Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

[wasthinking]

if you have not done so, you MUST listen to the entirety of this Chris Hughes interview...

He fills in almost every bit of the Travis/Jodi story.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websleu...t-8-pm-eastern

It was well worth the 3 hrs imo. wonderful not to have Drew or HLN cutting off every word. What stuck out to me the most was 'Travis won't commit, won't ask me to move to Arizona'. Now we all know she lied, but this information fits perfectly in with her own diary words. Sleeping on a floor. Borrowing a futon. Nice change to have a bed at Rachel's. IMO it supports she went there hoping to 'guilt' Travis into providing her a place... and wanting that to lead him to marry her.
We know, that didn't happen I've said all along, the day she had to pull out of Arizona with nothing, knowing she had to go back to a child's bed in a cramped less that fancy home, she hated him, and would kill him.

[DenverClipper]

A not guilty or hung jury would kill me!!! Can't imagine the effect that would have on the family and Juan .....

Why waste a good worry on a not guilty verdict? You know it's not going to happen.

[bermstalker]

if you have not done so, you MUST listen to the entirety of this Chris Hughes interview...

He fills in almost every bit of the Travis/Jodi story.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websleu...t-8-pm-eastern

Pretty interesting that Jodi was pretending that a guy was stalking her to get attention from Travis

Then the May 26 text where Travis calls her all those names. They suspect that Jodi told Travis she recorded the phone sex call and threatened to send MiMi the copy of the tape.

[sheesh]

It was well worth the 3 hrs imo. wonderful not to have Drew or HLN cutting off every word...

Yep, no Nancy Grace 5 second soundbytes.

Interesting how some people immediately picked up on Jodi's evilness -- some just from her myspace page -- and how others, including himself & Sky(who has a good people radar) accepted her initially and it took time for them to realize Jodi was messed up. "Travis thought Jodi was the nicest person on the planet." Jodi started just showing up at Chris/Sky's house unannounced and playing the victim early on...

Lots of important little details finally build this into a whole cloth. Jodi saying she would be contacting her lawyer... Jodi strutting out to that room full of men... Jodi's vision that they'll be married after 4 or 5 dates...

[wasthinking]

I like seeing the possible outcomes in a flow chart format. Its informative. Hope the jury has a similar outline.

I'm wondering if JM could be waiting till the aggravation phase to introduce a "reason" for that fateful last text from Travis?

ETA - does anyone know if new evidence can be introduced during the aggravation phase?

Appears they can as long as it is relevant ..



C. At the penalty phase of the sentencing proceeding that is held pursuant to section 13-752, the prosecution or the defendant may present any information that is relevant to any of the mitigating circumstances included in subsection G of this section, regardless of its admissibility under the rules governing admission of evidence at criminal trials. The burden of establishing the existence of the mitigating circumstances included in subsection G of this section is on the defendant. The defendant must prove the existence of the mitigating circumstances by a preponderance of the evidence. If the trier of fact is a jury, the jurors do not have to agree unanimously that a mitigating circumstance has been proven to exist. Each juror may consider any mitigating circumstance found by that juror in determining the appropriate penalty.

D. Evidence that is admitted at the trial and that relates to any aggravating or mitigating circumstances shall be deemed admitted as evidence at a sentencing proceeding if the trier of fact considering that evidence is the same trier of fact that determined the defendant's guilt. The prosecution and the defendant shall be permitted to rebut any information received at the aggravation or penalty phase of the sentencing proceeding and shall be given fair opportunity to present argument as to whether the information is sufficient to establish the existence of any of the circumstances included in subsections F and G of this section.

[AnnieBelle]

if you have not done so, you MUST listen to the entirety of this Chris Hughes interview...

He fills in almost every bit of the Travis/Jodi story.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websleu...t-8-pm-eastern

Thank you for providing this link! I definitely want to listen to this!!

[M Joy]

if you have not done so, you MUST listen to the entirety of this Chris Hughes interview...

He fills in almost every bit of the Travis/Jodi story.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websleu...t-8-pm-eastern

Thank you for this. Listening now, while waiting for a verdict. Hope it comes early

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

82,000 Text & Emails and not one mentioned a bruise or apology. Then we have a self proclaimed Professional Photographer who claims abuse without one photo of evidence?

A self proclaimed Professional Photographer who didn't have the one person, Matt McCartney, she claimed saw the supposed bruises on her neck take a photograph of them and keep them for her?

Her entire story is a lie and made up in jail where she probably gleaned details from other people who may have suffered actual abuse and wove into her story with the help of Alyce Laviolette.,

[sheesh]

82,000 Text & Emails and not one mentioned a bruise or apology. Then we have a self proclaimed Professional Photographer who claims abuse without one photo of evidence?

A self proclaimed Professional Photographer who didn't have the one person, Matt McCartney, she claimed saw the supposed bruises on her neck take a photograph of them and keep them for her?

Her entire story is a lie and made up in jail where she probably gleaned details from other people who may have suffered actual abuse and wove into her story with the help of Alyce Laviolette.,

5 years of the defense deposing, interviewing every single person that ever knew Travis and not one person said Travis was ever abusive in any way.

