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    Quote Originally Posted by elamir View Post
    Just remembered one of the most stunning comments from ALV from yesterday...

    "Just because Jodi lied, doesn't make her a liar"

    O'rly?
    is that an exact quote? because I missed that. I want to use it in my signature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian 1 View Post
    "June 15, 2008

    My Dear Travis,

    I don't know how I can go on without you. I am so grateful you came to my home when you were 8 years old to live with me. We had many happy times together, you were an easy boy to raise, and a great young man. It was a pleasure to be your grandmother. I will always love you......Mummum.

    Norma Sarvey,Riverside,
    California."


    Geez! Nary a hint of growing pot on the roof, kicking her in the shins, lying, etc. How did Alyce manage to overlook this part? It's all right here.

    http://www.travisalexanderjustice.com/memorial


    Alyce has the "Jodi blinders" on... and they're stuck

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    I know it's been posted before hundreds of pages back, but does anyone have a rebuttal witness list?

    Also, Jodi's journal entries from after the murder only came out recently, right? I don't think the jury has seen them (correct me if I'm wrong) and Alyce said yesterday she hasn't seen them. Since Jodi basically writes lies in them ("OMG I just found out Travis was killed, who would do such a thing?" etc.) I wonder why this is. Both sides used the journals a lot, why not the COMPLETE journal? Was the defense somehow able to keep them out? If so, why?

    Lots of questions this morning!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morticia View Post
    I coincidently stumbled on this crazy trial on the first day with opening statements. I think I've only missed two days of testimony since then and, like any good addict, have not been able to stop!! My house practically looks like a candidate for "Hoarders". OK, not that bad, but it's getting there. I feel like I hit "bottom" this morning when I woke up and felt the darkness of it all. I stepped away from the livestream today and found out that it's springtime out there and that there are normal and pleasant people in the world! I'm feeling thankful that no matter how awful this case may be, life is pretty sweet.
    House is a disaster, I look like shit, and I forgot to pay my mortgage. I do some stuff in the AM then a little more during the lunch break, but I MUST keep up with MDS too. Hope it moves along once JM starts Rebuttal. After 2 months of defense bullshit, I am ready for the focus of this trial to get back to the horrendous murder of Travis Alexander.

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    tia said:

    Jodi better journal or do whatever she can to remember each and every moment of her days in court because soon that is all they will be, distant memories. It will be the last time she wears street clothes, the last time she rides the prison bus, the last time she gets to interact with people on the outside on a daily basis. These will be part of her "good old days" that she will be talking about forever. I can only imagine how she will embellish these stories when she tells them to her new friends on death row. Might be difficult in solitary confinement....but I'm sure she will find a way to get her stories to the others...afterall I'm sure they have a right to know how bad she has had it!
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    Hey tia... I was nodding in agreement the whole time I was reading your comment!
    I have been thinking the exact same thing. Soon she'll be on death row alone in a cell (smaller than Travis' closet) 23 hours a day with only 3 showers a week and 1 hour a day outside alone. No more than one allowed outside at a time on death row. She's about to lose her BFF JW soon. The last person who left her was slaughtered and Alyce will no longer be paid $250 hr to visit Jodi, so we can pretty much say bye bye to nurse LaV and Dr Dick too. As they say on SNL buh bye!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dizzyp View Post
    I know a ton about AL's life and could easily weave a "story" about what it means and call it a "double life". It would be just that though; a story cobbled together with bits of information that reaches a conclusion based on conjecture... which is what she did in this case. Like I've said before, IMO, her approach is to start with a conclusion and interpret facts to support that conclusion.
    That is exactly what she has done! My favorite jury question was the one that called her out on giving Jodi "little warm smiles" during sidebars. This jury is trying to send the message that they get it! I think Jodi is going to need her migraine medication today. If she thinks this is bad...just wait till Juan gets to closing arguments!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBlonde View Post
    Shoot, I forgot to mention that WAT left this message on his twitter:


    WildAboutTrial ‏@WildAboutTrial 1h

    Still shocked at what happened to me last night.. what a shame I can't share with you all. Morning! Ready for more #JodiArias today?




    I am soooooooo curious as to what that is about!
    Me too...maybe Juan Martinez said "listening to Jennifer Willmott's redirect is worse than an anal probe." (The cameraman caught an epic eyeroll from him during her redirect and he rocked back in his chair an "OMG please just kill me now!" look on his face.)

    I've been trying to figure out how to post it w/no luck...

