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Thread: Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

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    She's not holding a weapon but you can carry a concealed weapon...or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    Good I'm glad m not the only one who didn't see anything, I was starting to get worried.
    I don't know how many 1000,s of pages it is back but this thread had a huge debate about the whole iris thing. I, for one, never saw anything in those damn photos!!
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    Along with an assortment of candy that would make Willy Wonka hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coconut View Post
    Their story is very weak, but the stipulation props it up a little bit for me. I always imagined she had the knife & gun with her when she took the photos, maybe in her pockets. She blinds him with the flash in his eyes and then stabs. As a juror, if the judge instructs me that she is unarmed in a photo right before the killing, that makes it harder for me to think she planned it.
    So you're saying because she has no weapons in her hand in that photo, that you suddenly find it less likely that she has the knife in say, her pocket?

    I don't think you've ever needed help to believe the defense case. ;-) You're a pretty staunch proponent of their theories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMY1 View Post
    She's not holding a weapon but you can carry a concealed weapon...or two.
    yea, i think she had the knife strapped to herself where he couldnt see it

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    She's proven through tapes and the nasty photos that she's got plenty of "hiding places!"

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    That's why the gun misfired...the bullets were wet because she hid the .25 cal in her vag!

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    @lisam who said:
    I don't know. But I cringed for her when she was testifying and mentioned she visited with JA while she was in AZ for her daughter's wedding. I think it creates a sticky situation with billing. Like did the state pick up the flight/travel costs & lodging (if she stayed in a hotel).

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    Lisa! Oh excellent thinking! That could very well be it and if not,they should look into it. This something I would not put past her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigiann View Post
    @lisam who said:
    I don't know. But I cringed for her when she was testifying and mentioned she visited with JA while she was in AZ for her daughter's wedding. I think it creates a sticky situation with billing. Like did the state pick up the flight/travel costs & lodging (if she stayed in a hotel).

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    Lisa! Oh excellent thinking! That could very well be it and if not,they should look into it. This something I would not put past her.
    Oops! Cat's got her tongue I think you're on to something. Poor ALV always the bridesmaid...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PopRocks View Post
    yea, i think she had the knife strapped to herself where he couldnt see it
    Pop Rocks, those naked JA pics prove she could have hidden a fucking butcher's block if she'd desired to to so!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgathaAppleswine View Post
    So you're saying because she has no weapons in her hand in that photo, that you suddenly find it less likely that she has the knife in say, her pocket?

    I don't think you've ever needed help to believe the defense case. ;-) You're a pretty staunch proponent of their theories.
    We know she had the weapons somewhere on her person. But the judge didn't point that out to the jury, she just said she Jodi not have a gun or knife in her hands, full stop. I think that ambiguity helps the defense more than the prosecution.

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    Help me with something I'm struggling with. We all know Jodi went to mesa with premeditation. When she got there, why didn't she just shoot him and get out? She fell asleep in his arms. She could have shot him in his sleep. Jodi's a loon. Why would she shoot AND stab him? Overkill beyond a doubt. But why? Was there only one bullet? Do you think the gun jammed if she used it first? Why would she do all that stabby stuff? Just shoot him and leave, bitch!

    I think I have read and thought of so many reasons why. But I just don't get this bitch.

    Please share your thoughts. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigiann View Post
    Help me with something I'm struggling with. We all know Jodi went to mesa with premeditation. When she got there, why didn't she just shoot him and get out? She fell asleep in his arms. She could have shot him in his sleep. Jodi's a loon. Why would she shoot AND stab him? Overkill beyond a doubt. But why? Was there only one bullet? Do you think the gun jammed if she used it first? Why would she do all that stabby stuff? Just shoot him and leave, bitch!

    I think I have read and thought of so many reasons why. But I just don't get this bitch.

    Please share your thoughts. Thanks
    I live in AZ. Maybe I should get out my son's Toys R Us metal detector from 10 years ago and go searching for that jammed gun?? What do you think the yahoos at HLN would pay for that interview? I need to borrow some double AA's. Haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigiann View Post
    Help me with something I'm struggling with. We all know Jodi went to mesa with premeditation. When she got there, why didn't she just shoot him and get out? She fell asleep in his arms. She could have shot him in his sleep. Jodi's a loon. Why would she shoot AND stab him? Overkill beyond a doubt. But why? Was there only one bullet? Do you think the gun jammed if she used it first? Why would she do all that stabby stuff? Just shoot him and leave, bitch!

    I think I have read and thought of so many reasons why. But I just don't get this bitch.

    Please share your thoughts. Thanks
    I think with the way Jodi thinks, she wanted to punish him. This was a personal attack. She wanted him to know how *he* made her feel. She probably actually believed he was courting her. (Who uses that word anymore?) And when it finally hit her that he was going to Cancun with Mimi, she wasn't going to have it and she was going to let him know that she wasn't going to have it. She had to have her say in all of it.

    I think she went there knowing it was going to end in one of two ways. She would seduce him and he'd change his mind about taking Mimi to Cancun or she was going to kill him. I can almost see the little wheels turning in her head and writing all this down in her stupid journal to figure it all out. I really think she packed up to leave and came back and gave him one last chance to change his mind. When he didn't, she flipped out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigiann View Post
    Help me with something I'm struggling with. We all know Jodi went to mesa with premeditation. When she got there, why didn't she just shoot him and get out? She fell asleep in his arms. She could have shot him in his sleep. Jodi's a loon. Why would she shoot AND stab him? Overkill beyond a doubt. But why? Was there only one bullet? Do you think the gun jammed if she used it first? Why would she do all that stabby stuff? Just shoot him and leave, bitch!