How many hundreds of people who worked with and were waited on by Jodi and not one person recalled a "broken" finger. Never asked for help carrying tray, no customer witnessing that. But, everyone at the PPL dinner the night after she killed him saw her bandaged fingers -- where she told a different story that we haven't heard yet.

Travis relayed to Sky that Jodi told him Sky was her best friend! Sky was like .... what? I've never even called her!

[wasthinking]

Yep, no Nancy Grace 5 second soundbytes.

Interesting how some people immediately picked up on Jodi's evilness -- some just from her myspace page -- and how others, including himself & Sky(who has a good people radar) accepted her initially and it took time for them to realize Jodi was messed up. "Travis thought Jodi was the nicest person on the planet." Jodi started just showing up at Chris/Sky's house unannounced and playing the victim early on...

Lots of important little details finally build this into a whole cloth. Jodi saying she would be contacting her lawyer... Jodi strutting out to that room full of men... Jodi's vision that they'll be married after 4 or 5 dates...

The jealousy thing we all figured she did, but it was interesting to hear specifics cementing it more. I think 'radar' comes in varying levels and sorry to Chris, who clearly thinks the world of his wife, but I got the feeling Sky might be missing a few waves. She missed JA in the beginning and missed cues to rotten Nurmi in the start ( neither a sign of extra senses). So sad by the time they did catch on, they couldn't get through to Travis. :( I loved hearing Travis responses to them .. (paraphrased) chill, I don't even know if I want to commit to her, only dated a few months'. So level headed.

Even feeling his friends went over the line, Travis' outstanding ability of the goodness in him showed in his reaction 'lets just forget it'. We probably all know someone like that, you couldn't show /tell them something *bad* about someone, they refuse to go there. Have to learn it on their own the hard way when they can't find any excuses left to tell themselves. Just so sad!

JA going to contact 'her lawyer' was very interesting! BMW? Or my fav guess is, illegal wire tapping of the sex tape.

[alyoop]

82,000 Text & Emails and not one mentioned a bruise or apology. Then we have a self proclaimed Professional Photographer who claims abuse without one photo of evidence?

A self proclaimed Professional Photographer who didn't have the one person, Matt McCartney, she claimed saw the supposed bruises on her neck take a photograph of them and keep them for her?

Her entire story is a lie and made up in jail where she probably gleaned details from other people who may have suffered actual abuse and wove into her story with the help of Alyce Laviolette.,

And then turn that around. the stalking. People around Travis saw it, heard it, talked about it.
I was abused, and while I didn't tell anyone, people knew. They saw my change in attitude, they saw turtlenecks and or sweatshirts in summer. Or they wondered at my absence from work, or a gathering or whatever. People noticed my ex's behavior as well. And while some made comments, usually behind our backs, people observed.
And yet stabby the WAITRESS, has a broken finger she claims Travis put a splint on? And NO ONE noticed? please. Or neck bruises she claims she covered in makeup? Make up tends to make the bruises worse and MORE visible, I know this from experience. And no one BUT the ever obsevant Matt noticed? please. its ludicrous in every aspect.

[ShellJett]

Somewhere, I think I heard/read that a pillow was missing...the fragment of "rope" maybe from said pillow that may have been used to muffle the gun....which would also account for the lack of stipple at the wound site......?????

I have always believed that one of the throw pillows was used to muffle the shot too. Around 5:30 people are coming home from work, and regardless of the small caliber, I think Stabby was careful enough not to draw attention with a gunshot. I think she was very prepared and there is probably much we don't know and will never know.

[wasthinking]

Pretty interesting that Jodi was pretending that a guy was stalking her to get attention from Travis

Then the May 26 text where Travis calls her all those names. They suspect that Jodi told Travis she recorded the phone sex call and threatened to send MiMi the copy of the tape.

It was for more than attention, that little trick was an attempt to get him to ask her to move to AZ!
Reminded me of her sex tape ploy BS about how she wanted a man kinky but mormon. Of course she was sure there were 'plenty' of kinky mormon girls, but boohoo, she wanted 'a husband like you'.

[ShellJett]

Why waste a good worry on a not guilty verdict? You know it's not going to happen.

As bad as a hung jury is for the family, anything less than a Murder 1 conviction would be worse for them.

[wasthinking]

Fashion report on the jurors


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[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

5 years of the defense deposing, interviewing every single person that ever knew Travis and not one person said Travis was ever abusive in any way.

How many hundreds of people who worked with and were waited on by Jodi and not one person recalled a "broken" finger. Never asked for help carrying tray, no customer witnessing that. But, everyone at the PPL dinner the night after she killed him saw her bandaged fingers -- where she told a different story that we haven't heard yet.

Travis relayed to Sky that Jodi told him Sky was her best friend! Sky was like .... what? I've never even called her!

Stabby claimed from witness stand under cross from JM that a PPL junior associate saw her finger in a splint, her perfect memory failed her then as she she couldn't recall who it was. What a load of crap.

5 years of the defense deposing, interviewing every single person that ever knew Travis and not one person said Travis could even say they even recalled him raising his voice, never mind being abusive physically.

