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Thread: Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

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    There is only one way to identify which juror is asking questions; be in court and watch the basket. The judge reads the questions in order received. But, I believe it's been said that juror pass their questions over, and that 1 juror who is behind the basket, deposits them.

    So, you could trace the questions I guess, if you had someone watching the jurors' every move. Even then, I think it would be hard to monitor 15-16 people at the same time (18 originally), to see when each is passing paper. You'd have to have more than 1 watcher I'd think. In the defense's case, it could certainly be the mitigation specialist, some of Jodi's family, Donovan, etc. But, that person or people, would have to just constantly watch the jurors. So, it can be done, but it would be difficult, imo.


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    Jury questions
    If Jodi stabbed Travis in the middle of the bathroom, wouldn't there be blood in the bathroom floor? yes
    Is it possible you are wrong? I don't believe so
    Explain a different outcoming? Don't understand the question
    Could Travis have moved well at any time after being shot? If the bullet had not moved through his brain
    How do you know Travis was still alvie when his throat cut? Lots of blood shows his heart was still pumping
    How many time have you worked on cased involving 25 cal? 100-200 times
    I don't think any of the jury questions point to anyone having heard something from the media, etc...


    ETA: ooh. Didn't think about one being left out. Ugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHamburglar View Post
    Can the state then bring back a different Dr. to say she has BPD and not PTSD? Where does it end.
    Seriously! It's a fucking hostage crisis!

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    P.S.-Has anyone else given a reach-around to a spider-monkey whilst reciting the pledge of allegiance, or is that fairly uncommon?

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    Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 4m
    Juror 8, the note taker took the most notes of any juror that I saw. No reason why he was kicked out yet. #JodiArias

    Wild About Trial 2 ‏@WildaboutTrial2 4m
    Just got confirmation that juror 8 was the Note Taker. #JodiArias

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    I'd have to guess that the reason Juror 8 was let go was due to something that happened today. Otherwise, he probably wouldn't have
    participated in today's testimony.

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    MC Superior Court‏@courtpio47m
    The State has rested their case #JodiArias.

    MC Superior Court‏@courtpio27m
    Trial is in rec

    recess until Wedneday May 1st at 9:00 am. #JodiArias

    So whatever it was, there was 20 mins between the state rests and juror 8 excused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    The state rested today peeps. The judge just forgot to give him a second to say it. She started to release the jury and JM had to get it in there real quick. You can hear him say it twice right as the jury is about to leave.
    That sucks. I guess next Wednesday we can look forward to an entire day of defense testimony of their psych. With as long as it took for the other 2 defense psychs, what makes them think the defense is going to get through it all in 1 day. Then we have cross, ect ect...
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    Quote Originally Posted by elamir View Post
    What do you think the head is full of vacant spaces? No expert needed as the brain was there, flush up to the skull.
    Well, I have taken anatomy and have a chemistry degree, so the answer to your question is no.

    I don't think you understood what I was saying. How could she shoot him standing? He had to be down and on the ground due to the angle of entry of the bullet. So, my point is this; he could not have been attacking her from the angle of the bullet entry wound, so she lied about him attacking her. She is only 5'6" tall. Now, if she were 6', that would be a different scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHamburglar View Post
    His question may have not been allowed and may have shown prejudice. Just a thought. I'm not sure if it is known who asks which
    questions though.
    Good thought, but I think the defence have been watching this juror closely for a few days, like they did with juror 5 and that other one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    MC Superior Court‏@courtpio47m
    The State has rested their case #JodiArias.

    MC Superior Court‏@courtpio27m
    Trial is in rec

    recess until Wedneday May 1st at 9:00 am. #JodiArias

    So whatever it was, there was 20 mins between the state rests and juror 8 excused.
    and the dogs went in just prior to that, all very interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by elamir View Post
    What do you think the head is full of vacant spaces? No expert needed as the brain was there, flush up to the skull.
    Quote Originally Posted by NCBlonde View Post
    There is only one way to identify which juror is asking questions; be in court and watch the basket. The judge reads the questions in order received. But, I believe it's been said that juror pass their questions over, and that 1 juror who is behind the basket, deposits them.

