Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

[wasthinking]

Objections can and do happen during closing arguments. If either Attorney brings up facts not in evidence the other will object. I have seen it countless times. Unless AZ is different, I expect objections and possibly a sidebar or two with this bunch.

thanks Shell, I've seen it in reading appeals and seen cases remanded back or appeals denied on these issues. It seems it is labeled 'prosecutorial misconduct' if the offense is by the State, and if def does it, they get admonished at the time is about all from my interpretation. Corrections of anything I get wrong are welcome. lol

Most seem to be.. say that if the prosecutor were to throw out a statement about something not in evidence, the Def must object to preserve the error for appels, or on appeal it appears without objecting, the def thereby had 'waived' right to complain about the error.

[poppym]

I don't think he went to the sink to look at his injuries. I think that they struggled, he managed to break away from Jodi, and he went to the sink for a very simple reason.

He's disoriented, in shock, and losing blood pretty quickly. His mouth and nose are probably beginning to fill with blood, and he feels ill. Jodi is blocking the way to the toilet, and the sink was probably closer anyway. So he goes to the sink to cough up the blood, because in his mind he's hoping the attack is over.

Vignette: I think this is where Jody's "body slam" story comes into play. They had struggled over the knife, and Travis knocked it out of her hands, maybe even pushed her so that she fell. She may have been stunned or winded, and he gets to the sink, not really thinking of the danger of turning his back on her. Blood loss, shock, and the whole dying process can do that to a person.

Sad thing is, Jodi is trying to claim that Travis attacked her and made her mind scramble.

The real truth is that the only person who wasn't able to think or act in a logical way was Travis, because he was the one being attacked. He was the one who was so severely injured. And he is the one who died a tortured, painful death.

Yes! And that HE was the one who was likely attempting to run down the hallway and flee!

[zeebee]

I do not base my mistrust of Dr. Geffner on internet stories of his past. I base them on the fact that he would testify on Jodi's behalf knowing all of the testing done based on lies. If he takes the stand and shows that HIS test were done on a different story then yes I am open to that but since that would totally throw the 2 prev defense experts even further under the bus, I don't think this will be the case. I would love to be a fly on the wall to hear the advice that he is getting from AL and Dr. Samuels regarding Juan Martinez. Also i have to wonder if this guy is the do all end all, why not put him on the stand first? Just my opinion, (and yes I know what they say about opinions!) I believe Juan will finish him off just like he did the other 2. What I am really waiting for are closing arguments!

Mistrust is one thing. Full on frontal attack is another.

I certainly understand mistrusting an expert who is testifying for the defense. Believe me, I am giving him the side eye too. But I want to see what his testimony is before I make any judgments.

[wasthinking]

During the mitigation phase what type of information can either side bring up? Are there things that are too prejudicial? Can the defense team still disrupt proceedings on a daily basis with their motion of the day or will we get relief from at least that? Who gives impact statements, only family or do friends speak out also?

Thanks as always to those who are willing to share their time and knowledge with me, it is appreciated more than you know and in ways you can't know.

You should expect more motions from the def, that's their job. It isn't just for trial, but to preserve issues for appeals, standard practices.

Rule 39. Victims' rights
http://www.arizonacrimelaws.com/39_1.htma. Definitions.

1. Victim. As used in this rule, a ?victim? is defined as a person against whom a criminal offense as defined by 13-4401(6) has allegedly been committed, or the spouse, parent, lawful representative, or child of someone killed or incapacitated by the alleged criminal offense, except where the spouse, parent, lawful representative, or child is also the accused.


mitigation
http://www.azcourts.gov/ccsguide/Mit...umstances.aspx

[poppym]

It has been driving me nuts, since to first time I saw those photos. I think it's probably because it is a close up of a smaller area, and there aren't any reference points to put it in proper perspective.

Annie I think it's his side. i.e, they rolled him on his side to take this photograph. The upper part of the photo looks like the fold of his underarm, and to the left, it looks like part of his forearm in the shot. I imagined he had been rolled on his side with his arm bent at the elbow to take the shot. I'm just guessing of course, because I couldn't find an exact match to that blood staining on the chest photo's before they cleaned the body.

