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Thread: Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

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    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    Okay, since it's been brought up...

    The ME's report was not a 'typo', folks. Any time there is a wound or abnormality noted in an autopsy it is described in detail. If the dura mater had been torn the dimensions, exact location and characteristics of the tear would have been noted just like with all the other wounds. Noting "the dura mater was intact" was not a typo or a matter of checking the wrong box on the form. And for Dr. Hunky to look at the jury with those wide innocent eyes and say "oops, I hadn't noticed...must have been a typographical error" absolutely floored me. How stupid does he think those jurors are?

    And I noticed Mr. Martinez backed right off the whole subject today...not one mention of 'frontal lobe' or 'immediate incapacitation' anywhere to be found, was there?
    I think that people are failing to realize that, yes folks, typos occur. I doubt the doctor typed the report with his own two hands. Humans fuck up when typing documents. The wound trajectory, anatomically, speaks for itself. The bullet HAD to travel through the brain. Unless Mr Alexander was missing a portion of his brain.

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    Brillig- I respectfully have to disagree with you when you say the justice system favors the defendant. I happen to think the American justice system is pretty darn good and I think many people work very hard to maintain it.
    Jodi has gotten a fair trial with competent counsel, but it doesn't always work out that way. I think their is a bias in this country when it comes to the victims of the crime. When a child is murdered or a victim is considered a contributing member of society (successful, religious, wealthy), the public demands justice. But when the victims are considered "bad", we either don't take an interest or the media doesn't advertise.
    I am not asking you to agree with me, but I would ask you to think about it.
    Would we be watching if Travis was an unemployed heroin addict? Would we be screaming for Jodi's head on a plate if she was a prostitute and Travis was her pimp?
    Again, no disrespect meant.

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    Lol @ 'Nurmi practicing in front of the mirror as we speak'. Yeah, he's flapping that chicken wing too.

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    Jenny posed her psycho My Twinn doll Jodi in a “sad” position and pulled the string that drops her head and makes her look like she’s crying behind curtains of hair.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    wth is wrong w/ hln - i just looked and they have a band!!!!!
    For serious? WTF?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AgathaAppleswine View Post
    Oh for crying out loud. He said in his report that the anterior fossa was penetrated. That means that the area housing the frontal lobes was penetrated. You cannot have that be penetrated unless the dura mater was also penetrated. His medical report had a mistake, but it's not like he didn't talk about the gunshot wound and describe it in other areas of the report.

    Nice try though.
    AND, a gunshot wound, especially an unexpected one (and he looks pretty relaxed in that last body shot) would certainly have incapacitated or greatly disoriented him, for SURE. Watch ballistics demos of how a bullet travels through objects, likes heads and brains and stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnieBelle View Post
    I think that people are failing to realize that, yes folks, typos occur. I doubt the doctor typed the report with his own two hands. Humans fuck up when typing documents. The wound trajectory, anatomically, speaks for itself. The bullet HAD to travel through the brain. Unless Mr Alexander was missing a portion of his brain.
    And people are forgetting the rest of the ME's report, where he mentions the path of the bullet, and where there was damage. Quite clearly the bullet penetrated the skull. It IS in the medical examiner's report. People just want to ignore it in order to try to prop the defense up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    For serious? WTF?
    some guy said his wife was a "trial addict" and told him to write a song... "The Jodi Arias Song" I didn't have the stomach to listen...

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    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    And I noticed Mr. Martinez backed right off the whole subject today...not one mention of 'frontal lobe' or 'immediate incapacitation' anywhere to be found, was there?
    Because he is saving it for his final argument. To counter the defense bringing it up. Wait and see.

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    I find his language and mentality coarse, especially for an attorney. A lawyer works with words like a builder works with bricks. His analogies are half-formed or needlessly obscure (wildebeast? how about 'stampede' so they are sure to understand). He often launches into a sentence he can't complete without turning to passive voice or awkward wordings. He overemphasizes the few five dollar words he uses and fumbles the subsequent words. He's also way too preoccupied with the dirty aspects of their sex life.
    I loved the wildebeest reference! It was full of whimsy.

    I also don't find him coarse or awkward, and keep in mind, Juan is usually working without notes. I find his delivery much smoother and more refined than Nurmi's endless, painful 'aaaaannnnnnnddddds' or Jenny's shrill stumbling. I think Juan is masterful. But to each their own, obviously. clearly your preferences differ.