    I think I have read and thought of so many reasons why. But I just don't get this bitch.

    Please share your thoughts. Thanks
    Well she got to his house late at night (4am?), so i dont think she would have wanted to kill him point blank because that would have woke everyone up in the house. To me i think killing him was the last resort, i think maybe she went over there with the intention of trying to get him back, which is why she brought pictures over and all that..I think if he chose to get back with her that day, she wouldnt have killed him, which is why she probably was willing to have sex with him, but once it became clear to her that it wasnt happening, i think she went forward with her plan

    I think she did the overkill because travis was probably fighting back alot and wasnt stopping, so in order to tame him she had to keep stabbing him

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    Placroix says:
    I live in AZ. Maybe I should get out my son's Toys R Us metal detector from 10 years ago and go searching for that jammed gun?? What do you think the yahoos at HLN would pay for that interview? I need to borrow some double AA's. Haha.
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    Welp I don't know about the yahoos at HLN but I am sure the people of AZ would rather pay you $250/hr and kick in a state of the art metal detector to find it.
    :)

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    It seems as though the defense gets all of it's ideas for it's case off of forums and the internet? Can they not come up with their defense strategy on their own? Nurmi wouldn't have brought up the reflection in the eye had he not read it somewhere on the net. Geez.

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    Shorter Alyce "Even if I had video of her slashing tires, sneaking in the doggie door, peeping through windows, slapping and kicking her mother I would still say Stabby farts rainbows and unicorns"[/QUOTE]

    If only she would fart unicorns. There'd be no need for a trial & her only televised moment would be a short appearance on the children's programme "Horrible Histories" in their "Stupid Deaths" segment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigiann View Post
    Help me with something I'm struggling with. We all know Jodi went to mesa with premeditation. When she got there, why didn't she just shoot him and get out? She fell asleep in his arms. She could have shot him in his sleep. Jodi's a loon. Why would she shoot AND stab him? Overkill beyond a doubt. But why? Was there only one bullet? Do you think the gun jammed if she used it first? Why would she do all that stabby stuff? Just shoot him and leave, bitch!

    I think I have read and thought of so many reasons why. But I just don't get this bitch.

    Please share your thoughts. Thanks
    When she first got there she said she asked him if anyone was home and he told her one flatmate was.

    Maybe she did go to shoot him first but the gun jammed so she picked up her knife. Maybe she brought the knife as a backup as she didn't really have experience with a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tan View Post
    Just catching up on court today,I personally liked that Juan bought up the fact that she is using Twitter through someone else,that should be a big NO NO. She really does see herself as bigger then the law,meh.
    Juan is so smart, he got it before the Judge and on the record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishmich View Post
    I think with the way Jodi thinks, she wanted to punish him. This was a personal attack. She wanted him to know how *he* made her feel. She probably actually believed he was courting her. (Who uses that word anymore?) And when it finally hit her that he was going to Cancun with Mimi, she wasn't going to have it and she was going to let him know that she wasn't going to have it. She had to have her say in all of it.

    I think she went there knowing it was going to end in one of two ways. She would seduce him and he'd change his mind about taking Mimi to Cancun or she was going to kill him. I can almost see the little wheels turning in her head and writing all this down in her stupid journal to figure it all out. I really think she packed up to leave and came back and gave him one last chance to change his mind. When he didn't, she flipped out.
    I agree with all of this. Jodi has come across as a setting-people-straight kinda gal, so I think your description of her motive is right on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    No pictchfork crickets, Jury questions show they get it, they are clear.
    if he was so clear the question basket would be empty

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    Hmmm ok. These are all good and you all are pretty close in theory. But I still don't get the brutality of it all. So there was major anger and I can just see her with her face all contorted with anger as she sliced him over and over. We've heard the theory to wash off DNA from his body but holy shit the place was a blood bath. She had enough forethought to ditch the sheets in the wash, their "stuff" would have been all over them. The Fog lifted long enough for her to think of that. She gets more despicable every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigiann View Post
    Hmmm ok. These are all good and you all are pretty close in theory. But I still don't get the brutality of it all. So there was major anger and I can just see her with her face all contorted with anger as she sliced him over and over. We've heard the theory to wash off DNA from his body but holy shit the place was a blood bath. She had enough forethought to ditch the sheets in the wash, their "stuff" would have been all over them. The Fog lifted long enough for her to think of that. She gets more despicable every day.
    I don't think she expected all the blood nor did she expect him to crawl down a hallway. I'm sure when she figured it in her mind, she didn't figure it that way. During her interviews, she would comment on things she saw on TV. I think she figured out the hard way that it's not like on TV. If he didn't have roommates, I think she would have spent more time cleaning up. She figured that any hair or fibers could be explained away in that she was always at his house. She didn't see the bloody palm print. That was her undoing. Well, that and the camera. I think in her race to get traces of her gone, she didn't realize she scooped up the camera and stuck it in the wash. If it dawned on her later, I'm sure she figured everything was erased or would be ruined anyway. She sure wasn't sweating it at all. Cool as a cucumber. Those types are fucking scary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigiann View Post
    Placroix says:
    I live in AZ. Maybe I should get out my son's Toys R Us metal detector from 10 years ago and go searching for that jammed gun?? What do you think the yahoos at HLN would pay for that interview? I need to borrow some double AA's. Haha.
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    Welp I don't know about the yahoos at HLN but I am sure the people of AZ would rather pay you $250/hr and kick in a state of the art metal detector to find it.
    :)
    We really do have "spy stores" in AZ. Maybe Mr Martinez and I can take a trip and put my state of the art metal detector on layaway. At the AZ taxpayers expense of course.

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