Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

[Sweet Pea]

Was it Poison?

[Saffron]

But, shouldn't it have been in line with ALV's "expert opinion" to have checked and double checked her facts? I don't think it has anything to do with ALV not having all of the info...and everything to do with the fact that it's how she INTERPRETS the info. I believe what ALV was hired to do was take the defendant (Jodi, the square peg) and fit her into the "round hole" profile of a battered and abused woman. And Jodi just ain't fittin' into that round hole, no matter how hard the defense tries to shove her lying ass into it.

This is SO well said. It's a perfect description of the defense strategy. I hope, hope, hope the jury sees it this way.

[tbirdsell11]

I believe that the only way you are a domestic violence expert is by experience. Actually being in that situation. That's the only way you know how someone feels because you have been there too.
I am a survivor of DV. Lasted 9 years until his death from his motorcycle accident.
You can't just go to school and study and be an expert, you have to have experienced it.

[coconut]

But, shouldn't it have been in line with ALV's "expert opinion" to have checked and double checked her facts? I don't think it has anything to do with ALV not having all of the info...and everything to do with the fact that it's how she INTERPRETS the info. I believe what ALV was hired to do was take the defendant (Jodi, the square peg) and fit her into the "round hole" profile of a battered and abused woman. And Jodi just ain't fittin' into that round hole, no matter how hard the defense tries to shove her lying ass into it.

In theory, yes. BUT in the real world there is the limitation of budget and time and deadlines. There is more information in this case than any one person can digest. Imagine verifying and crosschecking the many thousands of messages, diary entries, phone calls, from all the many people involved. Alyce did not know when this case would go to trail - it has been delayed for years. Alyce used a portion of the case info to make a judgement on domestic abuse, I think in good faith taking most of what Jodi said as fact.

The prosecution can dedicate more resource to disproving these details because that is how they prove their case. It is their goal. The defense at some point has to commit to a story and build on it, for better or worse. Unfortunately for the lawyers and experts, their client is an exceptional, creative, and relentless liar. Someone who lies for sport, someone who doesn't even know why she lies. The defense does not even know its own case, because the shifting stories.

[Reaper-Creeper]

Long time creeper, finally was able to get on board. Being an Arizonan, and having family live just a few streets away this trial is more than just something to follow. Its totally crazy!

[Sayub]

Just found this clip singing about Jodi's beauty

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkzIUUXTt_M

[bryanwasdrunk]

Found this. She does look a bit like Simon...

OMG, off topic and belongs in the joke thread but
+1

[Morticia]

What a cozy trio.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BHdAkpaCMAAtpkF.jpg:large

[Angiebla]

I believe that the only way you are a domestic violence expert is by experience. Actually being in that situation. That's the only way you know how someone feels because you have been there too.
I am a survivor of DV. Lasted 9 years until his death from his motorcycle accident.
You can't just go to school and study and be an expert, you have to have experienced it.

Welcome The thing that worries me is that with all of her years of experience she's unable to see that someone is feigning abuse.

[bryanwasdrunk]

Pei Wei Asian Diner‎
701 W McDowell Rd #101
Phoenix, AZ 85003

A few blocks from Maricopa County courthouse.
Neat!

[Saffron]

I think Juan is continuing to do a great job. And I don't him envy having to sift through the endless details and unfounded assumptions of LaViolette's testimony. I would guess that, even though there's so much good evidence in this case, he can't really leave unaddressed much that LaViolette said in direct because he has to always have in mind that possible stubborn, not-too-intelligent juror who could hang this thing.

[Sugar Cane]

And on more than one occasion I've noticed its healthy not to give a damn about a current trial, and this is one of them ... :)

[Saffron]

s/b "envy him", not "him envy". Damn, I need an edit button.

[JusticeGoneAwry]

I do notice defense co-counsel's body language. He is distancing himself from the examination of these two "expert" witnesses. He is sending the message that he had nothing to do with this fuckery. Notice the space he has put between him and the way his body is turned away from WillNot.

I had the same thoughts today! Nurmi looks totally disconnected and uninterested in what is going on~
the only action from him is when they approach the bench.
Other than that there seems to be no interaction between him and JA or him and JW.
He appears to be resigned to the fact that they are sinking.

[Iluvsam]

I had the same thoughts today! Nurmi looks totally disconnected and uninterested in what is going on~
the only action from him is when they approach the bench.
Other than that there seems to be no interaction between him and JA or him and JW.
He appears to be resigned to the fact that they are sinking.

He spends too much time watching the jurors, that makes me nervous. He is trying to find another reason to dismiss more jurors.