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    Sorry my quotes are going screwy & I lost the first bit -The xray, the bullet trajectory inside the skull, the hole in the skull, and the "landing" spot of the bullet (in the cheek) -- as well as the lack of blood in the head/face supports the idea (for me) that the shot came last.[/QUOTE]

    That's very possible, but didn't we also have members here with professional experience say they'd been surprised by the lack of bleeding from gunshot wounds (possibly to the head, but I can't remember for sure & can't be bothered hunting down the post). The woman I saw shot in the head didn't seem to bleed much, although admittedly I was more focused at the time on locking us into our glass fishbowl of an office so he couldn't come after anyone else. There wasn't much left on the pavers in the courtyard after the ambo's took her, so maybe it's true? At least in some cases?

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    Quote Originally Posted by coconut View Post
    I find his language and mentality coarse, especially for an attorney. A lawyer works with words like a builder works with bricks. His analogies are half-formed or needlessly obscure (wildebeast? how about 'stampede' so they are sure to understand). He often launches into a sentence he can't complete without turning to passive voice or awkward wordings. He overemphasizes the few five dollar words he uses and fumbles the subsequent words. He's also way too preoccupied with the dirty aspects of their sex life.

    Martinez talks and acts more like a cop than a slick lawyer. Probably because he hangs out with cops and has that mentality. He would be better served to use simpler arguments and avoid contrived phrasings.



    The excessive BOOMS! from today have woken a sleeping beast in the distant waters of The Sea of Japan.

    Nurmzilla. He will rise and wreak havoc.

    Jodi and her attorneys are the ones who made their sex lives a front and center issue, not the prosecution. Not only did they make it a huge issue, but they have also used that in an attempt to smear TA's reputation. So what is the prosecution supposed to do with that? Ignore it?

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    [QUOTE=Brillig;3407971]Jodi ruins everything...

    Fuck her, think of Travis when you see a rainbow.

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    [QUOTE=TMY1;3408578]
    Quote Originally Posted by Brillig View Post
    Jodi ruins everything...

    Fuck her, think of Travis when you see a rainbow.
    YES! I agree! ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    wth is wrong w/ hln - i just looked and they have a band!!!!!
    That is fucked up!

    Maybe Jean Legrand will do a song!

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    Today in closing arguments, when JM was talking about Jodi saying she returned the gas can to the same Salinas Walmart she purchased it from and Nurmi objected saying it wasn't in evidence. I have a feeling this will come up in his closing tomorrow.
    Jodi DID say on the stand to Martinez on cross or follow up that she returned it to the same Walmart. Here's a video that breaks down the whole gas can issue:


    Also thought it was interesting that at that point in time, JM put up on the screen the Washington Mutual statement. Right there is the evidence of the lie about using Priceline.com to reserve the rental car (to save money in Redding, CA). Instead it came directly from Budget. The priceline.com purchase was for airfare to go down for the memorial service.

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    Ha! The lady with the Martinez autographed walking stick is on the HLN panel

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRiRS-XWYTg...starting roughly from 21:40 JM is gruelling Jodi about how when she gets a bee in her bonnet she has to immediately go and confront whoever it is that's pissed her off. JM at this point recalls a time back in August where Jodi did the exact same thing to Travis (ie. went and confronted him). And thinking she was correcting JM (who was actually referring to the incident of her peering into his window) she inadvertently slips out with "no it was in JUNE". This is the exact moment when Jodi lets slip the TRUTH as to why she went to see Travis that night. It wasn't for some romp in the hay, and he WASN'T expecting her, she went there with a gun to confront him over the Cancun trip!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgathaAppleswine View Post
    And people are forgetting the rest of the ME's report, where he mentions the path of the bullet, and where there was damage. Quite clearly the bullet penetrated the skull. It IS in the medical examiner's report. People just want to ignore it in order to try to prop the defense up.
    And as the judge instructed, you can believe none, part, or all of any testimony of a witness. But this witness not only has his report (where said typo is located) but the physical evidence of the crime scene photos and autopsy photos to back up his opinion. It is not evidence, like ALV gave....which is based on opinion that cannot be backed up with physical evidence. I am fairly sure that Dr. Horn didnt even need to say a word for anybody to figure out what happened to this poor guy. I am just amazed that some people can hold their thumb towards the sky, and convince themselves that maybe the sun doesn't exist!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freaktab View Post
    That is fucked up!

