Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

[elamir]

Actually, self-defense was what Alyce started to say in answer to the question about whether abused women ever 'snap'...she said that when this happens it "is usually self-defense" and Martinez immediately objected.

Would have loved to hear a jury question to ALV like - "How many cases of domestic violence have you seen where the victim slashed the throat of the abuser?" My guess would be zero, apart from Jodi Arias.

[gigiann]

Mary posts; I only know of one dead boyfriend and that's Travis. Bobby attempted suicide the first time Jodi broke up with him. She testified he went to a mental hospital after that. She called him later,when the old man in the restaurant told her the end was near, and they had a 2nd go around at a relationship. She followed him to Oregon where he was Matt McCartneys room mate.
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Thank you Mary! I read a post where someone said he committed suicide. Figured the odds seemed pretty high.

[hatchan]

I only know of one dead boyfriend and that's Travis. Bobby attempted suicide the first time Jodi broke up with him. She testified he went to a mental hospital after that. She called him later, when the old man in the restaurant told her the end was near, and they had a 2nd go around at a relationship. She followed him to Oregon where he was Matt McCartneys room mate.

he is most assuredly DEAD. not sure by whose hand.

[Karlita]

Double life? Kind of a strong term. He kept his sex life private. Who among any of us tell family, friends, or coworkers what is happening at home in our bedrooms? Don't we all then live a double life? Remember when Tiger Woods' came under fire for his adultery? Women came out of the woodwork to tell their part in his 'double life'. Travis was an outgoing people person. His time was not spent in bars, hotels, with drug addicts, computer porn, hanging out at playgrounds, brothels etc. Now THAT is a double life. Where are the other people from his 'double life'? With the attention this case is getting there hasn't been one nut job coming forward with their story. How many have we seen and heard from about Jodi?

Excellent, very well said and I strongly believe the same. Thank you for saying this!

[hatchan]

why aren't you people in Europe and Asia online now??????

[Tia111]

Double life? Kind of a strong term. He kept his sex life private. Who among any of us tell family, friends, or coworkers what is happening at home in our bedrooms? Don't we all then live a double life? Remember when Tiger Woods' came under fire for his adultery? Women came out of the woodwork to tell their part in his 'double life'. Travis was an outgoing people person. His time was not spent in bars, hotels, with drug addicts, computer porn, hanging out at playgrounds, brothels etc. Now THAT is a double life. Where are the other people from his 'double life'? With the attention this case is getting there hasn't been one nut job coming forward with their story. How many have we seen and heard from about Jodi?

EXACTLY! I think it should be brought up that if this is how AL defines a double life then she too is guilty of living one too.
We do not know anything about her love life so I think she should add all the dirty sordid tales of her past and present escapades to her introduction at her seminars. Because although, like Travis she paints the picture she wants the public to see, I'm sure there are details that she would not want to share with EVERYONE! I suppose she won't have to worry about discussing it at her seminars since there probably won't be any speakiing engagements coming her way. She will have lots of spare time to correspond with Jodi. I have a feeling there will be many opportunities to send her books and magazine subscriptions.

[elamir]

Just remembered one of the most stunning comments from ALV from yesterday...

"Just because Jodi lied, doesn't make her a liar"

O'rly?

[Sayub]

Anxiety Attacks, Social Media Assaults, & Heart Palpitations, Oh My

The barrage of cyberstalking was the subject of lengthy meetings in a judge?s chambers on Monday. It sent LaViolette to the emergency room last weekend. Legal observers are not certain if it constitutes witness tampering, slander, or just an expression of free speech. ?It?s the electronic version of a lynch mob,? said retired Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Kenneth Fields.

Be sure to read the comments.

(sorry if this has already been posted, I?m a few pages behind)

http://tamaratattles.com/2013/04/11/...#comment-34220

ETA: Arias trial: Witness feels social media?s glare

http://www.azcentral.com/community/m...ias-glare.html

sorry if this double posts - not my intention

[bermstalker]

Mad love for the jury. After hearing all their questions, I am more convinced than ever Jodi is going to fry.

