Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

[hatchan]

“I can only assume that mortal emotions amuse you because you have none of your own.”

okay everyone, last response to this
can you only quote others? man you must be really hungry!

[Peace Corpse]

Something is going down on Monday or Tuesday. It makes me very nervous that the Defense is asking for so many mistrials. Considering the media circus surrounding this trial and the social media frenzy, and Jodi's Tweets, Art Sales that is perpetuating media madness and also threatens to harm expert witnesses, it doesn't look good for either side. Worried that one of those mistrial requests might stick. If I were Judge Sherry, I would stop televising the trial immediately. It's causing way too many problems for both the Defense and Prosecution and Witnesses. End it now. I would miss watching it...as we all would, of course. Justice trumps Entertainment or rather it should.

[loonywop]

Hilarious...that you both are so thrilled that I made a spelling mistake....but my human error (which I can bet all of us of have been guilty of) has nothing to do with this thread or the murder of Travis Alexander that we all profess to care about so completely...correct?

no violet spelling nazis are very important to this thread don't ya know?

[wasthinking]

YOU ROCK SO HARD! and i am so sorry for HORROR you've had to experience....

so do you, thank God someone has a sane definition of support.
I think Alyce has unleashed her elementary pals and kept them out late.

[elamir]

At the start of the thread there is this....


Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

Creating a new thread as the other one was crapping out the forum.

Please remember to stay on topic. Don't make it harder for your fellow posters to keep up by derailing the thread with off-topic chatter. Blatantly off-topic posts will be deleted. Be nice to other forum members. All opinions and theories are acceptable. Just because someone has a different opinion than your own doesn't make it wrong. Keep all disagreements civil and do not resort to name calling, flame wars, smite attacks, or other pissing matches. Thanks!

Original MDS Article

Carry on! Play nicely!



This thread will get locked again if people wont and can't post like adults and just follow the rules, it really isn't that hard. I'm not trying to tell anyone but I really want to see this thread open on Monday.

[hatchan]

all you DO IS GRIND!
you must be Mormon.....

Grinding is emotion too, ya know?

[Peace Corpse]

okay everyone, last response to this
can you only quote others? man you must be really hungry!

Still trying to amuse yourself, I see. So glad you understood...now let's get back to the topic of this thread which is Jodi Arias and Travis Alexander shall we? See my latest post above and Elamir's. Thanks love.

[Mousy]

I've reposted that many times, Elamir. Many, many times. I've tried staying on topic but someone managed to go full retard.

[Mousy]

Still trying to amuse yourself. So glad you understood...now let's get back to the topic of this thread which is Jodi Arias and Travis Alexander shall we? See my latest post above and Elamir's. Thanks love.

Hereon out full on Team Travis love.

[loonywop]

I remember her saying that if JM were in her group, she would have given him a time out. In my opinion, JM was overly aggressive with her. If you want to get the answers you want, you don't intimidate a witness to do so... you gently proceed and suck it out of them step by step. Don't think she played dumb re: yes or no questions. I think in her mind and expertise and the incomplete evidence the defense gave her....that it was impossible for her to answer yes or no in some cases. Also keep in mind that this case is not the "burning bed" scenario which was an obvious case of horrific domestic abuse. She had to deal with pathological Jodi with the juxtaposition of the Hughes testimony and other friends.... from Travis text messages and phonecalls, diaries etc.

Alyce is entitled to her opinion and diagnosis based on the information she was given by the defense...which was obviously incomplete to their and her demise.

I agree and he asks leading questions that are not yes or no that would lock her in and he would then nail her to the cross.it's not that your scrambled it deserves an explanation Martinez thinks it's a black and white world and AL see's the color blue.Martinez doesn't like the color blue it has to be black or white.

[Jadedmile]

This is interesting. Now I understand why Juan begins his cross examination with the expert witnesses the way he does.



They could argue that death threats & the sheer size of the onslaught against her is enough to change the manner in which she testifies, simply by causing her to be stressed and/or distracted, couldn't they? Whether you think she deserves every last word of it, none of you really believe she could possibly be completely unaffected by it do you? She's 65 isn't she? That's my mother's age, maybe my mum & her friends are overly dramatic, but they seem to have high blood pressure & multiple other medical dramas when something mildly stressful occurs. I expect death threats & thousands of condemning or abusive emails & ph calls would be more than mildly stressful?

I think her views came across as antiquated & her manner as difficult & obstructive, but she is testifying at trial. If there's an issue with her claims &/or behaviour, the judge & jury will let her know when the verdict is handed down. If her statements & behaviour on the stand are a serious issue, her professional community, colleagues & clients will deal with that - after & separate to the trial. I do not support her arguments at all but I think this might be bigger than many realise & that it could be even more of an issue for future trials. If this continues as it has been, this trial may become the catalyst for change because the fallout is going to be longlasting. Media classes will study this trial & the huge online response it provoked.

It makes no difference what she said, how she said it & whether she deserves what is said & done in response to her testimony.The attacks on this defense witness, in this trial will make potential defense witnesses in future trials consider their willingness to testify very, very carefully & some will simply refuse. "So what, killers don't deserve help" many will say, but some defendants are innocent & this will affect the innocent as much as it does the guilty.

