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Thread: Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImBatman! View Post
    Huge fav guys....and I I have never asked this before cause I love a good meme but can we post them in the appropriate thread. I noticed when they post it slows the forum.
    You're right. I deleted the jpg I posted.

    They do seem to slow things down, and I expect the servers here will be thrashed over the next few days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    i gotta admit - i wish we could find out what was the final thing jodi did to set off travis to send that email since that what seems to have set off this tragic course off events, i am wondering if maybe she told travis she was pregnant?? wasn't there some thing said some where about her being pregnant and losing it?
    I thought a while ago why didn't she purposely get pregnant, or say it to him. My mom (who is into this case) said "she wouldn't do that. It's all about herself. She wouldn't want a baby." I agreed, and I think to Stabby she either said it, or was like a day late that month and claimed she was pregnant to trap him, since nothing else was working. He was moving on.

    But man, that email Travis sent her was SPOT on!!! He was done with her. Unfortunate for him this bitch didn't do the normal thing most of us do with a broken heart. He didn't think she was capable of slaughtering him.

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    I don't get this judge at all. The whole purpose of allowing the counter-rebuttal witness was to address new information -- i.e., the BPD. The Defense already had their crack at claiming DV and PTSD, by TWO of their own witnesses, as well as the ability to cross-exam the prosecution expert, Dr. D. Defense doesn't like how that went, no kidding. That doesn't mean they get to keep calling witnesses to claim the same (disproven) thing over and over and over. Their case was rested. Enough.


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    Can't figure out what is aggravating me more.....this completely inane line of questioning or Peg Bundy's bald spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oh right View Post
    JSS said they would finish today when there was only one more witness. Why are you holding her to her word now?
    If she doesn't, the defense will drag this out indefinitely......and the longer it goes, the more chance of mistrial. She has set the limit and she needs to stick with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBlonde View Post
    I don't get this judge at all. The whole purpose of allowing the counter-rebuttal witness was to address new information -- i.e., the BPD. The Defense already had their crack at claiming DV and PTSD, by TWO of their own witnesses, as well as the ability to cross-exam the prosecution expert, Dr. D. Defense doesn't like how that went, no kidding. That doesn't mean they get to keep calling witnesses to claim the same (disproven) thing over and over and over. Their case was rested. Enough.
    Judge Stephens sucks, and this surrebuttal nonsense never should have been allowed.

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    Anyone with low self esteem would not have acted that way on cross exam by JM and wouldn't be setting there acting like she is right now, so smug and telling JW how to run the show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alyoop View Post
    yep, waitress with a good camera.
    That Travis probably bought her! How could she afford it skipping around from job to job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    A damn miracle is more like it. motherly Stephens hasn't been able to organize and control her courtroom in 4 months.
    Ito redux.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeamRenew View Post
    Judge Stephens sucks, and this surrebuttal nonsense never should have been allowed.
    It sucks. But wouldn't it be worse to have to try this case all over again because of an appeal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freaktab View Post
    Do i sense... Some fan fiction?
    fanFRICTION!
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    Quote Originally Posted by alyoop View Post
    you and sneakers are amazing at finding this stuff! the lessons learned article pretty much sums this whole thing up. It totally saddens me that domestic violence and PTSD, which are so very real, have taken such a beating during this freakshow defense.
    I am also saddened and a little freaked at the the law. I knew so little. and yet, I still feel I know so little.
    I also did not know that I could feel such sympathy for someone I don't know. I feel such sadness watching Travis' family.
    I also didn't know what hatred I could feel for another. Stabby makes my insides turn.
    I also understand the defense has to present an argument for their client. However, why wasn't it possible to present self defense without slaughtering Travis again? That part I will never understand. The way in which they present this case has made me dislike them, the law, the process, everything!
    I am not sure how I feel about all this psych stuff atm. It scares me to think of the repercussions of these Dr's testimony on mental health in general. You just go to the one who says what you want to hear? IDK, I feel a little bummed after the 5 day break that this tragedy seems unending.
    Why am I letting ANY of this get to me? oh yeah, because its real. And surreal. and its crazy! and dammit, I feel such pain for Travis' family!
    Life will go on, and there will be more freakshows like this one, I am sure. But it really colors my glasses about what is common sense and what is LAW
    I know I have made a lot of posts today and I am determined to cut them down, but I just had to respond to this one.

    Quite a few years ago, I caught a documentary called Paradise Lost and it was all about these 3 young boys that were supposedly murdered by 3 whacked-out, satanic-worshipping teen-agers. Over the years, I really became more than a little obsessed with the case and the defendants who are now known as The West Memphis 3. I would urge anyone and everyone to really look at that case for a good example of all kinds of law fuckery from both sides.

    I don't mean to bring up another case in the JA/TA thread, but I want to show you that good and bad examples of our laws are all around us. IMO, just that we can share our opinions and theories in this forum is awesome. Even more incredible, is that a case like this can bring many ordinary people (like us) together for other good things. Maybe supporting a DV shelter, volunteering time, or even giving a little cash to the Alexander family.... This is what is important.

    Not trying to soapbox here, but that is Travis' legacy.... Remember what he wrote in his blog the year he died: Something like "love more, give more, learn more, etc"

    That is what we get to do. That is pretty fucking cool, if you ask me and most of us would never know if it weren't for this case.