[poppym]

Not only was she the star, she really looked like she thought she could win an Oscar for her performance. Phony crying, evidenced by the hair curtain so nobody could see; embellishing on details because she thought the cops would never check on small details (such as the Christmas stuff in the attic) to make it more convincing. Her juvenile comments, e.g., Ryan is full of crap. I dyed my hair in March.; I just shot him and he's going to be pissed. Who the fuck thinks their victim is going to be pissed???? You know damn well she thought she was being "real" and not contrived. Her bitchiness toward Martinez when answering a question, e.g., I dunno (shrugs shoulder, smirks, looks at jury). It was quite the performance, but it wasn't as brilliant as she thought it was. She spent five years coming up with a story, but the devil is in the details. She's convinced people to do her bidding for so long, I think she got a little over confident in thinking her carefully planned story was going to fly. I sooooo look forward to the look on her face when that jury DOES convict her. I bet she won't be smiling and saying cheese.

Ha Ha! So true! And don't forget "I came to at the Hoover Dam with blood on my hands and thought Oh Crap!"

[wasthinking]

I do not base my mistrust of Dr. Geffner on internet stories of his past. I base them on the fact that he would testify on Jodi's behalf knowing all of the testing done based on lies. If he takes the stand and shows that HIS test were done on a different story then yes I am open to that but since that would totally throw the 2 prev defense experts even further under the bus, I don't think this will be the case. I would love to be a fly on the wall to hear the advice that he is getting from AL and Dr. Samuels regarding Juan Martinez. Also i have to wonder if this guy is the do all end all, why not put him on the stand first? Just my opinion, (and yes I know what they say about opinions!) I believe Juan will finish him off just like he did the other 2. What I am really waiting for are closing arguments!

data points.
1. Case histories (I don't consider official court files including appeals files 'internet stories)
2. His client is a liar and there is solid evidence he has based his opinions on liars before.
3. Ditto, why not use him in the first place
4. Common sense would suggest as you do, he isn't come in to tear apart ALV and Samuals
5. Deemed a 'hired gun' 'not credible' by previous courts
6. Sneakers links

[faq_q]

Mistrust is one thing. Full on frontal attack is another.

I certainly understand mistrusting an expert who is testifying for the defense. Believe me, I am giving him the side eye too. But I want to see what his testimony is before I make any judgments.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to zeebee again.

My bank is empty

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

Has anyone here seen this? it was posted on the FB page

Jodi copied Dior's advertisement featuring Natalie Portman



http://freeyork.org/fashion/natalie-...-for-miss-dior

But Van Gogh, Monet... Do the loonies at JAII know she's just racing pictures yet?

I started rewatching a bit of her cross exam. This was priceless. Wish whomever created this had included the part where she says the gun was in a holster. I hope the jury asks for a read back of this.

Does anyone know if the jury can ask for a read back of the Jury questions and her responses?

Her pictures creep me out. much like her they have no life in them. They look off somehow... am I the only one who thinks that?

No you're not. Her pictures are like her emotions, she copies them from other people.

Unless he was standing at the sink when she started stabbing him

I think she stabbed in the chest first, the superior vena cava injury. I think she kept stabbing/slashing at him while he was trying to reach the sink. I think the stab wounds to his head came when he was at the sink along with the stab wounds to the back. Sadly, we'll never know.

Being a supporter of JA says at least one of the following three things about you:

1. You have an iq below room temperature
2. You hate men
3. You like to get paid and have no integrity

JAII proves it -- there is not one single exception.

I've said all along that the majority of the "supporters" who post there are sock puppets created by the admin of the site.

*snipped* Here are some pictures, there are more but I don't have time to really dig this morning.

Jodi's "room"

Imagine how pissed off she was to have go back to that drab dreary little life. She thought she'd won the lottery with TA. Nice big house, nice cars to drive, trips, etc. The rage she must have felt as she pulled out of Mesa must have been intense.

Jodi's testimony is that she rented a car to save wear and tear on her own car. Then why drive in excess of a hundred miles to rent a car? That makes no logical sense to me. Also, did she leave her car at the rental place?

She claimed she rented a car to save on fuel as her car was a gas guzzler. She left her car at her brother's home and her sister in law drove her to the rental car place, according to her.

Good Morning everyone

Never having heard a closing argument before I am curious how it will go:
4. Can either party object during closing arguments?
5. Does either party get to speculate or embellish in their arguments or does it have to strictly follow the evidence?
TIA

Are there objections during closing?

Both parties can object during the closing arguments. Expect lot's of "may we approach with sidebars galore" and hope for "over ruled!"

Both parties must stick to the evidence as presented in court.

I dyed my hair in March.

