Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

[Kdon]

I'm going to have to diagnose Small Man Syndrome on Juan too, he has issues. He can't just say "Dr. Samuels" in the normal flow of questioning. Must be ten times now. It has to be "Excuse me, (clears throat) DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKKKTOOOOR Samuels..."

Hate all you want, Juanbeliebers, but his case is far too strong to call for such theatrics. He's trying to clown the defense and they did a fine job of clowning themselves.

Are u kidding????

The DT has made a joke of this case from the beginning with their witnesses and the evidence they've tried to admit!!

[wasthinking]

He's probably trying to figure out what she's talking about. In other words, he's clueless.

Giggles is the lead on this one though. She can't string two words together without F ing up. It's going to be fascinating to watch the shrink handle Valley Girl.

Ms Giggles, Ms real Brains ... Ms Real brains, allow us to introduce you to Ms Giggles.

[dizzyp]

Snoop Dog IQ on IMDB says 147 so who knows exactly?

and did that original list say Andy Warhol @ 87? is it a left brain right brain thing? seems odd.

[gecko am]

how tall is the dr? or is that just really high heels?

Too bad Flores is married (although I'm sure he's happy) but they'd make a nice sharp couple

[ShellJett]

Did I hear correctly? Did the dr diagnose her as a psychopath?

Not quite, I hope she is getting there. Still on only 1 part of the test where Demarte looked at 3 in particular.

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

From Stabby's brain trust over at JAII

Suzy says:
April 16, 2013 at 3:16 pm

Is it me or is it lazy work by the prosecution? I mean Mtz doesnt really want to fully engage in anything with this case except data, numbers, doggies etc… and that’s what this demartian girl did. She wants to evaluate data from experts so she can conclude her findings instead of relying on her intuition.

Demartian, you're so clever Suzy

SET says:
April 16, 2013 at 3:13 pm

Does anyone else remember that Dr. Samuels was asked by the jury if he felt that his 25 hrs spent with Jodi was enough time to truly evaluate Jodi? Implying that it wasn’t enough time? Surely that juror will think her 12hrs with Jodi is a joke!

Actually even Samuels agreed with what Dr Demarte said

MentalHealthForShortManSyndrome says:
April 16, 2013 at 3:13 pm

Jodi’s IQ was not that high. 119 is *barely* over average. Had she scored over 135, that’s high.

Does this mean the *forensic psychiatrist* is *manipulating* her results??

Can't even...


Oliviero says:
April 16, 2013 at 3:04 pm

She is very bias and a Martinez Puppet, since all her explanations are just transparently against Samuel’s and LaViolette

Who were so transparently biased?

eli says:
April 16, 2013 at 3:02 pm

Dr. DeMarte hates Jodi much more than Dr. Samuels and laviolette liked her

Dorothy says:
April 16, 2013 at 3:04 pm

I don’t sense hatred so much as indifference….

Expert witnesses are not supposed to like/dislike the subject

[wasthinking]

Yes, I believe so. I am looking for the youtube vid so I can watch the beginning (which I missed) and rewatch the end.

They are in my sig and croaker has her's up already.

[gecko am]

impressive. and I forgot, he's Snoop Lion now :)

Ha ha! Perhaps that explains the difference in IQ. Dog's are higher than Lions.

[dizzyp]

My hand would have went numb an hour ago using those little midget pencils..

from Jodi's Amazon wish list:

[Harlette]

Melvis says:
April 16, 2013 at 2:53 pm

it makes me very sad that Jodi cooperated with this person. She has a right not to cooperate, and she should of refused…..:{….I wonder if this happened when she didn’t have an attorney.


omg i do not understand these jaii ppl - she didn't have a choice to talk to prosecutors Dr after wilmont and nurmi brought in their own dr's - they aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer

[olgasbunghole]

I'm going to have to diagnose Small Man Syndrome on Juan too, he has issues. He can't just say "Dr. Samuels" in the normal flow of questioning. Must be ten times now. It has to be "Excuse me, (clears throat) DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKKKTOOOOR Samuels..."

Hate all you want, Juanbeliebers, but his case is far too strong to call for such theatrics. He's trying to clown the defense and they did a fine job of clowning themselves.

Hmmmmmmm.........."coconut"........ as in....... pro defense on the inside but pro prosecution on the outside

[Wishmich]

Stark contrast between Alyce and Dr. DeMarte. Even greater contrast when you think of how much time we spent on Snow White. In retrospect, Juan made a good move in bringing that up just to show the difference in professionalism.

[dizzyp]

ok this is strange - its like she is becoming manic - or she is trying to finish her manifesto and sell it b4 she is found guilty

she must have boatload of pent-up anxiety, nervous energy, panic... dam about to burst

[zeebee]

Did I hear correctly? Did the dr diagnose her as a psychopath?

I don't think so, not yet - I kind of missed parts at the very end when they were getting to the good stuff, my feed quit and I had to restart and then some music was playing somewhere and I couldn't get it to quit. JODI POSSESSED MY COMPUTER

All I heard was something about how she keeps anger in until she blows up or something like that.

and did that original list say Andy Warhol @ 87? is it a left brain right brain thing? seems odd.

I don't know if that is accurate or not (about Andy Warhol - it also listed Leonardi DaVinci's IQ - did they test him posthumously?), but I never thought Andy Warhol was particularly intelligent. And no, it is not a left brain right brain thing.

[Angiebla]

Not quite, I hope she is getting there. Still on only 1 part of the test where Demarte looked at 3 in particular.

Ok thanks. I am so happy right now that Jodi is being exposed for what she really is! I have been waiting the whole trial for this!

