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Thread: Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brillig View Post
    I am positive Dr. DeMarte's IQ is quite high. I would guess Jenny's IQ is probably above average, but not far above.

    I am also impressed that Juan choose Dr. D. I said from the start that I thought he had made an excellent choice, even considering her age and fewer years in practice.




    Nope, we haven't.

    Nor has Dr. D asked Jenny if "she is mad at her".

    Not did Dr. D bring a cheering section with her to court to give her neck rubs during the breaks.

    And she can always find the relevant papers instantly.
    Um I believe she had a freind in the gallery at least yesterday, not sure about today.
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    Wonder why Juan didn't object and push for his witness to be able to look at the emails/IM? I know he knows that the Doc can handle the cross and by Willmutt refusing to allow it makes her look worse than she already does if that's possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lisam2013 View Post
    I found it ironic that JW was emphasizing with this witness that "you wouldn't want to mislead anyone?" considering just yesterday JW mislead the jurors into thinking that LW doesn't follow the 6 pt criteria with the same witness.
    That comment by Willmott was so out of line, considering ALL of the misleading she is attempting to do with the experts she and Nurmi brought in and, I don't know - insinuating that the victim was a pedophile ?!

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    So far, JDM has held her ground well, at least it seems so to me. I don't know how trials really are, but never thought exams went quite like JW's. JM's were tough, but not so ridiculous. This should be a great learning experience for JDM for future court cases. When her next case is over, she'll probably think, "wow, is that it?".

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    Quote Originally Posted by elamir View Post
    Wonder why Juan didn't object and push for his witness to be able to look at the emails/IM? I know he knows that the Doc can handle the cross and by Willmutt refusing to allow it makes her look worse than she already does if that's possible.
    There are huge gaps in the text and IM's (we only know the pieces that have been shown in court) Dr. D said on the stand that all Travis' angry words were always in response to Jodi being intrusive in his life. Jenny didn't let her bring them out b/c then I think the jury would finally see the start, middle, and ending of the text conversations. Maybe JM will bring them up now??

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    I think any man is wrong to lay with a woman for their own pleasure then turn around and use female attack names. If JA is a slut then so was he.
    agree... a lot of what he said and did was indefensible... BUT... you know the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elamir View Post
    Wonder why Juan didn't object and push for his witness to be able to look at the emails/IM? I know he knows that the Doc can handle the cross and by Willmutt refusing to allow it makes her look worse than she already does if that's possible.
    In contrast, ALV spent so much time on the stand reading and making everybody wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elamir View Post
    No wonder stabby has got that stabby look in her eyes today....she must be hating this!! Love it!
    Oh man, I bet that pissed the hell out of Jodi that Clancy was/is in court and I also bet she's still jealous of her too!! haha

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    From about 6:44 to 7:35 cracked me the hell up this morning.

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/wTzc2qd-U38" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnieBelle View Post
    I caught Nurmi's laugh......he may just be having some dialogue with himself, sitting in his own little corner, in his own little chair. The whole dang table has gone loony!!
    I thought he was smiling at DeMarte's answer and then shaking his head "no" when WilMutt asked another question. he likes Janeen better than Jenny!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jingles View Post
    She's just keeps digging. Love how she tried stalling when she couldn't find the text message/IM, repeating her question over and over, Dr. D just calmly repeating that she'd like to view the message before responding to be accurate. Palin was pacing back and forth like a chicken with her head cut off, lol.

    JW vs Dr D is reminiscent of when I and my husband argue. I yap, yap, yap...raise my voice, trying to engage him, turning red in the face as he just stands there calmly listening, not answering me, and when I'm finished simply saying, "Are you done? Is that it?" Arrrgh, drives me crazy!
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    Oops that didn't work, let me try that again.

    http://youtu.be/wTzc2qd-U38

    This morning's testimony from 6:44 to 7:35. Jenny didn't know WTF she was talking about lol.

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    Defense team is obsessed with vilifying Travis for that 5-26-08 email. Everyone wants to know what she did or said that triggered his email which to me represented his final realization of the depth of Jodi's depravity. She brutally kill e d him
    9 days later.
    I loved the fact the doctor said 3x that he was not alive to clarify why he said what he said





















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    Quote Originally Posted by oh right View Post
    Who's been asking for the recesses? Someone must be trying to get caught up. Lunch was 10 min. early. What's up?
    Perhaps Jenny needs more time to google before the next session?