The long involved answer she gave about the process of dyeing her hair herself vs. professionally done and then the contrasting proof of the selfies she took on June 3 after visiting a salon to have it professionally done is striking.

During the mitigation phase what type of information can either side bring up? Are there things that are too prejudicial? Can the defense team still disrupt proceedings on a daily basis with their motion of the day or will we get relief from at least that? Who gives impact statements, only family or do friends speak out also?

Thanks as always to those who are willing to share their time and knowledge with me, it is appreciated more than you know and in ways you can't know.

During mitigation (if we get there) the defense will put on all kinds of witnesses about poor abused Stabby and how her art was one day going to one day hang on the walls of art galleries with Van Gogh's and Monet's.

The State will put on evidence showing her utter lack of remorse, the fact that she lies, lies and then lies some more, and then how her art is really just some jacked up tracings from magazine ads.

Objections can and do happen during closing arguments. If either Attorney brings up facts not in evidence the other will object. I have seen it countless times. Unless AZ is different, I expect objections and possibly a sidebar or two with this bunch.

Expect lot's of objections and sidebars!

[I doubt it]

copied from https://www.facebook.com/Justice4Tra...ocation=stream
REPOST:

What we can expect in the following week/s.

FIRST-DEGREE MURDER :

If the jurors unanimously decide Arias is guilty of first-degree murder, the case would then move to the aggravation phase.

That is the prosecution's chance to present additional evidence that the death was caused in a cruel manner. Arizona law defines it as when the victim suffers physical pain or mental anguish and the defendant knew or should have known that the victim would suffer.

The jury would then deliberate for a second time to determine if the aggravating factor of cruelty is proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

If the jury does not find her guilty of cruelty, the case ends and the judge sets a sentencing date within 30 to 60 days. At the sentencing, the judge decides whether to sentence Arias to natural life in prison or life with parole eligibility after 25 years.

But if the jury decides cruelty is proven beyond a reasonable doubt, the case moves to the sentencing phase.

This is the defense's opportunity to ask the jury for leniency and present evidence to support why Arias should be spared the death penalty. Witnesses may include Arias' friends and family. Arias could also make a statement to the jury.

The jury then deliberates for a third time to determine whether Arias should be sentenced to life or death. Their decision must be unanimous. In the case of a deadlock, a mistrial would be granted and a new jury would be chosen for this phase only.

If the jury votes for the death penalty, Arias would be sentenced immediately and is likely to be sent to death row within hours. If the jury opts for a life sentence, the judge will set a sentencing date within 30 to 60 days and, at that time, will sentence Arias to natural life or life with eligibility for parole after 25 years.

SECOND-DEGREE MURDER :

If the jury rejects first-degree murder but finds her guilty of the lesser charge of second-degree murder, the judge will sentence Arias to no less than 10 years and no more than 22 years in prison.

Arias will get credit for the time she has been incarcerated awaiting trial.

[Rockabillychick]

Imagine how pissed off she was to have go back to that drab dreary little life. She thought she'd won the lottery with TA. Nice big house, nice cars to drive, trips, etc. The rage she must have felt as she pulled out of Mesa must have been intense.

Exactly! I have said that a lot. Look at how he lived and look at how she lived. When she met him she pictured that life for herself. She wasn't about to let someone else have it.

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

Exactly! I have said that a lot. Look at how he lived and look at how she lived. When she met him she pictured that life for herself. She wasn't about to let someone else have it.

I think her rage was building when she pulled out of Mesa in her moving truck. I think she thought about killing TA all of the way back to Yreka.

She was already in deep financial trouble before she met TA. She was putting mortgage payments on her credit card. She was losing her house. Darryl had told her he didn't want any more kids, this after she got the boobies and blonde hair just like his ex wife.

Darryl may not have cheated on her with other women but he didn't want any more kids and he wanted to move to be closer to his son and thereby his ex wife.

To Stabby this must have felt like a huge betrayal. Here was someone else in her life putting either their needs or someone else's needs ahead of what she wanted/needed.

When she felt betrayed by TA after converting to Mormonism, trying to be the perfect whore in the bedroom, moving to Mesa, putting his needs ahead of her own (in her own mind) I think she'd reached the end of her tether.

She felt betrayed by everyone in her romantic life and by her family.

Matt McCartney, dirt bag though he was/is, even called her mother and said she need help. I think this is why Sandy Arias went to AZ in an attempt to help her move back to Yreka.