No matter how we feel about the rigid belief system of this particular witness, the massive"backlash" aimed squarely at her HAS to affect the willingness to testify of defense witnesses who come after her. If the defense in this trial WAS intending to call other witnesses after her, do you think they'd be willing to appear after this? Or do you think they'd rather risk being jailed for contempt? (I have no idea if that's an option for reluctant defense witnesses in the U.S, it's just an example of how far some may now be prepared to go, to avoid a similar situation).

Interesting. I do think the public backlash will make judges re-think cameras in the courtroom.


I was surprised at how little thought LaViolette seemed to give to the possible reasons that Travis didn't end it completely with someone he seemed to grow to have true contempt for.

Yeah, I really don't understand torturing oneself by visiting the pro-Jodi sight, and then torturing all of us with re-caps from it.

I hate HLN even more now.[/QUOTE]
OMG, I swear, this makes me want to totally abandon watching HLN at all! Awful, and they nailed it, HLN DOES do their news in a "talk show" format; talk about unprofessional! The only ones I like on their anyway are Robin Mead and Jennifer (the business lady)... Wow, just Wow! Amazing how they twist the news, kinda just like Jodi!!!

[Jadedmile]

Ok, my reply totally tweaked out...

I was trying to only reply to the Channel 12 News video... weird. Oops!

[olgasbunghole]

so do you, thank God someone has a sane definition of support.
I think Alyce has unleashed her elementary pals and kept them out late.

I believe you're right! ALV bizarre rantings and trolling way to hard for exchanges!! coo coo for coco puffs!

[gigiann]

Re Tuesday court
Did you all get JW's memo about the party?

[Mousy]

@Jadedsmile. Haven't been able to watch HLN for a while. I remember watching it once while Nancy Grace was saying "we're live at the court house" when the online stream was obviously off, and I was like "ugh..." As if anyone is being fooled with the 'pause/play' feature. If I hear one more 'bombshell tonight'... I might scream. Then again I already do that during the trial. I literally facepalmed though as she was whispering over a replay of Juan.

[wasthinking]

I believe you're right! ALV bizarre rantings and trolling way to hard for exchanges!! coo coo for coco puffs!

Monday isn't far off and there will be more Alyce to tornment the family. Im off to make poppym some pictures. Night!

[Jadedmile]

Well, that's 2 on my Ignore List; there should be an age requirement to join... These two (Violet-full-of-hot-air-Planet, and little Mousy with the big Mouthy) are just little girls, so we're like fighting with kids here... As a parent, I'm inclined to "Ignore", y'all should too before the thread gets shut down AGAIN... Some people's kids...

[Mousy]

I believe you're right! ALV bizarre rantings and trolling way to hard for exchanges!! coo coo for coco puffs!

You do realize you commented to me two nights ago with this, right? "I agree with you 100% And I hope that Travis' loved ones get at least a little bit of comfort knowing that there are soooooooooo many strangers out there that believe he was the ONLY victim, and that we are pulling for them to be able to stay strong through this trial!" But, you know, I'm obviously a troll.

[Mousy]

Reposting what I wrote a few nights ago:
I'm laughing with you, olgasbunghole. That whole website is such a complete joke and everyone on it is a complete waste of oxygen.

Which is interesting because they're supporting a woman who has been abusive towards animals (admitted) and finally admitted blame when it came to killing Travis. But, you know, a potential serial killer is vulnerable - until they stab you in the back, the heart, the neck, and slice it open and then jumping on another guy a few hours later because they were 'single' and then trying to cover their trail. Because, you know, people who are concerned with something like this happening again are more interested in beating children - right?


I believe it was during my last trimester when I heard what Jodi might have done and I've been lurking on this website ever since on and off. The more and more I learned about it, the more my heart sank. There are people spewing hatred for people who support Travis. Travis' grandmother didn't deserve this. Travis' sisters didn't deserve this. Napoleon didn't deserve this. Travis' friends didn't deserve this. The state of Arizona didn't deserve this and above everything else Travis Alexander did not deserve it. You could tell she stalked him because as soon as he would post a blog full of his thoughts she would mirror him maybe a day later. A few days before she killed him she made a youtube account, and a few days after they discovered him she uploaded a video to that account. I don't know the guy but it pains me to know how his family and those closest to him must have been feeling all through these years and what they still have to be enduring. I commend Juror 11 for holding out as long as he did.

I think about how the grandmother must have felt to have lost a child and on top of that lost her grandchild because of a woman who just couldn't stand to hear the word 'no.'

The ones who support Travis Alexander do not 'beat' children, but I have to realize this is coming from JAII - a website full of half-witted people whose intention is to get their dick wet Jodi gets out of jail. Because, you know, everyone wants to tour the grand canyon. But I digress ... Even though I can say inappropriate comments this whole trial caused me to be more protective of my son. But I guess an abusive parent goes out of her way to make sure their child has a clean house to live in and Super Mario decor in a toddler room. As a parent I can say I think all men, women, and children would feel a lot safer if Jodi did not see the light of day ever again especially with her abusive habits towards animals. She definitely could never be a baby sitter, that's for sure. If a dog ripping open a trash can set her off - who knows what would? Telling women in prison other stories about that it was self defense and that she had to dispose of his body through the desert.

