Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

[Metis212]

shall we create a thread for jury predictions? Im happy to set it up

[Rockabillychick]

So in the next phase.... if Jodi gets up and says "I'm sorry", do you think the jury will believe it?
Or maybe she just can't get those words out of her mouth, even with her life on the line

She won't though... She isn't sorry, and I don't think even faking those words is in her repertoire.
She did that interview 20 minutes after the verdict, and not even then did "I'm sorry" come out of her mouth. You would think that would have been the first thing she would say...

[Brillig]

That WAS our Ian in the salmon polo shirt behind Mama Arias! And our DenverClipper to his left in the blue shirt!

(Ian just texted me)

[PopRocks]

So in the next phase.... if Jodi gets up and says "I'm sorry", do you think the jury will believe it?
Or maybe she just can't get those words out of her mouth, even with her life on the line

Shes probably never uttered those words ever in her life

[tinaturner]

that really was powerful the 2 min of silence.. on two levels.. how much havoc she caused in that time but also a certain reverence for the memory of Travis. That's how I felt... very moving.

Yes well said. Those two minutes felt like a paying of respect to Travis in a way that has not been allowed yet in this trial due to so much muddying of waters by the defense and things always being spoken of only as they are relevant to Jodi. Those two silent minutes truly humanized travis and brought a tangable element to his suffering.

[alyoop]

shall we create a thread for jury predictions? Im happy to set it up

yes. I am going to run for cover.


You were kidding right?
Maybe we could just use the old one, make it all shiny new again? I think we may give Bowie an aneurysm if a new thread were started.

[ShellJett]

shall we create a thread for jury predictions? Im happy to set it up

Go for it Metis. We need something to do while we wait.

[NCBlonde]

Couple of interesting articles here, to pass the time.

http://tamaratattles.com/2013/04/27/...-deliberation/

http://www.nlada.org/DMS/Documents/1...hjurors24.html

[I doubt it]

Everyone stands except JA. She has Maria getting her a pill.

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

shall we create a thread for jury predictions? Im happy to set it up

We could use the same one we already have?

That WAS our Ian in the salmon polo shirt behind Mama Arias! And our DenverClipper to his left in the blue shirt!

(Ian just texted me)

Waiting for scoop!

[tinaturner]

Ugh I hate when Wurmi says "May we approach Judge?" and is already out of his seat and walking up before she even responds. I guess its probably because she never refuses but still it seems so disrespectful.

[poppym]

So in the next phase.... if Jodi gets up and says "I'm sorry", do you think the jury will believe it?
Or maybe she just can't get those words out of her mouth, even with her life on the line

I honestly don't think she will say 'I'm Sorry'! Not even to save her life! She's too embedded in her own lies! She believes her lies now, and this makes her the Victim! What do victim's have to say sorry for?

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

After the jury left the room, the camera feed stayed on for a couple of minutes. Maria the Mitigator went up and sat next to Jodi and they appeared to be discussing something to do with Jodi's fake glasses. Maria goes back to her table and retrieves a black rag from her Coach purse and then goes back and sits next to Jodi and gives it to her. Jodi uses the rag to wipe off her glasses and then furtively slips something into her mouth! I don't know why she needed a rag, she has a whole box of Kleenex right there on her table. Did anybody else see that?

This is where Disco Donna goes to retrieve the black rag and pill

[rdeadline]

I don't like to focus on the gorier parts of the trial. She did the crime, then did a bunch of stupid things to cover it up. In Halloween 2 the remake, there is a scene where Michael is in a bathroom with a victim saying owe, well that grosses me out, and I can just imagine Travis in her place.

[sheesh]

Do you think he, Travis, was silent when this was going on?

Travis Alexander suffered enough here for two lifetimes.

...where the individual he had just been with previously was going at him with a knife.

...as he lay there at the end of that hallway, no longer able to even attempt defend himself, face up watching as she brought the blade down to his throat.

[alyoop]

"After they reached the guilty verdict, jurors heard a week of testimony on why Andriano should be executed, the aggravating factors that go into a death penalty decision.
They deliberated for four hours before finding the slaying was especially cruel, qualifying her for the death sentence.
They then heard six days of testimony on mitigating factors, reasons her life should be spared."

Thanks for the article NCB. so after a week of testimony took this jury 4 hours to come back with cruelty. hmmm. interesting. a WEEK to prove it was cruel. Yikes. he was poisoned, stabbed AND bludgeoned.

[Jinkasaurus]

what happens if jury does NOT think there was cruelty?

[Bellaboo]

So in the next phase.... if Jodi gets up and says "I'm sorry", do you think the jury will believe it?
Or maybe she just can't get those words out of her mouth, even with her life on the line

I don't believe she could or ever will say those words. If she could I do not think the jury would believe her especially y since she has vilified him the past four plus months.

[NCBlonde]

what happens if jury does NOT think there was cruelty?

Then the death penalty is off the table.

[M Joy]

"After they reached the guilty verdict, jurors heard a week of testimony on why Andriano should be executed, the aggravating factors that go into a death penalty decision.
They deliberated for four hours before finding the slaying was especially cruel, qualifying her for the death sentence.
They then heard six days of testimony on mitigating factors, reasons her life should be spared."

Thanks for the article NCB. so after a week of testimony took this jury 4 hours to come back with cruelty. hmmm. interesting. a WEEK to prove it was cruel. Yikes. he was poisoned, stabbed AND bludgeoned.

It took a week to get through the aggravation phase? That had to be brutal. And that trial didn't go on near as long as this one has. Strange.

Do we know if the jurors are actually deliberating or at lunch?

[Iluvsam]

what happens if jury does NOT think there was cruelty?

Then that's it. The judge will do the sentencing.

[Jinkasaurus]

Then the death penalty is off the table.

is there still a mitigation phase then?

[AnnieBelle]

We could use the same one we already have?



Waiting for scoop!

I THOUGHT so!!!! That is fantastic, that they both got in! I know Ian was very disappointed when he didn't get into the courtroom last week, and was hoping that he'd get in, today!! And what great seats, they had!! Can't wait to hear their views on what they saw and heard!!

[alyoop]

what happens if jury does NOT think there was cruelty?

Then it goes right to sentencing. Judge can give her LWOP<--natural life, or Life<--parole poss after 25 yrs. I think. don't quote me or nothing, its in this thread alot, somewhere

[PopRocks]

Then that's it. The judge will do the sentencing.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO