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Thread: Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brillig View Post
    Jodi's continued refusal to even look at Dr DM is sooooo childish. Ugh.

    I babysat my friend's toddler yesterday, and this is the kind of thing he would do: "I'm mad, so I am not gonna even look at you, you dumb poopy head!! So there!!"

    At least he has the excuse of being three years old.
    This is probably what Jodi is writing, over and over again today, "I hate you, you big dumb poopy head!! I want to kill you!!!!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by CreepyGus View Post
    Standing on your head does not demonstrate hyper-vigilance!
    Haha

    Quote Originally Posted by DenverClipper View Post
    JW is going to have a tough time impeaching this witness
    She's going to have to be careful trying to do it as well or she risks further exposing the bias of her own experts

    Quote Originally Posted by ShellJett View Post
    I wonder if Dr. Samuels is watching this testimony from his undisclosed location.
    Coconut we need an update from Dick's undisclosed location!
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    Quote Originally Posted by oh right View Post
    Wilmutt smirking at PTSD sufferers reliving events. I've seen it, in friends who came back from Viet Nam. Nothing to laugh about, b-tch.
    She's aware she may be on camera. I wonder if it's a nervous thing the more stressed she gets, or just downright ignorance. Probably both.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Stabby paying attention now. As Dr Demarte mentions she doesn't meet the memory criteria of PTSD she mouths "Of course"
    I thought it looked like bullshit


    This girl is an excellent witness. She's extremely knowledgeable, highly articulate, her attention to detail and not straying from the subject matter, is a pleasure to listen to. I hope the jury are taking notes to compare and contrast. Her testimony'till now has already blown the other two out of the water. Cross'll be interesting, this is a witness who won't shirk the duty she's there to do.

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    Doc Lady has completely destroyed the defense!

    Mid afternoon

    The scales- "floating profiles" is when you see a number of elevations in the MCMI. It's common in BPD. Lady doc sensed that Jodi was immature b/c of the booking profile. Jodi told her parents she was happy as hell when they visited her in jail.

    Lady doc's opinion of Jodi was BPD Level 2. Unstable, immature, constant change in personalities.

    EX 622- copy of the DSM for BPD.
    The first- Efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. LD thought Jodi had a huge desire to be attached to somebody. They engage in people to keep them close to them. They overstep boundaries. Jodi read his text and emails. Jodi was spying on him.
    The second-unstable or intense personal relationships- Jodi met the symptom. Jodi had a strong urge to go from boyfriend to boyfriend. She would idolize the men she was with. Her diaries are immature.
    The third-Identiy-Jodi would change her life to go with whatever boyfriend she was with. Jodi acted like Darryl's ex wife when she was with Darryl (OH shit) She dyed her hair and drove a certain car like OG's ex
    The Fourth-impulse-do things on a whim. She didn't find this about Jodi
    The fifth-Suicidal- LD says Jodi fit this
    The sixth-Afflictive instability- a roller coaster of emotions. Jodi meets this. Jodi went up in down as her ex boyfriends described her. LD seen that herself. The parents also describe this since Jodi was young
    The seventh-feelings of emptiness- Jodi had this
    Eight- engage in anger-She talked in email to Travis and she was angry.

    EX 623- Feb 14, 07- Jodi email to Travis- Anger at Travis. JM wants the email admitted
    Nurmi asks for an approach

    Ninth-Transiet parnoid stress related- Lady Doc didn't find this in Jodi

    Do you agree with Dr Fog and PTSD? I disagree. Jodi didn't display any of those symptons.
    Lady Doc wants to offer an example on Scale #2
    Palin asks for an approach

    EX 623- anger email from Jodi- Jodi talks about kicking walls and stuff. (Yep, she a nut job) Jodi wants to be christ like. Feb 14, 2007 at 16:58- 4:58 (This email was written the same day as the spidey underwear)

    LD says she disagreed with Dr. Fog. LD says she prepared a report in this case. LD does the typing and reviews. Any errors are her errors.
    EX 544- Dr. Fog's report- PTSD- Lady Doc says it falls shorts in D and she would have to review C.
    Why do you think this is not PTSD? LD is explaining the symptoms. LD says is Dr. Fog based his report on Jodi's lies, the report would be inaccurate. (I suspect she will be called on many cases after this) PTSD can NOT be based on a made-up event. EX 545-symptoms. LD says that Jodi thought about the killing but not like a person with PTSD. Real PTSD have a very hard time moving day to day. Jodi told LD she had some dreams but not often. (I like how JM writes it down so it can go back to the jury room)

    LD says Jodi didn't show any distress after the killing. She was going to the memorial and writing about Travis in her diary.