If Wilmott was smart, she would throw in the towel and stomp out of court. How in the world does she possibly think she can rehab AVL?

Why would Wilmott leave? Nurmi wasn't allowed to leave when he wanted to. They are stuck with Jodi until this is finished.
I still think there is at least one juror that is leaning/believing the DV story.

I'd love to hear the following questions from the jury:
1) Since you are not an MD, how do you know that Jodi's finger was broken?
2) Do you consider TA's relationship with Deanna short-term? If not, was she ever abused?
3) Have you ever testified in favor of a male in a court of law?

She answered 2 and 3-in her long way of explaining things. Alyce said that Travis and Deanna were on/off for 6 years. Alyce also said she testified for at least 2 men before, but she couldn't remember the exact number.

Yeah, Maria is building the mitigation case according to CNN.

"In fact, we just got the visitor list, and here it is. These are the people who have visited her most often. Her mother, 40 visits. Her dad, only two, though. 60 visits by attorneys, 51 by friends. This is a little unusual. Four visits by people called supporters. I don't usually see supporters on a jail visitation list. And then take a look at that one at the top, mitigation, 45 visits. What is that? That's a woman named Maria de la Rosa. She happens to be the woman building the mitigation case. That is the case to save Jodi Arias' life if, in fact, this jury finds her guilty and they go to another phase. The question then becomes for the jury, is Jodi a life worth saving, and yes, that's a case you have to make."

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...05/cnr.06.html

Thanks for the information.
Maria sits at the table behind Jodi everyday. Maria is one of the most important attorneys for Jodi. We haven't heard anything from her yet, but she is very involved in this case. Right now, her involvement happens behind the scene. If Jodi is found guilty, we will hear her. She will do everything she can to fight for Jodi's life. If Jodi is found guilty, that is when all her friends, family, and anybody else that knows her will take the stand and tell how wonderful Jodi is, and how she deserves to live.

I hope Juan picked up on LaViolette saying that Jodi having staying friends with an ex-boyfriend showed that she didn't lie or manipulate in relationships, yet when she (LaViolette) said that Travis remained friends with one of his long-term girlfriends, she didn't say anything about that being a good sign of his character in relationships. She continually cherry picks her interpretations.

Alyce was in full bashing mode of Travis yesterday. She made sure to bash him in every one of her responses to the jury. She actually went out of her way to bash him in some of those questions.
Alyce had a lot of anger against Travis yesterday. It was weird. Maybe she got in trouble for something-and was taking her anger out on Travis??? IDK.

I thought that convicted felons could not visit anyone in prison...is this also true of county jails? Anyone?

Jodi is not a felony or anything, yet. She is still considered "innocent"- Each state has different rules about contact with felons. She (Don) could have got pre-approval from her parole officer. Sometimes they will Ok something.

what is the tool? Why does it stop at 68 and my next one starts at 73? I must have missed something.

Can't explain it. My wordpad was acting up yesterday.

Gotta disagree with you on this, wt...especially today, with the discussion of his exes and abuse and Deanna being specifically brought up, the jurors have got to be wondering why they haven't heard from her. I hope Martinez does call her in rebuttal, if not it will look really bad.

If I was a juror, I'd want to hear from Deanne, but most of all......Matt!!

was this her boyfriend or her flamboyant BFF?

im not meaning to sound offensive, but dude looks like hes on the "sweet" side

That's Vampire Bobby! Jodi thought he looked like Brandon Lee. Vampire and Jodi lived together in his grandparent's house. The grandparents were hoarders. They smoked a lot and Jodi hates smokers.

[Sylvian]

Forgot to mention this....
One of my favorite questions was about Jodi writing her secret messages in magazines. Hahahaha. They wanted to know if Jodi was communicating with Alyce.

I don't think they really thought that at all. I think that juror just wanted to inform Alyce about what Jodi did with the magazines she sent her.

Alyce seemed a little taken back with that. Hmmm, is that considered manipulative behavior on Jodi's part?