    So, you could trace the questions I guess, if you had someone watching the jurors' every move. Even then, I think it would be hard to monitor 15-16 people at the same time (18 originally), to see when each is passing paper. You'd have to have more than 1 watcher I'd think. In the defense's case, it could certainly be the mitigation specialist, some of Jodi's family, Donovan, etc. But, that person or people, would have to just constantly watch the jurors. So, it can be done, but it would be difficult, imo.
    I am learning so much about trials. It amazes me how complicated it can all be. I would hate to be an attorney. It takes a certain nature. I don't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denn View Post
    Seems like one of the questions was about blood in middle of bathroom floor. I don't recall a photo being shown of the bathroom floor after he died. Does anyone else? I have seen photos afterward. So, I am thinking that is the question that could maybe get him dismissed.
    Denn, the question was okayed by both prosecution and defense, and the judge, before it was asked. Forgive me for losing some patience here, but you sometimes seem to ask questions just for the sake of asking questions. Jesus.

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    What has been bothering me in this trial is all that "pedo" & "abuser" fuckery the DT has been using to defend JA, I was waiting for the "he also stole candy from kids" statement to be used. Why do the court allows that kind of allegations that were proved to be lies??? all this fucking circus they made looks like something the Holy Inquisition's informers would do.

    I think is low to trash talk (at leats in this case) about somebody that was viciously murdered just to save their client, but I supposed is why they are getting paid for.
    "Well, God is not here. We can't subpoena him"

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    Quote Originally Posted by elamir View Post
    Good thought, but I think the defence have been watching this juror closely for a few days, like they did with juror 5 and that other one.
    How can a question show prejudice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HelloItsMe View Post
    In the autopsy, Dr. Horn could see where the bullet entered the skull and where it exited the skull. The frontal lobe is between these two points, so the bullet had to go through his frontal lobe.

    If I recall from Dr. Horn's original testimony, he pointed toward a spot between the eyes as where the bullet exited the skull cavity. From there, the bullet traveled thru Travis's face, stopping in his upper cheek somewhere. The potential deflection locations would be when the bullet exits the skull or when it hits his cheekbone.

    If you look at those 3 points on Travis's face, it doesn't appear much deflection occurred.
    The bullet did not exit the skull - it lodged in behind the cheek, which is still part of the skull. No exit wound.

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    Did anyone get all the autopsy photos shown today (they were new ones)? All I captured was the one of TA's back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnieBelle View Post
    Exactly! And I recall the ME testifying that the chest wound would have eventually caused death, without treatment. But it would have been a slower loss of blood, because it was NOT an artery. When his throat was slashed......then, he was done. And there is no doubt that the throat injury occurred at the end of the hallway.....the farthest point he was able to crawl away from her, before she hunted him down with the last and most vicious slash.
    I agree with us!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnieBelle View Post
    Denn, the question was okayed by both prosecution and defense, and the judge, before it was asked. Forgive me for losing some patience here, but you sometimes seem to ask questions just for the sake of asking questions. Jesus.
    Well, to be honest, I did not KNOW they judge approves questions along with the attorneys. AND, someone else brought it up.

    Damn, I am getting picked on for no reason. I have to question why I bother coming here. I thought it was to learn and understand from people like you, AnnieBelle. I guess not!

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    OK! So I realize I'm way beyond fucking biased in this case.....I hate Jodi and what she did with every inch of my being...
    That being said, I just can't stand it when they have these defense attorneys on all of HLN's programs, debating with the prosecution attorneys. It seems like the only reason they defend Wilmott or Nurmi's tactics in this case, is because THEY are defense lawyers themselves. They can't even possibly look at the actual evidence and open their minds up for the sake of the case...They're just being contrary to be contrary, and it's exhausting. I guess I just shouldn't watch if it irritates me that much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by denn View Post
    My understanding from reading the autopsy report, the bullet was still in his left cheek.
    Could the gun been a piece of shit and not functioned right?