    Sorry, didn't mean to go off on a tangent and I do respect all of the opinions in this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mochachino View Post
    That Travis probably bought her! How could she afford it skipping around from job to job.
    It WAS implied she was turnin tricks...
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    What's with all the big chuckles in court? I don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mochachino View Post
    That Travis probably bought her! How could she afford it skipping around from job to job.
    I think she flirted money out of older men. Look at the guy who "loaned" her 800 dollars for her emergency trip to Mesa. He says she paid him back, but I don't believe that. She had no money; she barely worked; her car was being repossessed. I think he probably just said that because he didn't want to be sucked into the case; not that I could blame him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by deanna1247 View Post
    Anyone with low self esteem would not have acted that way on cross exam by JM and wouldn't be setting there acting like she is right now, so smug and telling JW how to run the show.
    Yep. I'm confident that the jury will realize this. I doubt they're even awake right now during this snorefest put up by the defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Where do they find these people? Stabby did the same thing on the stand and she's even done it from the defense table.



    http://wildabouttrial.com/videos/jod...ve-stream.html

    Stabby giving TA's family section the side eye


    Do you know who the older lady at the end of the Alexanders row is? They showed her when they panned down and showed the whole family and Deanna there, she was all the way to the right. I also see that Chris and Sky Hughes are sitting right behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    It sucks. But wouldn't it be worse to have to try this case all over again because of an appeal?
    You have a point.

    However, I think that when "the defense rests", the defense should rest rather than fruitlessly add more crap that's inconsequential after the fact. However, that's just yet another unprofessional move by Arias and her team of hacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elamir View Post
    What's with all the big chuckles in court? I don't get it.
    Dr. "Gassy"

    1.) Let out a big burp whiile testifying, right into the mic

    2.) Couldn't figure out how to work, fumbled with, the touch screen computer

    3.) Knocked water all over the witness stand
    "I'm not talking about a person, I'm talking about the defendant." JM

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    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    Really. On the 48 Hours interview she did just weeks after her arrest she introduces herself, quote: "I'm Jodi Arias. I'm an Artist and a Photographer". Um...actually, you're a waitress...who copies pictures from magazines...
    Yup. The photographer label plays to her delusions and sense of importance. The press added a whole new layer of satisfaction to the slaughter for Arias by fulfilling her dream of being called 'an artist'. It is infuriating.

    As for being a waitress, it is employment. I did this work part time for a while when studying at university. It was the hardest physical work I have ever done in my life. Arias does seem to have worked consistently from a young age. Multiple jobs too. Despite that, she has often been criticised over work. I must have missed the many gaps. Has anyone posted a CV for her? I am interested in the perception and the reality. There are many valid reasons for being scathing of Arias. Is her work one?
    "Ms Arias do you have a problem with your memory? " ....
    ... "Sometimes I lose my memory when mean old men are yellin' at me and grillin' at me and asking me so many questions all the god damn time"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Samuels did the MCMI on her &,in answering jury questions,stated he DID diagnose her with "Personality Disorder (other, unspecified)

    Geffner obviously not aware of Stabby's suicidal ideations or threat to kill her herself if Nurmi left her.
    I have seen it said before that she threatened suicide if Nurmi left, can you point me to where you found this? I mean why???

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    A damn miracle is more like it. motherly Stephens hasn't been able to organize and control her courtroom in 4 months.
    I don't understand why they would give this important DP case to a first time judge??! She's being overly cautious for appellate reasons, but they should have gotten a judge much more experienced with a DP case of this magnatude.

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    I was unable to watch this morning, but did scan the board every once in awhile. JW can yammer on all she wants, Martinez is only going to need about 5 minutes on cross exam to refute all this crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dianalyn View Post
    I have seen it said before that she threatened suicide if Nurmi left, can you point me to where you found this? I mean why???
    Samuels said it on the stand in open court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alyoop View Post
    you and sneakers are amazing at finding this stuff! the lessons learned article pretty much sums this whole thing up. It totally saddens me that domestic violence and PTSD, which are so very real, have taken such a beating during this freakshow defense.
    I am also saddened and a little freaked at the the law. I knew so little. and yet, I still feel I know so little.
    I also did not know that I could feel such sympathy for someone I don't know. I feel such sadness watching Travis' family.
    I also didn't know what hatred I could feel for another. Stabby makes my insides turn.
    I also understand the defense has to present an argument for their client. However, why wasn't it possible to present self defense without slaughtering Travis again? That part I will never understand. The way in which they present this case has made me dislike them, the law, the process, everything!
    I am not sure how I feel about all this psych stuff atm. It scares me to think of the repercussions of these Dr's testimony on mental health in general. You just go to the one who says what you want to hear? IDK, I feel a little bummed after the 5 day break that this tragedy seems unending.
    Why am I letting ANY of this get to me? oh yeah, because its real. And surreal. and its crazy! and dammit, I feel such pain for Travis' family!
    Life will go on, and there will be more freakshows like this one, I am sure. But it really colors my glasses about what is common sense and what is LAW
    Blaming the victim is an age old tactic. It continues because, juries have devalued lives in the past. How can murdering a child in any way find loop holes, how can slaughtering a homeless person enter in vs a 'good citizen' etc. There is also anti DP supporters and that movement is strong. Then we know not everyone operates with common sense so teams inject into impressionable minds the unspoken theory that some how, this life wasn't a great loss aka deserved what they got. LAW isn't about the truth and the whole truth, we don't let in most of the real truths. LAW is anything but a 'fair' game. It's who can play it the best by manipulating it wins points. sigh .. Every profession has low life assholes because they are made up of humans and there is no freedom anywhere from that kind of corrpution.
    It needs people willing to work hard for change, to fight for the things they believe in and not sit quietly on the sidelines. Trust me, that can take years of emotional exhausting work. Few step up to the plate.
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