    LD and JM are reading alot of symptoms and such. Jodi wrote a lot of good things about Travis after the killing.
    Pee Break
    Jodi reported to LD that Jodi had a large gap in her memory. Several hours. LD says that is not how typical memory issues work. LD says that most people talk about it and gain some memory loss. Jodi reported to the LD that she went to go grab the knife. Jodi told Dr. Fog she disposed of the weapons and clothes.....but what concerned the LD was that she met with Jodi after the Dr. Fog.
    Jodi told the LD there was a little blood on her hand when she reached the Hoover dam and Jodi told the LD that's when she knew she killed Travis.
    Jodi didn't stop engaging with people after the killing.
    Making out with Ryan the day after the killing is BPD. Jodi was at the point of devaluing Travis.

    LD keeps saying every pattern Jodi shows is BPD.
    Jodi meets none of these symptoms.
    LD says Jodi does NOT have PTSD.

    Adjustment disorder-A change in behavior. (I guess the LD also said Jodi suffered for this but it was substained)
    Memory issues- fight or fight. LD says our memory becomes secondary.
    Palin asks for an approach

    Break until 3:15

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    Quote Originally Posted by gratis04 View Post
    I am going to claim my girl-crush on the Dr. right now....
    she reminds me of girl i used to be with back in HS

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    Does anyone else hear "Please stand for the jury" in their head before the lady says it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverClipper View Post
    JW is going to have a tough time impeaching this witness


    It's going to be a blast watching her try. She had trouble asking her own witnesses questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dizzyp View Post
    excellent point.. I wonder if his actual notes become part of the evidence that the jury can review... not sure about that.
    I think it encourages them to write along with him. My dad is a pastor and always uses sermon notes to encourage people to follow along and also to remember what is being discussed.


    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    I find it hilarious that YOU are acting all high and mighty toward us when you're posting on here just like anyone else and in addition, defending a murderer. A child murderer, at that. Go fuck a Popsicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverClipper View Post
    JW is going to have a tough time impeaching this witness

    Disclaimer, I dozed off a little and missed a few things. She's good, not saying she isn't, but did she contradict herself? Meaning, BPD flipped, example she hated Travis ... but then this shrink used how wonderful she wrote about him for not avoidance example.
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    FROM JAII...ENJOY!

    "Hope to GOD this chick never has kids…. And I noticed for being 32 years old she’s not married or engaged….."

    "Good one Renee! I think maybe this young lady was promised a trip to the mall, a new I-phone and a chance to be on TV for her testimony! Maybe even her own reality show!! Is she a Guidette?"

    "This witness J Dimarti is a textbook educated idiot lacking human compassion for anyone except her pampas robotic self. In her attempt to discredit people in her field that have years of experience, textbook and life alone, this just might be professional suicide for her."

    "I almost feel sorry for this witness. She doesn’t realize that a complete destruction of her credibility is in her near future."

    "

    She IS THE MOST EMBARRASSING WITNESS!!!!!!

    JM KNOWS HE’S SUNK!"

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    The only thing they can attack her of, is her lack of experience (although if we compare her to Dr. Samuels, experience isn't everything ), I see them going for that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faq_q View Post
    I think it encourages them to write along with him. My dad is a pastor and always uses sermon notes to encourage people to follow along and also to remember what is being discussed.
    Hmmm Great idea... I can imagine them (jury) doing the same & following right along

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrianadalba View Post
    The only thing they can attack her of, is her lack of experience (although if we compare her to Dr. Samuels, experience isn't everything ), I see them going for that one.

    Well, maybe her stolen laptop too.

