh off performing in Tijuana Donkey Shows. Seems like a piece of trash.

[TeamRenew]

It was Dan's brother Josh Freeman, molested as a child and committed suicide..

here's the original discussion: http://mydeathspace.com/vb/showthrea...=1#post3375654

Josh Freeman is still alive. Plays quarterback for the buccaneers.

[Karlita]

Anyone have a link to yesterdays court proceedings and what time court is starting at today?? TIA

[TeamRenew]

That just made me giggle...

It was cute.

I must spread reputation around before smiting you additionally for being completely and utterly worthless.