Another betrayal. She must feel such rage at everyone in her life. Matt McCartney has now betrayed her again by not testifying for her, her "ally, the only one who would never betray her".

When the jury comes back with M1 she'll be put on suicide watch, dressed in a paper nightie, no pencils, no safety razors.

[Freethinker]

I think she has always been able to talk her way out of anything. She may have BPD, but I think she also has sociopathic traits, if she isn't a straight up psychopath.

One of the things that has always bothered me (and fascinated me!) is how easily she lies and how convincing she is. The lies may be obvious (in that they could not possibly be true) but she tells them very well and with great confidence.

I was initially attracted to this case because of the 48 Hours episode. She lied so convincingly in that episode, but it was very clear from the evidence that she was lying.

I think she has been used to doing this, probably her whole life. She thought that she could talk her way out of this one too.

She definitely thought she could lie her way through. Even though she got caught in some lies, I think her smart ass answers and skirting around answers brought the jury to watch and listen closer to what she was saying.

[faq_q]

I think her rage was building when she pulled out of Mesa in her moving truck. I think she thought about killing TA all of the way back to Yreka.

She was already in deep financial trouble before she met TA. She was putting mortgage payments on her credit card. She was losing her house. Darryl had told her he didn't want any more kids, this after she got the boobies and blonde hair just like his ex wife.

Darryl may not have cheated on her with other women but he didn't want any more kids and he wanted to move to be closer to his son and thereby his ex wife.

To Stabby this must have felt like a huge betrayal. Here was someone else in her life putting either their needs or someone else's needs ahead of what she wanted/needed.

When she felt betrayed by TA after converting to Mormonism, trying to be the perfect whore in the bedroom, moving to Mesa, putting his needs ahead of her own (in her own mind) I think she'd reached the end of her tether.

She felt betrayed by everyone in her romantic life and by her family.

Matt McCartney, dirt bag though he was/is, even called her mother and said she need help. I think this is why Sandy Arias went to AZ in an attempt to help her move back to Yreka.

Another betrayal. She must feel such rage at everyone in her life. Matt McCartney has now betrayed her again by not testifying for her, her "ally, the only one who would never betray her".

When the jury comes back with M1 she'll be put on suicide watch, dressed in a paper nightie, no pencils, no safety razors.

I agree totally, the men and sometimes even her family in her eyes always were at fault for not thinking of her first. It's all a manipulation game with her and when she figures it out that it isn't going to work, she gets pissed. I have to think that she knows the jury isn't getting manipulated by her words on the stand and with the 3 less than stellar defense witnesses so far. I wonder if when she does get sentenced and it is for life or DP, she gets up out of the chair, grabs Nurmi's pen and tries to stab one of them with it and claim ineffective council.

[wasthinking]

I think her rage was building when she pulled out of Mesa in her moving truck. I think she thought about killing TA all of the way back to Yreka.

She was already in deep financial trouble before she met TA. She was putting mortgage payments on her credit card. She was losing her house. Darryl had told her he didn't want any more kids, this after she got the boobies and blonde hair just like his ex wife.

Darryl may not have cheated on her with other women but he didn't want any more kids and he wanted to move to be closer to his son and thereby his ex wife.

To Stabby this must have felt like a huge betrayal. Here was someone else in her life putting either their needs or someone else's needs ahead of what she wanted/needed.

When she felt betrayed by TA after converting to Mormonism, trying to be the perfect whore in the bedroom, moving to Mesa, putting his needs ahead of her own (in her own mind) I think she'd reached the end of her tether.

She felt betrayed by everyone in her romantic life and by her family.

Matt McCartney, dirt bag though he was/is, even called her mother and said she need help. I think this is why Sandy Arias went to AZ in an attempt to help her move back to Yreka.

Another betrayal. She must feel such rage at everyone in her life. Matt McCartney has now betrayed her again by not testifying for her, her "ally, the only one who would never betray her".

When the jury comes back with M1 she'll be put on suicide watch, dressed in a paper nightie, no pencils, no safety razors.

That is one time even her own words plus her journal show how upset she was. Except her lie trying to say TA welcomed her for a week at his house. I'm pretty sure I remember a friend telling it like TA didn't want her there. She was turning a murder in her mind all the way back to Yreka.
Be interesting to know who made her give the Futon back, I bet it's someone she's tried to throw dirt at in the trail along the way.