Alyce Laviolette should forever be remembered as an apologist, a liar and member of the hall of shame!

The jealousy thing we all figured she did, but it was interesting to hear specifics cementing it more. I think 'radar' comes in varying levels and sorry to Chris, who clearly thinks the world of his wife, but I got the feeling Sky might be missing a few waves. She missed JA in the beginning and missed cues to rotten Nurmi in the start ( neither a sign of extra senses). So sad by the time they did catch on, they couldn't get through to Travis. :( I loved hearing Travis responses to them .. (paraphrased) chill, I don't even know if I want to commit to her, only dated a few months'. So level headed.

Even feeling his friends went over the line, Travis' outstanding ability of the goodness in him showed in his reaction 'lets just forget it'. We probably all know someone like that, you couldn't show /tell them something *bad* about someone, they refuse to go there. Have to learn it on their own the hard way when they can't find any excuses left to tell themselves. Just so sad!

JA going to contact 'her lawyer' was very interesting! BMW? Or my fav guess is, illegal wire tapping of the sex tape.

The BMW or possibly hacking his bank accounts? Could also be the taping of the May 10th phone call without his knowledge. E know he caught her hacking his email because of the one he sent to himself, essentially saying "You're busted, I know you're hacking my my account", knowing she would read it

If Chris Hughes hasn't figured out why the State didn't call him or Sky to testify after admitting they accessed TA's email account after TA was dead and the police were investigating then he's delusional.

We were all wondering how he got access to those emails etc, now we know.

[dizzyp]

Fashion report on the jurors


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@xxxxxxxx @xxxxxx They were dressed the same as usual. Casual.

what? no salmon?

[wasthinking]

Stabby claimed from witness stand under cross from JM that a PPL junior associate saw her finger in a splint, her perfect memory failed her then as she she couldn't recall who it was. What a load of crap.

5 years of the defense deposing, interviewing every single person that ever knew Travis and not one person said Travis could even say they even recalled him raising his voice, never mind being abusive physically.

Alyce Laviolette should forever be remembered as an apologist, a liar and member of the hall of shame!




The BMW or possibly hacking his bank accounts? Could also be the taping of the May 10th phone call without his knowledge. E know he caught her hacking his email because of the one he sent to himself, essentially saying "You're busted, I know you're hacking my my account", knowing she would read it

If Chris Hughes hasn't figured out why the State didn't call him or Sky to testify after admitting they accessed TA's email account after TA was dead and the police were investigating then he's delusional.

We were all wondering how he got access to those emails etc, now we know.

Agree - Chris does sound like he might be denying a few things himself or is really clueless gullible. The bank stuff, I think we'll never know and that the financial witness was only going to verify the bank charges on the bank statement. Far less than our sleuthing minds were hoping for. WTH is wrong with them, why didn't they let us investigate this for them ;)


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[BreachofTrust]

They just said on HLN that the prosecution turned down a life sentence offer from the defense. I thought the defense offered up murder 2? I don't remember hearing about the life sentence offer. Do y'all?

[dizzyp]

just now a lawyer and a Judge claim the defense offered pre-trial plead to 1st degree murder/ LWOP

I'm pretty sure JA offered a plea to 2nd degree murder... right?

[wasthinking]

what? no salmon?

There was some on there, but I ignore him when he goes into that. Here's the good stuff -

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[BreachofTrust]

And Judge Karen on HLN said specifically that the prosecution turned down a murder 1 life sentence. They want the death penalty. I don't remember that offer.

[wasthinking]

They just said on HLN that the prosecution turned down a life sentence offer from the defense. I thought the defense offered up murder 2? I don't remember hearing about the life sentence offer. Do y'all?

just now a lawyer and a Judge claim the defense offered pre-trial plead to 1st degree murder/ LWOP

I'm pretty sure JA offered a plea to 2nd degree murder... right?

sigh HLN is always so out of touch with reality UGH
JA offered 2nd degree in her motion that included blackmail if the state didn't take the offer (they weren't answering her communications lol ) that she'd ruin Travis, his family, friends, marriages ... anyone the dirty little bitch could lie about.

[ShellJett]

82,000 Text & Emails and not one mentioned a bruise or apology. Then we have a self proclaimed Professional Photographer who claims abuse without one photo of evidence?

A self proclaimed Professional Photographer who didn't have the one person, Matt McCartney, she claimed saw the supposed bruises on her neck take a photograph of them and keep them for her?

Her entire story is a lie and made up in jail where she probably gleaned details from other people who may have suffered actual abuse and wove into her story with the help of Alyce Laviolette.,

What really irritates me is that she took a picture of her index finger supposedly after she cut it at work. Like you said, she took pictures of everything, and to me, no photos of her "injuries" from TA means no DV. I never believed self-defense regardless of anything she said or did. This whole story reeks of the same shit that oozes from her every time she opens her mouth. Don't get me started about her mouth and the way she moves her tongue over her teeth! Ugh.

[Jem]

They got that wrong, they were offered Murder 2. HLN are dumbasses.