Absolutely fantastic question! I was grinning at that one. I think you're right, they were trying to inform alyce about the secret messages. Very clever.
I think we all need to give the jury the credit they are due, they see what we see.

[Freethinker]

My eyes are blurry trying to get caught up on last night's postings. Actually had to skip some of the long ones, sorry.

I don't know if a testifying person like Alyce is supposed to not watch anything trial related, but after all, her basic testimony is done. Of course, if TV is allowed, and if she had any interest, last night's Dr Drew was spot on undoing Alyce's testimony. It definitely would have given her a view of Jodi she had never seen. Despite her testimony about Travis, she would have fallen off her chair when it came to Jodi. There's no doubt she would have questioned herself about her decisions based on Jodi's lies and her journals. They even spoke about the sex tapes. They were not phone sex in the real sense (I detected that too), they were just words spoken back and forth. Of course they had to get some comedy in with the whole crew doing headstands.
I guess what I'm saying is..The program last night was the best I've seen that wrapped up Jodi in a nutshell and would have made Alyce shiver at the things she defended reguarding Jodi.

[Ian 1]

information[*]Did you read Travis' family or friends? Only 48 hours[*]What did you learn about Travis? He was a motivational speaker and good at it. He knew his scriptures, and came from an abusive household. He was made fun of. He liked women. Don't know much about his friendships. His anger.[*]Do you think Jodi lied to you to help her case? (Long story) No[*]Could Jodi have exaggerate to help her case? She could have.

"June 15, 2008

My Dear Travis,

I don't know how I can go on without you. I am so grateful you came to my home when you were 8 years old to live with me. We had many happy times together, you were an easy boy to raise, and a great young man. It was a pleasure to be your grandmother. I will always love you......Mummum.

Norma Sarvey,Riverside,
California."

Geez! Nary a hint of growing pot on the roof, kicking her in the shins, lying, etc. How did Alyce manage to overlook this part? It's all right here.

http://www.travisalexanderjustice.com/memorial

[Tia111]

Jodi better journal or do whatever she can to remember each and every moment of her days in court because soon that is all they will be, distant memories. It will be the last time she wears street clothes, the last time she rides the prison bus, the last time she gets to interact with people on the outside on a daily basis. These will be part of her "good old days" that she will be talking about forever. I can only imagine how she will embellish these stories when she tells them to her new friends on death row. Might be difficult in solitary confinement....but I'm sure she will find a way to get her stories to the others...afterall I'm sure they have a right to know how bad she has had it!

[Freethinker]

Absolutely fantastic question! I was grinning at that one. I think you're right, they were trying to inform alyce about the secret messages. Very clever.
I think we all need to give the jury the credit they are due, they see what we see.

I might be mistaken, but I got the impression Alyce didn't have a clue about ANY secret messages in a magazine.

[Sylvian]

"June 15, 2008

My Dear Travis,

I don't know how I can go on without you. I am so grateful you came to my home when you were 8 years old to live with me. We had many happy times together, you were an easy boy to raise, and a great young man. It was a pleasure to be your grandmother. I will always love you......Mummum.

Norma Sarvey,Riverside,
California."

Geez! Nary a hint of growing pot on the roof, kicking her in the shins, lying, etc. How did Alyce manage to overlook this part? It's all right here.

http://www.travisalexanderjustice.com/memorial

Heartbreaking that his nan will not get to see Travis get justice. I feel for his family every time i see them in court. They are dignified and stronger than I could ever be. Received some blue ribbon yesterday and I'll be tying a bow to my flowering cherry tree which is covered in blossom at the moment. It's not something we do here in the UK but I'd like to till the end of the trial.

[marshmallow]

pigtails and super heroes....

[eliqueang]

pigtails and super heroes....

and south park..oh my!

Does anyone know what is coming up? I'm guessing it's back to JW yapping about the questions and then juan right?

[Freethinker]

and south park..oh my!

Does anyone know what is coming up? I'm guessing it's back to JW yapping about the questions and then juan right?

I think JW has another witness, unless he's cancelled

[zeebee]

Just remembered one of the most stunning comments from ALV from yesterday...