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    mortica says:

    . I think I've only missed two days of testimony since then and, like any good addict, have not been able to stop!! My house practically looks like a candidate for "Hoarders".

    * * * * *
    Thought I was the only one till I found this place!

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    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    Me too...maybe Juan Martinez said "listening to Jennifer Willmott's redirect is worse than an anal probe." (The cameraman caught an epic eyeroll from him during her redirect and he rocked back in his chair an "OMG please just kill me now!" look on his face.)

    I've been trying to figure out how to post it w/no luck...
    Maybe he got reamed by the defence team for taking a photo of them yesterday when they were out eating somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigiann View Post
    Jodi better journal or do whatever she can to remember each and every moment of her days in court because soon that is all they will be, distant memories. It will be the last time she wears street clothes, the last time she rides the prison bus, the last time she gets to interact with people on the outside on a daily basis. These will be part of her "good old days" that she will be talking about forever. I can only imagine how she will embellish these stories when she tells them to her new friends on death row. Might be difficult in solitary confinement....but I'm sure she will find a way to get her stories to the others...afterall I'm sure they have a right to know how bad she has had it!
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    Hey tia... I was nodding in agreement the whole time I was reading your comment!
    I have been thinking the exact same thing. Soon she'll be on death row alone in a cell (smaller than Travis' closet) 23 hours a day with only 3 showers a week and 1 hour a day outside alone. No more than one allowed outside at a time on death row. She's about to lose her BFF JW soon. The last person who left her was slaughtered and Alyce will no longer be paid $250 hr to visit Jodi, so we can pretty much say bye bye to nurse LaV and Dr Dick too. As they say on SNL buh bye!
    Exactly Gigiann, unless her (soon to be non existant) supporters are gonna flood her with mail, she is about to be relying solely on the guards for any kind of human contact. Im sure she will definitely answer all letters sent her way because that will be the majority of her connections to the outside world. It is gonna kill her to be out of the public eye!

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    I put this on the "fun thread"... but thought it might be okay here as well. I was struck by the similarity of the newly released photo of Jodi in the Superman t-shirt and her "happy" mugshot:

    kinda creepy... must be her go-to pose.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Freethinker View Post
    I might be mistaken, but I got the impression Alyce didn't have a clue about ANY secret messages in a magazine.
    Yeah but the jury remembered!

    I had to laugh about the whole exchange when Jodi was up on the stand, she was wanting to go into a a full blown lie of how it wasn't her and Juan didn't let her go there, just put the info up, no questions, let the jury decide. Notice too the defence didn't touch it with a barge pole either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dizzyp View Post
    is that an exact quote? because I missed that. I want to use it in my signature.
    paraphrase, can't stand to go back and check exact wording, I've had enough of this expert

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    dizzy says:

    know a ton about AL's life and could easily weave a "story" about what it means and call it a "double life". It would be just that though; a story cobbled together with bits of information that reaches a conclusion based on conjecture.

    * * * * *

    Exactly! You said it. Based on what we have read about her and have gathered on her personal life .. we could yarn together a story about her personal life....and she is SO SURE about her son, father and other males in her life and her upbringing was so perfect ... that NONE of them are like that at all! Uh huh yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morticia View Post
    I coincidently stumbled on this crazy trial on the first day with opening statements. I think I've only missed two days of testimony since then and, like any good addict, have not been able to stop!! My house practically looks like a candidate for "Hoarders". OK, not that bad, but it's getting there. I feel like I hit "bottom" this morning when I woke up and felt the darkness of it all. I stepped away from the livestream today and found out that it's springtime out there and that there are normal and pleasant people in the world! I'm feeling thankful that no matter how awful this case may be, life is pretty sweet.
    Great post! I got sucked into the trial from the beginning and now i just wait until it hits youtube cause i'm a lazy ass and sleep all day :) BUT i am excited because i'm up and ready to watch! I love reading all the commentary from everyone as the day goes on. LOVE how everyone gets excited about a quote hahaha, seriously my neighbors most likely can hear me laugh at all the posts.

    Alright, here's to a good and full day of court

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    tia said:

    That is exactly what she has done! My favorite jury question was the one that called her out on giving Jodi "little warm smiles" during sidebars. This jury is trying to send the message that they get it! I think Jodi is going to need her migraine medication today. If she thinks this is bad...just wait till Juan gets to closing arguments!