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    Basically, she doesn't really believe "the gap" because it's too specific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CreepyGus View Post
    FROM JAII...ENJOY!

    "Hope to GOD this chick never has kids…. And I noticed for being 32 years old she’s not married or engaged….."

    "Good one Renee! I think maybe this young lady was promised a trip to the mall, a new I-phone and a chance to be on TV for her testimony! Maybe even her own reality show!! Is she a Guidette?"

    "This witness J Dimarti is a textbook educated idiot lacking human compassion for anyone except her pampas robotic self. In her attempt to discredit people in her field that have years of experience, textbook and life alone, this just might be professional suicide for her."

    "I almost feel sorry for this witness. She doesn’t realize that a complete destruction of her credibility is in her near future."

    "

    She IS THE MOST EMBARRASSING WITNESS!!!!!!

    JM KNOWS HE’S SUNK!"
    LOL Straight forward, to the point, yes or no answers when need be, non biased... yeah such an embarrassment!!!

    Karma is only a bitch if you are!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gecko am View Post
    Gawd again with the approach. Did Jen learn ANYTHING else in law school other than to approach and object? She is not easy to listen to even with her own witnesses. I hope this Dr. puts her smack on her ass!
    hahaha maybe I didn't miss anything then when I dozed off after all
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    Quote Originally Posted by bete noire View Post
    I always thought that she didn't kill him immediately because she wanted to give him one last shot to change his mind about Cancun... ya know? ONE more chance to give her what she figures was rightfully HERS? A chance to come to his senses, ditch the Mimi broad, and make the situation right (in her wonky eyes). That was HER trip, she deserved it... or so she thought. Maybe they slept (since she did get there late, right?), she tried to lure him back in with the poon, since that always seemed to work before... but, when they got up (& maybe even a double feature if the office sex is to be believed), it didn't work, he showed her the door, and she just lost it?

    Whether or not the shower photo shoot was staged (which seems kinda doubtful when you read his blog and hear about his bathroom/privacy issues) or she snuck back in and surprised him I cannot tell for sure. Maybe she just wanted some mementos? A couple last pics...
    As for the gun shot coming first or last. Gots me, lol.
    Maybe it came 1st, but then jammed (like in story version 3524, her ninja one) so she had to resort to using the knife. Personally I am leaning towards her using the gun to maintain control over him or to be used as a last resort (cuz gunshots are loud). that last photo of him sitting in the shower he looks so uncomfortable... definitely NOT like he is posing to show off his almost-6pack. I think she got him down into that vulnerable position and then began the attack on him. The viciousness shows how ANGRY she was at him. Pure overkill! Maybe the gunshot came last because,, like a lot of people said, he just would. not. die.

    He died like he lived, fighting for his life, for a better outcome.

    I think the over kill with the knife is typical of people who kill people out of rage, right? Anger fuels it. Isn't that why, when people are stabbed multiple times, the immediate person they expect is a close person to the victim? Stabbing is a very personal way to kill someoneand she didn't just stab him, she butchered him front and back... slit his throat for good measure. THAT'S some crazy rage right there. I'm not sure of the psychological(?) reasoning behind it, and I know I am totally butchering my explanation here, but I hope you get the idea of what I am trying to say =)



    No kidding... I come on here to catch up and read they are blowing up the eye pic and looking for god knows what! Didn't we discuss that - for a million pages - ages ago? I guess they have some cathing up to do themselves. I wonder how many far-fetched things we could hatch here that would wind up in court? if I didn't want as swift as possible justice for Travis and the Alexanders I would suggest trying to see what crazy scenarios that we could come up with, just to see if they appear in a certain arizona court room. The defense team clearly scouts here for strategy, no doubt.



    Not necessarily. Maybe the jury wants to understand the fuckery that is Ms. LaViolette? I know I'd wanna know how in the fuck she came to some of the conclusions she did, what her corroborative evidence was, how she sleeps at night (which would have been asked if I were on the jury....), and stuff like that. there may be one or two people on the jury trying to be absolutely CERTAIN they have all the story (they are up for putting someone to death, after all).
    PLUS, in the long run I think it benefits prospective clients of hers in the future to know exactly how she sees things and handles herself in court, what they might be getting into if they were stupid enough to try and use her as their 'expert' witness.