[Angiebla]

And on more than one occasion I've noticed its healthy not to give a damn about a current trial, and this is one of them ... :)

I know it's not healthy but I can't help it! I'm hooked!

[Poppycock]

Pei Wei Asian Diner‎
701 W McDowell Rd #101
Phoenix, AZ 85003

A few blocks from Maricopa County courthouse.
Neat!

And it doesn't appear anyone in there recognizes them, or at least acts like they do! I would so lose my appetite if I saw that trio in a restaurant. I am really kind of surprised since Willmot needs security escorts out of the court house. It could be the one at 7th St. and Glendale.

It never ceases to amaze me what you peeps on mds find!

ETA: I guess the person that took the photo recognized them, duh.

[faq_q]

Well, this is creepy.

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net.../756219634.gif

That's crazy how she morphs into Palin. I'm going to have nightmares!

I feel bad for AVL the prosecution has ruined her by not filing her in with what jodi has said and giving her limited context to work with. I wonder if she's looking at the prosecutors because she wants cues or she's just angry they kept things from her. Lord knows jodi was not a happy camper

Hehe...gotta say with how much ALV used the word context today....didn't want to see that word again but it fits in this "context"

Juan-isms

"Ma'am, isn't it true that..."
"I'm not ASKING about that! I'm ASKING about..."
"I understand that you think the prosecutor's angry..."
"Are you having a PROBLEM answering my question?"
"Again, are you having a problem with your memory?"
"SUUUURE"
"Judge, she's being unresponsive.."

Juan could make a living out of making good quotes for us

Found this. She does look a bit like Simon...

I've said it before, my disdain for her dental health, it looks like a couple mint tic tacs fighting in there.

[M Joy]

I think Juan is continuing to do a great job. And I don't him envy having to sift through the endless details and unfounded assumptions of LaViolette's testimony. I would guess that, even though there's so much good evidence in this case, he can't really leave unaddressed much that LaViolette said in direct because he has to always have in mind that possible stubborn, not-too-intelligent juror who could hang this thing.

Good point! It can be easy to start to wonder if JM is going into too many areas. But he is really just trying to cover all his bases. And he's been doing a wonderful job at making defense witnesses his own!

I had the same thoughts today! Nurmi looks totally disconnected and uninterested in what is going on~
the only action from him is when they approach the bench.
Other than that there seems to be no interaction between him and JA or him and JW.
He appears to be resigned to the fact that they are sinking.

He spends too much time watching the jurors, that makes me nervous. He is trying to find another reason to dismiss more jurors.

I've noticed too that all Nurmi is doing lately is either jury watch or just look completely checked out of the whole thing. He's letting Willmott run this "circus" into the ground on her own as much as he can.

[Morticia]

I'm not sure if Lava's assessment was a total lie or not (seems that way), but she's gotten totally played by both the prosecution and the defense. They've both used her to promote their respective side and the prosecution has gotten more out of her than the 18 days of JA's testimony. The irony of all this is mind-boggling. JA could not successfully juggle all her lies and it's like a sunrise to see have it shown so clearly

[tbirdsell11]

Thank you!
Your have to go through it to understand and recognize abuse.
It drove me nuts when ALV would look so confused maybe we should start questioning her credentials!

[olgasbunghole]

I have abused my privilege to speak about this trial to my husband but this morning I couldn't help myself while seeing ALV flash across the screen with her........ "robbed from Bugs Bunny teeth" protruding more than usual! but your "Simon" side by side takes the cake! ha ha ha ha ha.............

[Angiebla]

Thank you!
Your have to go through it to understand and recognize abuse.
It drove me nuts when ALV would look so confused maybe we should start questioning her credentials!

It's scary that she thinks a pathological liar is credible!

I have abused my privilege to speak about this trial to my husband but this morning I couldn't help myself while seeing ALV flash across the screen with her........ "robbed from Bugs Bunny teeth" protruding more than usual! but your "Simon" side by side takes the cake! ha ha ha ha ha.............

Welcome my bf won't let me discuss the trial with him :(

[olgasbunghole]

Thank you!
Your have to go through it to understand and recognize abuse.
It drove me nuts when ALV would look so confused maybe we should start questioning her credentials!

I'm with you! she's quite shameful and very, very insulting to the true victims and also TA"s family :( by the way, I'm sorry you were a victim too but it now makes you a "real" expert on abuse as opposed to the gaping hole on the witness stand flapping her gums with lies, excuse me..... untruths!

[zeebee]

It's funny, my sister watched the trial today and commented that she thinks that Jodi has found her new stalking victim: JW. She doesn't read this website, so it's not just us noticing Jodi's behavior towards JW.