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

Melvis says:
April 16, 2013 at 2:53 pm

it makes me very sad that Jodi cooperated with this person. She has a right not to cooperate, and she should of refused…..:{….I wonder if this happened when she didn’t have an attorney.


omg i do not understand these jaii ppl - she didn't have a choice to talk to prosecutors Dr after wilmont and nurmi brought in their own dr's - they aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer

The brain trust over there is running a deficit

JODI POSSESSED MY COMPUTER

It's best to avoid looking directly in her eyes when she looks at the camera.

[wasthinking]

Stark contrast between Alyce and Dr. DeMarte. Even greater contrast when you think of how much time we spent on Snow White. In retrospect, Juan made a good move in bringing that up just to show the difference in professionalism.

Poor killer doesn't even fit in with her own kind.

It is rumoured that the mafia leader Al Capone had an IQ of 200. An example of a criminal with a verified exceptional intelligence (IQ 170, at age 10) is the Unabomber Theodore Kaczynski. He was a successful researcher in mathematics before he turned against the society. Other famous high IQ scorers among the criminals are Richard Loeb (child iq 160) and Nathan Leopold (child iq 210) at the beginning of the 20th century.

[ImBatman!]

Not quite, I hope she is getting there. Still on only 1 part of the test where Demarte looked at 3 in particular.

She said "psychopathology."

[wasthinking]

Ok. HLN is talking about a surrebuttal. Apparently its at the judge's discrection. Booo.
I thought there was no such thing.

I said earlier there is but it is conditional and only if the Judge permits one. Usually that approval is based only when there is NEW exonerating evidence. [from what I've checked on for AZ]

[dizzyp]

I don't know if that is accurate or not (about Andy Warhol).... but I never thought Andy Warhol was particularly intelligent. And no, it is not a left brain right brain thing.

well he was in (according to Wiki) 80–89 "Dull Normal range". I suppose that's possible.

[Dee Stress]

Don't hate me, but I am not really feeling Dr. Demarte. I am impressed by her education but to me personally she sounds kind of ditzy and the tone of her voice grates on me. She reminds me of someone on the Hills or something - talks through her nose and I can almost hear, say Kristin Cavallari if I close my eyes (Yes I watched the Hills religiously - don't judge!). Don't know - obviously the sole of my shoe would be an improvement over ALV, but I'm kind of surprised the state couldn't get someone who has a bit more experience. The defense had 2 expert witnesses that came off sort of professorial and it would be nice to see someone similar (but intelligent!) to rebut what they've had to say. Just my 2 cents.

Don't underestimate her because of her age and experience, she appears to be very knowledgeable, and as you say her credentials are excellent. She doesn't appear in the least ditzy to me. I find it refreshing to not have a 'professorial' type witness, look where that led to in relation to emotions/feelings re JA. Of course, those two go against the grain in terms of professionalism, just to be clear. Now I see this girl in action I believe it may have been a deliberate move on JM's part to retain a witness close to JA's age.

I have no problem with her yet. Yes, she is young and pretty. Not going to hold that against her. She is very professional and well spoken. So far, I'm impressed.

Me too. She has picked up immediately where she left off after over-ruled objections, no re-asking questions continuously, and is clear and concise in her answers.

This is where Martinez goes over the line and acts like a complete asshole. Dr. Samuels should be called Dr. Samuels. There are so many other ways to diminish his testimony than making an issue of his name/title... how "small" of you Mr. The Prosecutor!

I'm going to have to diagnose Small Man Syndrome on Juan too, he has issues. He can't just say "Dr. Samuels" in the normal flow of questioning. Must be ten times now. It has to be "Excuse me, (clears throat) DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKKKTOOOOR Samuels..."

Hate all you want, Juanbeliebers, but his case is far too strong to call for such theatrics. He's trying to clown the defense and they did a fine job of clowning themselves.

Oooh the hatred. Such theatrics and issues?!? Your guy's got carte blanche on that Coco. And please refer to him as The Chosen One from now on, your guy insists on it. :))

Oh for pete's sakes. We're talking about a brutal slaughter here. The DT only wants to give credibility to their witness by a title and they're making a federal case out of it.
I wouldn't blame anybody for mocking such a minor issue.

Nor I, considering they DT can't get through a day without mockery and fuckery.

OMG really a high IQ?

I don't know why anyone's surprised by this, manipulative people are usually quite smart. They're always out to get what they want, if they can't get it by themselves, they will coerce someone else into getting/doing it for them. The majority of people have always said she's no dummy.

[I doubt it]

Oh, well. ALV's 3rd edition was supposed to be released today, but hasn't yet.

[Freethinker]

she must have boatload of pent-up anxiety, nervous energy, panic... dam about to burst

She's frantic to get her project done. That's obvious.

[M Joy]

Stark contrast between Alyce and Dr. DeMarte. Even greater contrast when you think of how much time we spent on Snow White. In retrospect, Juan made a good move in bringing that up just to show the difference in professionalism.

Agreed. If you look at ALV's CV, she focused a lot on fairy tales in her career

[dizzyp]

Poor killer doesn't even fit in with her own kind.

It is rumoured that the mafia leader Al Capone had an IQ of 200. An example of a criminal with a verified exceptional intelligence (IQ 170, at age 10) is the Unabomber Theodore Kaczynski. He was a successful researcher in mathematics before he turned against the society. Other famous high IQ scorers among the criminals are Richard Loeb (child iq 160) and Nathan Leopold (child iq 210) at the beginning of the 20th century.

Ted Bundy IQ-124 "exceptional"