1) Starving her coworkers pet cat.
2) Kicking her dog, no yelp, it 'running away never to be seen.'
3) Leaving Napoleon locked up helpless knowing his owner is dead.

Earlier today there was something about me not knowing who that Wong chick was. I live on the east coast, I have a child to tend, physical therapy sessions, a house to maintain, and dinner to put on the table. I miss things and I'm glad I have a lot of the diligent members of this site to keep me updated and for that I'm grateful. If it wasn't for Bermstalker, Coconut, Wasthinking, Brillig, Morticia, Harlette, Metis, Justice and a lot of the other dedicated & awesome members of this website I would be completely lost. Hence the reason why I am hesitant and that one time I said, "idk." I have a life and I am not on a support website of a murderer who gets off making fun of a slaughtered man in a body bag. Priorities, you know.

So, glad to see the Jodi Arias supporters have the thoughts of abusing children and drowning them in their head. But, you know, I guess since it's affiliated with the Casey Anthony is innocent site they would know a thing or two about child abuse - wouldn't they?

[loonywop]

It's why were here!

someone peed in wasthinking's cheerios

[I doubt it]

Nothing passive-aggressive about it. Just posting what I know from METIS. She has stated over and over again that she's a psychiatrist. A psychiatrist is not a psychotherapist. I am sure she will admit to that unless she wants to keep any other degrees she has private. I disagree re: Alyce was trying to garner sympathy. JM's tone throughout this whole trial has been extremely aggressive. Actually, an expert witness for the prosecution or defense does have the right to question how they are being spoken to. However, Alyce should have complained directly to her defense team and the judge in private if she could not handle JM's tone. Notice he calmed down after a few sidebars towards the end...so...someone said something and that something worked to calm him down.

He wasn't angry at all. She had her attacks pre-planned and she used them inappropriately, after only a few questions. Juan was asking standard questions for an expert witness, such as credentials, and what materials she was basing her conclusions on. Approaching Samantha when she did was probably another ploy to get him riled.
All she did was make herself look like a snarky, lying b*tch who can't answer a simple question a simple answer, just like Jodi.
And even when was "calmed down" as you say, her behavior never changed.

[Peace Corpse]

VP, did you read this? Re-read it again in case it didn't stick. Have a good night/morning, folks. I'm off to bed. :-D

So now your whole hypothesis about verbal /emotional / sexual abuse in general that you relayed to me in our previous discussions, no longer matters? AL concentrates on this based on the evidence given to her by the Defense, right? As you so eloquently pointed out to me, it does matter to the abused and the abuser.

[hatchan]

Re Tuesday court
Did you all get JW's memo about the party?

Bawahahahahahaha! I likes a party!

saffron: No matter how we feel about the rigid belief system of this particular witness, the massive"backlash" aimed squarely at her HAS to affect the willingness to testify of defense witnesses who come after her. If the defense in this trial WAS intending to call other witnesses after her, do you think they'd be willing to appear after this? Or do you think they'd rather risk being jailed for contempt? (I have no idea if that's an option for reluctant defense witnesses in the U.S, it's just an example of how far some may now be prepared to go, to avoid a similar situation).

Certianly, exp wits SHOULD take testifying very seriously, and BRING their integrity with them to the courtroom. If she had just answered the damn questions honestly, and let the DT worry about the issues in their recross, the Fairy Godawful Mother Alyce could not have done so much damage to herself and the case. She was trying to control everything, instead of keeping an eye on justice and her own ethics. She is ridge and antiquated. Obviously, written communication, ESP when it is instantaneous, IM's, mInternet, texts and such are something that FGM Alyce has limited experience with. The boundaries are very different. It is illustrated daily on social media. Fairy Godawful Mother Alyce is much more Grimm than Disney.

[Mousy]

He wasn't angry at all. She had her attacks pre-planned and she used them inappropriately, after only a few questions. Juan was asking standard questions for an expert witness, such as credentials, and what materials she was basing her conclusions on. Approaching Samantha when she did was probably another ploy to get him riled.
All she did was make herself look like a snarky, lying b*tch who can't answer a simple question a simple answer, just like Jodi.
And even when was "calmed down" as you say, her behavior never changed.

Well, technically the only time she could answer a question off the bat is with Wilma. It's a bit off to go from saying you 'don't know' or you 'misspoke' about the closet to 'yes... yes... yes... yes.'

Oh, man. But some of the final things the Judge said to Alyce...about not caring about her personal issues. What did Alyce say? She had some kind of appointments? I wonder what day she is coming in.

[Peace Corpse]

I agree and he asks leading questions that are not yes or no that would lock her in and he would then nail her to the cross.it's not that your scrambled it deserves an explanation Martinez thinks it's a black and white world and AL see's the color blue.Martinez doesn't like the color blue it has to be black or white.

Exactly....JM uses overly aggressive tone with word play baiting techniques . Very clever...I just hope he gets the whole truth and nothing but....