    * * * * *

    I can't wait for that!! It's going to be awesome!! I only have a few vac days left...so I have to be VERY careful and not waste one and end up having court canceled the day I try to schedule it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    Anyone notice Jodi's twitter account followers? I noticed this morning when the news broke she had about 900 followers. She now has over 10,000 followers. My guess is that Jodi didn't like how few followers she had so she had Donovan talk to the media for her to boost her follower base.
    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    @jodiannarias now has 14,800 followers. Latest tweet 1 hour ago, "I bet my website is beautiful. Too bad I can't see it."
    People are fighting with each other in the responses, "your art is beautiful, prayers to you" vs "die bitch", lots of name-calling back and forth.

    Amazing phenomenon, a lurid murder unfolding in the age of socia media and YouTube!
    When I first heard about the Twitter account, my first thought was of Anonymous. When they catch wind of this crap, they will shut it down. And her website? Ha! HACKED! Only a matter of time now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    omg - i am watching the trial now and just got to the question about her smiling at jodi - isn't she the one that said 90% of all communication is non verbal
    My favorite line of questioning for the whole day. Made watching that abortion of her on the stand totally worth it.

    Quote Originally Posted by faq_q View Post
    Yeah, and after follow ups there might be more questions. Uggggg!
    Maybe instead of a drinking game, we could all do something healthy while JW is up again. Whenever she smiles like a twit at Alyce, you do 10 jumping jacks. When JM objects, you do 15 squat boxer punches. When she is overruled, 10 pushups, and sustained, She's a Maniac dance...you know the one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morticia View Post
    Lots and lots of interesting info on Andriano's crime, trial, and sentencing. Quite a few similarities to JA's.

    http://murderpedia.org/female.A/a/andriano-wendi.htm
    Thanks for the link!

    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post
    Alyce was in full bashing mode of Travis yesterday. She made sure to bash him in every one of her responses to the jury. She actually went out of her way to bash him in some of those questions.
    Alyce had a lot of anger against Travis yesterday. It was weird. Maybe she got in trouble for something-and was taking her anger out on Travis??? IDK.
    I noticed this too. And so typical that instead of being upset with Jodi for lying to her, or the DT for withholding information, she uses every opportunity to take it out on the one person who really had no choice in her being up there.


    Quote Originally Posted by zeebee View Post
    Not defending her, but I think she meant that if a person lies once, that does not make them a "liar". It's the pattern of lying that makes them a liar (which I think Jodi shows, so she is wrong, but I think this is what she meant).
    I agree. Having sex in a laundry room with an ex one time while there is a St. Patrick's Day party going on downstairs while being single but not sure if he is, does not make one a whore. One lie does not a liar make. The patterns dictate the validity of the label.

    (The above oddly specific illustration may or may not have been based on actual facts.)


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    OK fellow MDSers....so we should all have this down by now. If we are believers in The Law of Attraction, if we DON'T write it in a blog or journal, it means we "could have" robbed a bank because we didn't write about it. Did I say that right?? LOL this woman has me in a fog.

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    I just went back and watched the 48 Hours program. Even though WE know about the lying, I do NOT see how ALV fell into the trap. Jodi indeed was convincing. Why did Alyce not question how someone could be that blatent, go on TV, tell that story so convincingly, yet still take the case?
    Money should not have been a "need" for her, she already had a lucrative business without putting in more time with the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elamir View Post
    Just remembered one of the most stunning comments from ALV from yesterday...

    "Just because Jodi lied, doesn't make her a liar"

    O'rly?
    Reminds of another oldie but goodie...

    "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is"

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    Happy Court Friday everyone! Lets get ALV off the stand today hopefully!!
    *ready for rebuttal*

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    This woman is so judgemental and "debasing" of Travis' early childhood and she can't see it as him overcoming those times and ended up in a career he liked and had a strong faith? She should give him kudos, instead of being so low to respond with what she learned about TA by talking about other kids making fun of him cause he didn't shower and him eating moldy bead. Yeah some victims advocate she is!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cara View Post

    Maybe instead of a drinking game, we could all do something healthy while JW is up again. Whenever she smiles like a twit at Alyce, you do 10 jumping jacks. When JM objects, you do 15 squat boxer punches. When she is overruled, 10 pushups, and sustained, She's a Maniac dance...you know the one.
    Oh lordy, if we do that i hope the mods are ready for some more articles

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post
    Alyce was in full bashing mode of Travis yesterday. She made sure to bash him in every one of her responses to the jury. She actually went out of her way to bash him in some of those questions.
    Alyce had a lot of anger against Travis yesterday.
    And to think she had the gall to approach Samantha in the courtroom.

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    While we wait for People's Court to begin....I have a question for you.

    Who was worse: Dr Dick or ALaV?

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