    Quote Originally Posted by elamir View Post
    I know, that laugh from Helmet Head is hilarious, I've never seen a lawyer leak such emotional information before, it's sooooo bad it's craptastically good!!
    Agreed, it is quite the show!

    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    Um I believe she had a freind in the gallery at least yesterday, not sure about today.
    Did she? I did not notice. Did it show her leaving with someone?

    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post
    There are huge gaps in the text and IM's (we only know the pieces that have been shown in court) Dr. D said on the stand that all Travis' angry words were always in response to Jodi being intrusive in his life. Jenny didn't let her bring them out b/c then I think the jury would finally see the start, middle, and ending of the text conversations. Maybe JM will bring them up now??
    I wish he would. I think we all have some reasonable guesses as to what kinds of things are there, but I would love to know the actual details with certainty. I think it would show quite clearly what Jodi was really like in that relationship.

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    For those interested, Bermstalker has compiled a Jodi timeline on her blog.

    Its really helpful trying to piece together all the information that has come in.


    http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2013/...-pictures.html
    http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2013/...ress.html#more

    ETA: here's the picture of Jodi's friend Patti I was looking for the other day
    Last edited by M Joy; 04-18-2013 at 11:23 AM.

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    I hope jurors ask for clarification of BPD so JD can really elaborate. IMO there will be a lot less questions for JD, and this jury gets what is going on during this ridiculous cross. Jenny will be crushed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    I left out the part about him burping while speaking to the Judge and adjusting his junk while standing at the defense table.
    LOL I WANT TO SEE THAT!!! did he rly do it???????
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    I'm watching HLN, since my computer can't stream things (she's very old and very tired -pets the computer-).

    Wilmott is acting all outraged that Dr. D. did not talk to Jodi to get any extra perspective on the e-mail.

    Uhhhh, hello. What the fuck has the defense been doing to Travis this entire trial?!

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    Can JM bring the clip in of Lenore saying she uses the criteria, just to boost his witnesses credibility? Since the DT gave jurors reason to doubt it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brillig View Post
    I wish he would. I think we all have some reasonable guesses as to what kinds of things are there, but I would love to know the actual details with certainty. I think it would show quite clearly what Jodi was really like in that relationship.
    I would love to see the whole text, and IM messages. Mostly the one I want more than anything is the part of the conversation BEFORE Travis replied with "This is in response to your dire conversation"

    I think Jodi's text before Travis' replies are the "nail" in the coffin. Maybe they are considered legally against her (or whatever that legal term is). IDK

    I believe Dr. DeMarte when she said that all Travis' bad words were always in response to Jodi intruding in his life and stalking him. May 10 was the last nice text he sent her. May 26 was the next time he texted her....and that was the mean text.

    From May 10 until June 4- There is only 2 text from Travis and 1 IM....and one phone call. That has all that has been shown on Travis' side. That's just 4 communications with Jodi.

    On Jodi's side-There were multiple emails, that stupid poem, Texts, IM and lots of phone calls that only last seconds.

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    How did Willmutt expect the jury to believe that Travis got up from the "blood pouring down his back photo, with Jodi's foot" to getting up and deleting photos? Hope Juan goes there on redirect. At the very least Jodi deleted 4 photos - and Willmutt thinks this is helping her client?

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    I just keep wondering what Wilmott thinks she's gaining by thinking that asking Jodi how many times she's punched holes in wall, broken windows or kicked in doors will gain her?

    I have never done any of the above--with the exception of breaking a window when locked out of my house, with my baby inside--nor have I ever slapped or kicked my mother, nor even thought about doing that even when she slapped me when I was a teen. These aren't normal behaviors for a teenager or adult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    For those interested, Bermstalker has compiled a Jodi timeline on her blog.

    Its really helpful trying to piece together all the information that has come in.


    http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2013/...-pictures.html
    http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2013/...ress.html#more

    ETA: here's the picture of Jodi's friend Patti I was looking for the other day
    The wedding pictures that Jodi was worrying about when she was first arrested, was that Patty's wedding? Does anybody know when Patty got married? She has that long blond hair that she had while with Travis.

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