Sneakers, do you remember seeing the report of police surveillence right before they arrested her? The box of bullets found at her mother's.
Any idea where that might be pls?

[Ian 1]

Exactly! I have said that a lot. Look at how he lived and look at how she lived. When she met him she pictured that life for herself. She wasn't about to let someone else have it.

It's not fresh in my mind, but as I am now recollecting, when Arias left Mesa for Yreka at the end of April, it took her three tries. It was on one of them that Travis gave her the bird--like she was never going to get out of there. The first time, I think, was when she wrecked the BMW. So she came back for a few days to torment him. Then she left again in the UHaul, (that was parked around the corner.) Then she came back for another goodbye. The third time is when she finally skedaddled--but not for long. I think that's what happened on June 4. She left, Travis went up to take a shower, she came back and played picture games; saw she wasn't getting anywhere, went into a rage and killed Travis. I don't think Travis consented to the picture taking session. He permitted it. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Obviously, Arias was obsessed and had a very hard time separating herself from Travis. It was her well-established pattern to use a zillion phony and 'loving reasons' to be or to remain in his presence--totally humiliating herself before she finally snapped. That's called stalking last time I checked.

[blighted star]

[QUOTE=AgathaAppleswine;3402681]I snipped the length of the posts because I wanted to focus on this part, because people seem to think that because people can survive a gunshot to the head that it somehow lessens the horror of what Jodi did.


No-one here has ever suggested there's ANYTHING that lessens the horror of what she chose to do to Travis & I'm confused that you would think that? I can only assume you missed a page? Everyone involved in discussing other cases of brain injury, particularly Phineas Gage, has said we believe she IS guilty. We bring this up not to prove her innocence but to support the argument that SOMEONE should've used scientific modelling to prevent the possibility of confusion over the issue.

If posters here have a vague recollection of people being conscious & capable of movement & speech following a penetrating brain injury, then chances are, a juror or two will also. It surely wouldn't have been a difficult thing to have a decisive explanation VISIBLE in court. If we can do it down here for our little hick town trials, surely the prosecution could've managed it for something this high profile?



ETA it's 5am (how did that happenSCREAM)& I've not explained this well at all, it was a 2part argument, before anyone wastes their time telling me a visual model won't help, let me get some sleep & explain myself better. Sorry, sleep deprivation is making me whacky

[blighted star]

Thankyou zeebee, I stupidly assumed it'd be .05, like it is down here, or .08 as I've heard it is some parts. I try not to assume. It usually gives me a good bite when I do. So having said that, my comment was anything BUT fair & I will edit the original, or maybe even delete it, because you're quite right, with laws like that he may not have done anything wrong at all. My apologies to Juror 8, his friends & family if they ever readtis thread.

[wasthinking]

@ Sneakers
I started rewatching a bit of her cross exam. This was priceless. Wish whomever created this had included the part where she says the gun was in a holster. I hope the jury asks for a read back of this.

Does anyone know if the jury can ask for a read back of the Jury questions and her responses?


Jury questions and answers are part of the transcript so I would think they could.

I still say JM missed to highlight for the jury a very important point when she claimed not once (to Flores) but again under oath the only hand gun she's ever seen has a long barrel. Then Ma'am, you didn't find and see a short barrel .25 in Oct 2007!
Busted but an important bust imo because any point for putting the gun in her hand is a premed point!

[wasthinking]

It's not fresh in my mind, but as I am now recollecting, when Arias left Mesa for Yreka at the end of April, it took her three tries. It was on one of them that Travis gave her the bird--like she was never going to get out of there. The first time, I think, was when she wrecked the BMW. So she came back for a few days to torment him. Then she left again in the UHaul, (that was parked around the corner.) Then she came back for another goodbye. The third time is when she finally skedaddled--but not for long. I think that's what happened on June 4. She left, Travis went up to take a shower, she came back and played picture games; saw she wasn't getting anywhere, went into a rage and killed Travis. I don't think Travis consented to the picture taking session. He permitted it. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Obviously, Arias was obsessed and had a very hard time separating herself from Travis. It was her well-established pattern to use a zillion phony and 'loving reasons' to be or to remain in his presence--totally humiliating herself before she finally snapped. That's called stalking last time I checked.

She was lying on those stories too at various times.

JA: I moved not sure more toward middle of April, maybe the 9 suppose to be the 1 st but stayed 4/5 days with Travis.