"Just because Jodi lied, doesn't make her a liar"

O'rly?

Not defending her, but I think she meant that if a person lies once, that does not make them a "liar". It's the pattern of lying that makes them a liar (which I think Jodi shows, so she is wrong, but I think this is what she meant).

[Lady MacBeth]

Ok. do I have to be the first one to say it? HE LOOKS GAY~! Nothing against homosexuals, I have a gay friend who agrees he looks like he should be on Project Runway.

[NCBlonde]

She was on the stand for 18 freaken days, she more than got her chance for her "voice" to be heard!!! (sorry for not using multi-quote)

Yep! It's ridiculous for her to think that a defendant in a criminal trial should be allowed to continuously address the public.

Thank you for the welcome. Verdict day makes me nervous. I base this on the insanity of the OJ and Casey debacles.

Well, the one thing about this case that is different, is that Jodi admitted killing Travis. As far as I know, OJ is "still looking for the real killers" smh, and of course Casey says it was all just an accident.

Also, there are no pictures of OJ or Casey carting around a bloody body. So, hopefully that makes a difference to the jury.

Welcome newbies!

This!

Donavan deleted the Nancy Grace and Juan, little man syndrome tweet.

I have to laugh about this crap. Here we have the defense team crying about how people on social media are criticizing their "expert" witnesses, and yet it's perfectly fine for the DEFENDANT to be talking via twitter and taking shots at the prosecutor and the media. Hypocritical much, Nurmi?

I can only hope that either the judge shuts that bs down, or Martinez is allowed to somehow mention it in courtroom. A murderer has no right to a public speaking forum to begin with, but if the defense can claim that random internet people can have an effect (even mistrial) on this case, then how can it be argued that the defendant doing so as well, couldn't?

[Lady MacBeth]

Anxiety Attacks, Social Media Assaults, & Heart Palpitations, Oh My

The barrage of cyberstalking was the subject of lengthy meetings in a judge?s chambers on Monday. It sent LaViolette to the emergency room last weekend. Legal observers are not certain if it constitutes witness tampering, slander, or just an expression of free speech. ?It?s the electronic version of a lynch mob,? said retired Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Kenneth Fields.

Be sure to read the comments.

(sorry if this has already been posted, I?m a few pages behind)

http://tamaratattles.com/2013/04/11/...#comment-34220

thanks!

[NCBlonde]

Shoot, I forgot to mention that WAT left this message on his twitter:


WildAboutTrial ‏@WildAboutTrial 1h

Still shocked at what happened to me last night.. what a shame I can't share with you all. Morning! Ready for more #JodiArias today?




I am soooooooo curious as to what that is about!

[ShellJett]

I think ALV revealed her agenda most when she changed her testimony on the details of
1. shooting in the closet
2. cutting fingers on apple
3. slap in the face was actually her jaw
4. Pedo pics not on computer'
It clearly demonstrates that she changed her testimony to comport with Stabby's stories. That was so blatantly obvious to me at least, and if juror questions are in order written I hope one calls her out on it. All of these "revelations" came out in re-direct by Jenny and ALV recanted on these "facts" overnight.

[dizzyp]

EXACTLY! I think it should be brought up that if this is how AL defines a double life then she too is guilty of living one too.
We do not know anything about her love life so I think she should add all the dirty sordid tales of her past and present escapades to her introduction at her seminars. Because although, like Travis she paints the picture she wants the public to see, I'm sure there are details that she would not want to share with EVERYONE! I suppose she won't have to worry about discussing it at her seminars since there probably won't be any speakiing engagements coming her way. She will have lots of spare time to correspond with Jodi. I have a feeling there will be many opportunities to send her books and magazine subscriptions.

I know a ton about AL's life and could easily weave a "story" about what it means and call it a "double life". It would be just that though; a story cobbled together with bits of information that reaches a conclusion based on conjecture... which is what she did in this case. Like I've said before, IMO, her approach is to start with a conclusion and interpret facts to support that conclusion.