    I can't understand even though it's tiny how he was shot on the right forehead and it didn't have the velocity to exit out his thin cheek??? I saw hamburgler's video with that huge gelatin block?

    I was gunshot first until today but I'm just wondering about why she would even use the same cal gun that was stolen from her GP since she had the knife. Why leave extra evidence. But gheez, why do I still 'wonder' about anything this crazy b does!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBlonde View Post
    There is only one way to identify which juror is asking questions; be in court and watch the basket. The judge reads the questions in order received. But, I believe it's been said that juror pass their questions over, and that 1 juror who is behind the basket, deposits them.

    So, you could trace the questions I guess, if you had someone watching the jurors' every move. Even then, I think it would be hard to monitor 15-16 people at the same time (18 originally), to see when each is passing paper. You'd have to have more than 1 watcher I'd think. In the defense's case, it could certainly be the mitigation specialist, some of Jodi's family, Donovan, etc. But, that person or people, would have to just constantly watch the jurors. So, it can be done, but it would be difficult, imo.
    I think it would be very hard to trace the questions. I believe some are multiples on the same sheet.


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    I find it hilarious that YOU are acting all high and mighty toward us when you're posting on here just like anyone else and in addition, defending a murderer. A child murderer, at that. Go fuck a Popsicle.

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    I am done with this site. I have not watched this trial from day one, nor have I seen consecutive days of trial testimony. It seems to be, that I was taught in school - there is no stupid question. Asking questions is about trying to understand and learn. Forgive me if I don't want to walk through life ignorant. Some of these people on this site seem to have all the answers. I say good for them! But for me, I don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denn View Post
    Seems like one of the questions was about blood in middle of bathroom floor. I don't recall a photo being shown of the bathroom floor after he died. Does anyone else? I have seen photos afterward. So, I am thinking that is the question that could maybe get him dismissed.
    idk - that question made sense since jodi testified thats where she shot him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shahoolie11 View Post
    OK! So I realize I'm way beyond fucking biased in this case.....I hate Jodi and what she did with every inch of my being...
    That being said, I just can't stand it when they have these defense attorneys on all of HLN's programs, debating with the prosecution attorneys. It seems like the only reason they defend Wilmott or Nurmi's tactics in this case, is because THEY are defense lawyers themselves. They can't even possibly look at the actual evidence and open their minds up for the sake of the case...They're just being contrary to be contrary, and it's exhausting. I guess I just shouldn't watch if it irritates me that much!
    I agree, they totally ignore the actual EVIDENCE and just go along with whatever whacked out thing the DT is trying to pull for the sole reason that they are a defense attorney as well. If these people were such great attorneys, why aren't they out WORKING instead of watching the Jodi Arias trial every day just to get on TV????

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    Quote Originally Posted by PopRocks View Post
    i dont know what i going to do until weds

    man, i need to get my life back
    So say we all

    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post


    well the defense did something this is palin right b4 the judge announced juror 8 was gone
    Quote Originally Posted by olgasbunghole View Post
    she is so unethical & unprofessional! poor TA's family!
    Unethical and unprofessional doesn't go far enough in describing her.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jillee View Post
    Yes. They are bringing in another psychologist to testify that Jodi has PTSD and not BPD. Should be riveting.
    Dr Geffner who is an acolyte of Alyce's, even edits her books. JM is going to have a field day with this guy. Can't wait to see what lies Stabby told him in comparison to Samuels and Alyce.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brillig View Post
    In fact ALV might well say that his not dying fast enough was abusive of poor Jodi. She had to chase him down the hall and everything. It was stressful for her, the poor darling. How inconsiderate and abusive of him. Men, sheesh.
    And the nerve, the nerve of that man making her shoot him at last moment thereby linking the bullet casing at the scene to the fake robbery at Granny's house. What a bastard.


    QUOTE=Harlette;3401317]idk - maybe he was sick, i heard some one sound like they were coughing up a lung yesterday, just like right b4 the other juror was released because he was sick [/QUOTE]

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    I think that's "Granny" Arias
    Here's is Granny in happier times.


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