    Maybe Jean Legrand will do a song!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brillig View Post
    I loved the wildebeest reference! It was full of whimsy.
    I know what a wildebeast is. So do you. But he meant to say "herd of wildebeasts stampeding" but the only word we got was wildebeast as he stumbled through the imagery.

    So, anyway... boom.

    Here is a quote from today. 9:29 in this video...

    "So stop pointing a finger at him and stop wagging it as if somehow being a Mormon precludes you from being human. If somehow that's something bad that he did it because she's just as Mormon as he is. So if there's fingers, so if there are fingers to be pointed it should be pointed at the same at each other because if one's conduct is bad then the other is just as bad."

    Seriously? That makes Wilmott look like a wordsmith.



    There was another one on that video, I'm too lazy to find it exactly, but he was trying to say that the truth is easy to remember. The words that came out were "When you are telling the truth, ain't got not, bumble bumble..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freaktab View Post
    Brillig- I respectfully have to disagree with you when you say the justice system favors the defendant. I happen to think the American justice system is pretty darn good and I think many people work very hard to maintain it.
    Jodi has gotten a fair trial with competent counsel, but it doesn't always work out that way. I think their is a bias in this country when it comes to the victims of the crime. When a child is murdered or a victim is considered a contributing member of society (successful, religious, wealthy), the public demands justice. But when the victims are considered "bad", we either don't take an interest or the media doesn't advertise.
    I am not asking you to agree with me, but I would ask you to think about it.
    Would we be watching if Travis was an unemployed heroin addict? Would we be screaming for Jodi's head on a plate if she was a prostitute and Travis was her pimp?
    Again, no disrespect meant.

    I actually agree with much of what you have stated.

    I agree that the American justice system is excellent, and people work hard to maintain it. My comments were not meant in any way to knock the system. I was defending it. I do think the system favors the accused, but I think it is designed that way, and I do not think it is a bad thing. As Benjamin Franklin said, "it is better than 100 guilty men go free than that one innocent person should suffer". That principle is a cornerstone of our criminal justice system, as well it should be.

    The point I was trying to make is that even though many posters think the defendant has too many rights, that there are valid reasons why the system is set up that way, important reasons.

    I agree that the public is more interested in cases where the defendant or victim is rich, or famous, or attractive, or especially tragic, or where the details of the crime are titillating. That is human nature. But what the media or public is most interested in is not what determines who does or does not get a fair trial. It is more a reflection of our culture than of the judicial system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post


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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    Today in closing arguments, when JM was talking about Jodi saying she returned the gas can to the same Salinas Walmart she purchased it from and Nurmi objected saying it wasn't in evidence. I have a feeling this will come up in his closing tomorrow.
    Jodi DID say on the stand to Martinez on cross or follow up that she returned it to the same Walmart. Here's a video that breaks down the whole gas can issue:


    Also thought it was interesting that at that point in time, JM put up on the screen the Washington Mutual statement. Right there is the evidence of the lie about using Priceline.com to reserve the rental car (to save money in Redding, CA). Instead it came directly from Budget. The priceline.com purchase was for airfare to go down for the memorial service.
    I was a little bit worried about this gas can issue, but after seeing your video now I dont have any doubts that she accepts she returned it to the SAME walmart (minute 3:48), so if tomorrow they attempt to even mention that she returned it to other Walmart that will further prove he is lying

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    Quote Originally Posted by brumby View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRiRS-XWYTg...starting roughly from 21:40 JM is gruelling Jodi about how when she gets a bee in her bonnet she has to immediately go and confront whoever it is that's pissed her off. JM at this point recalls a time back in August where Jodi did the exact same thing to Travis (ie. went and confronted him). And thinking she was correcting JM (who was actually referring to the incident of her peering into his window) she inadvertently slips out with "no it was in JUNE". This is the exact moment when Jodi lets slip the TRUTH as to why she went to see Travis that night. It wasn't for some romp in the hay, and he WASN'T expecting her, she went there with a gun to confront him over the Cancun trip!
    I think she was possibly talking about June 2007 when he caught her cheating on her on his text messages.

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