On the stand when JM had TA's text of April 6 stressingme out on a basis is getting freaking old
JA: yes I think I was still on the road on that date

[Jillee]

I'll reserve my opinions of this sur-rebuttal witness until Wed. Maybe he's taken into account her many MANY lies and will dx accordingly.
The best thing he can do for the defense is to say it like it is. If he says she has many disorders, that might garner sympathy towards the defendant. Maybe that's what he's going to do. Say that she has all of these mental disorders and can't help herself. That would be a real twist!

[wasthinking]

Featuring the Smart ass Star * Stabby Stalker

[DenverClipper]

copied from https://www.facebook.com/Justice4Tra...ocation=stream
REPOST:

What we can expect in the following week/s.

FIRST-DEGREE MURDER :

If the jurors unanimously decide Arias is guilty of first-degree murder, the case would then move to the aggravation phase.

That is the prosecution's chance to present additional evidence that the death was caused in a cruel manner. Arizona law defines it as when the victim suffers physical pain or mental anguish and the defendant knew or should have known that the victim would suffer.

The jury would then deliberate for a second time to determine if the aggravating factor of cruelty is proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

If the jury does not find her guilty of cruelty, the case ends and the judge sets a sentencing date within 30 to 60 days. At the sentencing, the judge decides whether to sentence Arias to natural life in prison or life with parole eligibility after 25 years.

But if the jury decides cruelty is proven beyond a reasonable doubt, the case moves to the sentencing phase.

This is the defense's opportunity to ask the jury for leniency and present evidence to support why Arias should be spared the death penalty. Witnesses may include Arias' friends and family. Arias could also make a statement to the jury.

The jury then deliberates for a third time to determine whether Arias should be sentenced to life or death. Their decision must be unanimous. In the case of a deadlock, a mistrial would be granted and a new jury would be chosen for this phase only.

If the jury votes for the death penalty, Arias would be sentenced immediately and is likely to be sent to death row within hours. If the jury opts for a life sentence, the judge will set a sentencing date within 30 to 60 days and, at that time, will sentence Arias to natural life or life with eligibility for parole after 25 years.

SECOND-DEGREE MURDER :

If the jury rejects first-degree murder but finds her guilty of the lesser charge of second-degree murder, the judge will sentence Arias to no less than 10 years and no more than 22 years in prison.

Arias will get credit for the time she has been incarcerated awaiting trial.

Thank you for this recap. It was very informative.

So in reading the above i understand the jury must be unanimous in their decision to return 1st degree; only a simple majority to decide if the crime was cruel and finally they must be unanimous again to return the DP. Right?

[elamir]

Many of the comments about the defense team cross the line of what is proper, in my opinion.

What line is that exactly?

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

Sneakers, do you remember seeing the report of police surveillence right before they arrested her? The box of bullets found at her mother's.
Any idea where that might be pls?

Flores's report?

http://wildabouttrial.com/wp-content...ion-Report.pdf

Or this motion from the defense asking to preclude the State from presenting the .25 caliber theft issue?

http://twitdoc.com/upload/zou2/ja-gun-issue.pdf

I still say JM missed to highlight for the jury a very important point when she claimed not once (to Flores) but again under oath the only hand gun she's ever seen has a long barrel. Then Ma'am, you didn't find and see a short barrel .25 in Oct 2007!
Busted but an important bust imo because any point for putting the gun in her hand is a premed point!

Hard to catch everything. She told so many fucking lies. Maybe he'll catch it on closing?

She was lying on those stories too at various times.

JA: I moved not sure more toward middle of April, maybe the 9 suppose to be the 1 st but stayed 4/5 days with Travis.

On the stand when JM had TA's text of April 6 stressingme out on a basis is getting freaking old
JA: yes I think I was still on the road on that date

She can't keep any of her lies her straight, never mind the ones she told to 48hrs.

I'll reserve my opinions of this sur-rebuttal witness until Wed. Maybe he's taken into account her many MANY lies and will dx accordingly.
The best thing he can do for the defense is to say it like it is. If he says she has many disorders, that might garner sympathy towards the defendant. Maybe that's what he's going to do. Say that she has all of these mental disorders and can't help herself. That would be a real twist!

Just going to say right now that he's going say that Stabby was a poor abused woman who suffers from PTSD not BPD. Gerffner and Alyce are tight. Thick as thieves. Only thing I'm interested in is his cross and many lies it will be revealed that Stabby told him. New lies? Same old lies? A mix of the two?