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Thread: Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChelseyDawn View Post
    SHE JUST ANSWERED THAT WITH A NO?!?!?! What a great question! Jodi was the greater abuser here - Travis is dead, not Jodi. And LaVi answered that NO?!?! Worst moment for LaVi ever... OMG!
    can you recap that q&a for me? totally missed it and it sounds epic.

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    JW just said "oh I'm lost" and then judge takes a break? Way to save her on that one!

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    Did Willmott just forget what they were talking about?

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    Bwahaha JW so rattled and flustered she can't recall her question and Judge saves her with a 10 min recess
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    How 'bout Judge Stevens giving Willmott a break as she fumbles for words to spit out of her mouth & try to compose herself... by calling a recess

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    HAHA on JW forgetting the question she wanted to ask and looking like a fool. Also loving that the mic just picked up her saying, "Oh, yeah." when she remembered. Wanker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppym View Post
    "Men give love to get sex, and Women give sex to get love!"

    Sorry but this is abhorrent! I don't think I've ever heard anything so incredibly insulting to men!

    It could only be said by someone who DOESN'T KNOW MEN AT ALL!
    Wow. I'm speechless.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    i was just thinking the same thing she sounds so panicked and flustered
    She is VERY angry at the jury. She is really showing it. Not a good plan.
    I also think she is trying to be like Martinez.
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    Judge Stephens is probably embarrassed FOR her. I half expected JW's head to pop off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McMama View Post
    Haha. On the contrary, my husband thought that quote was pretty spot on. I think the world would be blind to not see this, in some form, to be true.
    It might be true of SOME men, but it isn't true of mine, or many other men I know. The problem with a statement like that is that it's general and sweeping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    Ok so I know JM gets to follow up after JW is done... but does JW get one last crack at her after that? I hope not.
    I wanna say that I think the defense gets the last word.


    Quote Originally Posted by Saffron View Post
    Same here. I think that Jodi having hit her brother with a baseball bat, having a history of hitting and kicking her mother and screaming at her mother routinely up until the time she killed Travis really shows a pattern of anger and violence and perhaps lack of impulse control. I can't understand LaViolette not considering any of that.
    Because Jodi is a female and females are not capable of inflicting abuse; unless they are inflicting it on Jodi of course; so Mama Arias is an abuser, of Jodi.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PopRocks View Post
    obviously the money from this trial is more important to her than everything shes worked for thus far
    she offered up that she has no retirement fund...... I bet the jury loved that one!

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    JW ordered into timeout by smirking judge for laughing at a murder one trial. 10 minute recess. TA family's patience continues to boggle the mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppym View Post
    "Men give love to get sex, and Women give sex to get love!"

    Sorry but this is abhorrent! I don't think I've ever heard anything so incredibly insulting to men!

    It could only be said by someone who DOESN'T KNOW MEN AT ALL!
    Or someone who is viscerally repulsed by the very notion that men can give love! What a barren landscape this pathetic woman occupies! She needs the batterers to re-affirm her world view. That's why she's in the business she's in.
    Last edited by Ian 1; 04-12-2013 at 09:40 AM.
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    Alyce did great, she just gave the jury the motive, well done Alyce!!

    The fight on the 25/26 assassinated Jodi's soul.

    How much did the defence pay for this witness?

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    Someone needs to get JenJen a valium.

    Maybe two.

    And a whiskey chaser.



    Perhaps she is cranky because her suit today is fugly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocopop View Post
    Yep... she has lost control of this entire trial, no going back now, it's sink or swim
    & JW is doing the doggy paddle right now
    High school valley girl and her matching outfits just got her skirt pulled off in the cafeteria.
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    Juan can be angry and still stay focused, but Willmott can't pull it off at all. She shouldn't try to change personalities at this stage of the trial.

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    Now that her shot at 15 minutes is up, let her have her 10 minutes. Poor thing's earned it .

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    My hand hurts. That was fast.

    ‎4/‎12/‎13
    Morning Session
    Jodi is wearing white today. Looks kind of like a hospital gown. Jodi actually looks messed up and high as a kite this morning.