    Personally I think HE was the one to throw the bedding and such in the wash. I mean, they had just done the dirty on those bad boys so there was sex juices and KY all over the place. He was getting ready to leave for Cancun... he seems like the super clean type that wouldn't leave stuff like that lying around, ya know?
    Exactly my point if Juan would lay off the snow white speech and stick to the real purpose at addressing the issues maybe the juriors would have a clear consice picture of the knowledge that pertains to the proicutions questions.In his questioning of HIS witnesses he paints a clear picture for the jury in his cross he's all over the place and is very confusing.Add the "my dick is bigger than your's attitude" and the jury gets lost as to what the question is/was/and remembers "the tone" in which the question was delivered.He may be the best but he would get more with honey than with vinigar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CreepyGus View Post
    FROM JAII...ENJOY!

    "Hope to GOD this chick never has kids?. And I noticed for being 32 years old she?s not married or engaged?.."

    "Good one Renee! I think maybe this young lady was promised a trip to the mall, a new I-phone and a chance to be on TV for her testimony! Maybe even her own reality show!! Is she a Guidette?"

    "This witness J Dimarti is a textbook educated idiot lacking human compassion for anyone except her pampas robotic self. In her attempt to discredit people in her field that have years of experience, textbook and life alone, this just might be professional suicide for her."

    "I almost feel sorry for this witness. She doesn?t realize that a complete destruction of her credibility is in her near future."

    "

    She IS THE MOST EMBARRASSING WITNESS!!!!!!

    JM KNOWS HE?S SUNK!"
    Sometimes I think those people are watching a different trial!
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    Did the judge just give the Dr a big smile?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post
    Doc Lady has completely destroyed the defense!

    Mid afternoon

    Eight- engage in anger-She talked in email to Travis and she was angry.

    EX 623- Feb 14, 07- Jodi email to Travis- Anger at Travis. JM wants the email admitted
    Nurmi asks for an approach

    Ninth-Transiet parnoid stress related- Lady Doc didn't find this in Jodi

    EX 623- anger email from Jodi- Jodi talks about kicking walls and stuff. (Yep, she a nut job) Jodi wants to be christ like. Feb 14, 2007 at 16:58- 4:58 (This email was written the same day as the spidey underwear)
    Interestingly enough it was when Dr Demarte was reading her email that Stabby finally showed ANY interest in what the Dr was saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CreepyGus View Post
    FROM JAII...ENJOY!

    "Hope to GOD this chick never has kids?. And I noticed for being 32 years old she?s not married or engaged?.."

    "Good one Renee! I think maybe this young lady was promised a trip to the mall, a new I-phone and a chance to be on TV for her testimony! Maybe even her own reality show!! Is she a Guidette?"

    "This witness J Dimarti is a textbook educated idiot lacking human compassion for anyone except her pampas robotic self. In her attempt to discredit people in her field that have years of experience, textbook and life alone, this just might be professional suicide for her."

    "I almost feel sorry for this witness. She doesn?t realize that a complete destruction of her credibility is in her near future."

    "

    She IS THE MOST EMBARRASSING WITNESS!!!!!!

    JM KNOWS HE?S SUNK!"
    and then they try to be funny...

    Jeff says:
    April 16, 2013 at 5:43 pm


    More cross:

    JW ? So you did say you are getting paid by the prosecution?
    Baby Doc ? yes
    JW ? Do you think its a coincidence that you agree with everything Juan says?
    Baby Doc ? WAH! JUAN! Make them stop.

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    So not a fight or flight mode
    Organization & Planning <---- NICE !!!
    {i need a little bit of that too}

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrianadalba View Post
    The only thing they can attack her of, is her lack of experience (although if we compare her to Dr. Samuels, experience isn't everything ), I see them going for that one.
    True She doesn't have as much magazine reading 'experience' of other people's work like Samuals and Alyce.
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    Mama and Auntie aren't having such a fun time today. Donovan's face is read from her/him rubbing it. Not a good day so far.

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    Mama and Auntie aren't having such a fun time today. Donovan's face is red from her/him rubbing it. Not a good day so far.

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