    Alyce is back on the stand.
    Jury Questions

    Please explain why you think Jodi is not munilipation? Based on the info I have
    Slurs, slaps and shoves on the other side a gunshot to head and stab wounds. Isn't Jodi the worst preparator that day? I think what happened to Travis is horrible. Self defense
    Isn't it likely Travis never hit Jodi that day when he wanted her to leave? I can only go by the information that I had
    Jodi confronting Bianca. Wouldn't that prove she was jealous? It wasn't a hostile event.
    Jodi snooped in Travis' stuff? Did you take that into consideration when making your decision? Yes
    You bought Jodi stuff. Did you do anything else? No nothing else
    Have you given her anything else? No
    Any physical contact with Jodi ever? IDK.
    How do you know Jodi got Spiderman underwear from Travis? The text messages between Jodi and Travis.
    How many men have you testified for? 1 or 2
    Would your opinion be any different if you didn't talk to Jodi but read everything? I would have come to the same decision.
    Would you have adjusted you belief in the level of abuse if you had seen everything? No
    What other sources have you seen abuse evidence from Travis? None
    Would your opinion be different if you found out the Pedo was made up? I still believe in my opinion
    Will messages tell you all the non verbal communication? No
    How do you know everything if you can't get both sides? I read so many things.
    Other sources said Jodi was not munlipative. Who were those sources? Matt and OG
    If somebody asks a simple question that requires a yes or no. Would that not be a leading? I'm not trying to be leading.
    Travis and stalking-How to you believe Jodi if she had no fearful behavior of him and kept seeing him? Battered women do that. Alyce doesn't think Travis was stalked
    No jury will ever convict me. Is that somebody with low self esteem says? A foolish statement.
    Abuse-there is no proof other than Jodi's word? Its the written word where he called her words
    Do you handle cases where the female is the abuser? Yes
    Does Travis discuss abuse in his jornal? No
    Was Travis stalked by anyone else? Don't believe so
    How many cases have you testified in for men? 3 or 4
    What is the manifeso you refer to? IDK I've never seen it
    Is there a type of stalking that makes someone afraid sometimes and not sometimes? (Ugh a long story from Alyce about disbelief)
    Are you aware that Jodi threathen Travis about exposing his Pedo? No
    Does that mean anything to you? Yes
    How would Jodi write about things in her diary to lie if it was after the killing? (Sorry, I got confused with that question) Alyce says she doesn't see a plan
    What was the BS story that Jodi told Travis? Travis was cheating
    Where did you get the info? From the text and what Jodi said
    Travis was lying in the message. How do you know? I read the info from Lisa
    How can you know Jodi's BS story was not a lie? I don't know
    How do you know Travis only wanted to fight with Jodi before the backpack trip? I didn't know that.
    Explain how Jodi can remember the abuse but doesn't write it in her diary? I can't explain. Women remember abuse
    Writings could support her statements. Couldn't the statements now be a secondary gain to benefit Jodi not? Possible
    DO you have any evidence that Travis made her tear out pages? No
    Did you interview somebody from Jodi's past? Nobody. I read stuff
    Tell us Travis' side of the story? By law....I can't interview Travis' family. I read stuff.
    Stalking could fall under the abuse columns in your traits, why was it excluded? This was not stalking. I just use it for training. Travis kept seeing her-not stalking.
    Is you chart imcomplete? Yes it is incomplete. I keep changing it
    Did you take this case b/c you believed Jodi? Yes
    Would you turn it down if you didn't? Yes
    Don't you by default walk in believeing it? No (long talk) I just investgate at first before I take it.
    Brust of anger-is it possible Travis' rants seem longer b/c they are in text form? No-they go on forever
    What does a brust of anger mean? It's what happens during the brust. (Long story)
    Can a couple be in a healthy relationship if they argue all day? Yes

    Is it possible for two people in a relationship to be abusive? Yes
    Travis making comments about 2 yr old girl during a sex call is different than PEDO with little boys? Weird for a 30 yr old man to talk about
    Your knowledge on June 4-light or detailed? Probably know enough
    Are you confused on any of the details of that afternoon of the murder? I was but not anymore
    Do you think it's lying if they are not sharing their lives with friends or family? Most people keep details private
    Why do you think Travis keeping his personal/sexual things private is lying? I don't think it is, just b/c he's Mormon and lies about it
    Was Jodi sharing her sex stuff with friends and family? No
    Was that lying then? No
    Jodi lies started after the killing, how do you know this? I go on the stuff I read and Matt and OG
    sexual gratification with Travis? (did not get this whole question)
    sexual gratification- (did not get this whole question)
    The written stuff, excluding the interview with Jodi-Would you see abuse? Yes
    What level would you place it at? The verbal abuse was bad.
    Only text-was there an esclation? yes
    Travis and Deanne-Did anybody interview her? IDK
    Did you inteview her? No

    Ugh more juror questions in the basket.

    Is it possible your definition of munilpation differs from others? Yes
    (did not get this questions but it was about manipulation)
    Are hitting and kicking your parents normal behavior? Not apprioate

    Palin is up
    Normal teenaged behavior- Now they are explaining that b/c you hit or kick your mother does not mean you grow up to be an abuser.
    Sexually degraded- Alyce says Jodi and Travis' relationship was a battering relationship. Jodi told Alyce she was a "whore for those" feelings from Travis.
    IM-The 16 page one with Travis-Alyce said that was all character assissnation.
    Phone sex and 12 yr old girl- Alyce says either way they are both considered children.

    Now they are talking about Alyce's chart. Women would remember abuse without writing it down.
    Last edited by bermstalker; 04-12-2013 at 09:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppym View Post
    It might be true of SOME men, but it isn't true of mine, or many other men I know. The problem with a statement like that is that it's general and sweeping.
    mine only says that when I have a headache and just wanna go to sleep! ha ha ha ha

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppym View Post
    It might be true of SOME men, but it isn't true of mine, or many other men I know. The problem with a statement like that is that it's general and sweeping.
    But, it's not necessarily insulting.

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    Wilmott breaks out in song while standing next to Jodi. "I'm crazy for trying and crazy for crying and I'm crazy for believing you."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChelseyDawn View Post
    WOW I have NEVER seen Willmott so panicked and angry as she is right now. I kind of love it...

    meeeeeeeeee tooooooooooooo!

    lol, I'm dying here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Person View Post
    JW ordered into timeout by smirking judge for laughing at a murder one trial. 10 minute recess. TA family's patience continues to boggle the mind.
    Amen to that. When I discuss this with my b/f I say it on a daily basis. I'd be in prison by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBlonde View Post
    I wanna say that I think the defense gets the last word.




    Because Jodi is a female and females are not capable of inflicting abuse; unless they are inflicting it on Jodi of course; so Mama Arias is an abuser, of Jodi.
    yup, mama's fault the little drugged out daughter kicks her.
    It's Travis' fault he's dead
    It's the DT's fault I'm the worst witness in the Guinness book
    It's mens fault I dont have a retirement fund
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