Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

[jingles]

I think he should. I think he should show all of them, one at a time, and ask her how many of these pictures she thinks Travis deserved for this 'ABUSE' Jodi supposedly suffered. Isn't that what this what her theory is? Travis deserved to be shot in the head, stabbed 27+ times, and his throat slit from ear to ear, because Jodi was abused? Does Alyce think he deserved that? She's basically saying it's all Travis's fault. That poor Jodi is the true victim. What BULLSHIT!

Exactly. Even if you buy into this garbage that she was a domestic abuse victim, that in this case she was defending herself, what she did went way, way, WAY beyond self defense. By AZ law, one is only allowed to inflict enough harm to stop the perpetrator. This was overkill, the butchering of another human being. As has been said, she inflicted not 1, not 2, but 3 fatal wounds.

[smurfy]

Secondary gain

maybe this one fits better?
Tertiary gain, a less well-studied process, is when a third party such as a relative or friend is motivated to gain sympathy or other benefits from the illness of the victim

[Metis212]

WTF, Alyce doesn't know about anal sex? She treats abused women and doesn't know about anal sex? Goodness. If I was Martinez, I would ask her how many of her offender group went on to offend again. There are no sexual questions I am embarrassed by!

[Kdon]

Somebody (Darrell?) said they cost $300.00. Is that back alley prices?

$300????? Um ya... Did she get them in Mexico?

[coconut]

Even more important than if she was abused, or if Alyce is a fraud, if Martinez can get it in the jury's head that she planned her trip to Mesa, and not Utah, that is the biggest point he can score. It sounds like Lava wrote down that she was going to Mesa. That is devastating.

[AnnieBelle]

So, I decided to turn the trial off.....it's a BEAUTIFUL day outside....and I spent a few hours strolling through the local park zoo. I was enjoying the animals....as always. Then I noticed two chickens making a mad dash toward a literal pile of bullshit. They started doing their chicken scratch jig and the bullshit went flying, everywhere. I immediately thought of Willmott and Nurmi.

[M Joy]

So, I decided to turn the trial off.....it's a BEAUTIFUL day outside....and I spent a few hours strolling through the local park zoo. I was enjoying the animals....as always. Then I noticed two chicken making a mad dash toward a literal pile of bullshit. They started doing their chicken scratch jig and the bullshit went flying, everywhere. I immediately thought of Willmott and Nurmi.

you decided to turn it off during Martinez' cross examination?

[royals02]

No she said she used two gas cans because she always did for long trips in the desert. But that she bought and returned a 3rd gas can (lie).

I thought Darryl said she wanted them to go to "Mesa"

[rdeadline]

I rewatched yesterday and I heard LIAR LIAR
Today it's MANIPULATION MANIPULATOR

JM is drumming into heads!

[wasthinking]

maybe this one fits better?
Tertiary gain, a less well-studied process, is when a third party such as a relative or friend is motivated to gain sympathy or other benefits from the illness of the victim

I used a play on words, not wiki. More direct - self serving monetary gain

[smurfy]

I used a play on words, not wiki. More direct - self serving monetary gain

ok.. but as far as I can see.. not just on wiki, secondary gain has to have the avoidance of solving a problem so they can benefit.. play on words or not, secondary gain makes absolutely no sense when talking about the selling of the necklaces. Unless I am missing something.

[AnnieBelle]

you decided to turn it off during Martinez' cross examination?

Yup! I know that, thanks to the amazing tawnidilly and others, I can catch up on what I missed during the afternoon.....but I couldn't catch up on the opportunity to get out and catch some rays!! :)

[gecko am]

Before you can learn to be a Physicist, you have to acknowledge that there's somebody out there who knows more than you do and from whom you can learn something. Then, of course, you have to study and do the work.

Jodi was as smart as Einstein. Nobody could teach her anything. Why bother doing the work if you already know everything?

Yip! I guess I just I can't believe she is so full of herself to think she is smarter than everyone. And omg a manifesto! can't WAIT for that! she's all kinds of crazy

[Wishmich]

But...those photos are so...UPSETTING to Jodi! She can't bear to even LOOK at them!

Yeah, that's why due to her "morbid curiosity" she begged to see them over and over.

[smurfy]

oh my gosh.. I am slow. Sorry was thinking. I get it now, Im pickin up what your throwin down. Sorry!

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

Even more important than if she was abused, or if Alyce is a fraud, if Martinez can get it in the jury's head that she planned her trip to Mesa, and not Utah, that is the biggest point he can score. It sounds like Lava wrote down that she was going to Mesa. That is devastating.

I thought Darryl said she wanted them to go to "Mesa"

Darryl said in his original interview with Flores, although he claimed not to recall saying so, that she said she wanted them for a trip to AZ. Alyce's notes seem to confirm that.

She was having a hard time keeping her lies straight and I'd be curious to know if she knew whether or not Alyce would be speaking Darryl or anyone else.

[Kdon]

yea i am pretty sure she lied to daryll about that - there is no such thing, prolly didn't wabt to tell him she was spenging 3k while they were losing their house

Ya they couldn't even do a "goo pri for u my friend.... Only today. I give you good deal" in Mexico.

[MartyT]

WTF, Alyce doesn't know about anal sex? She treats abused women and doesn't know about anal sex? Goodness. If I was Martinez, I would ask her how many of her offender group went on to offend again. There are no sexual questions I am embarrassed by!

Similar thoughts ran through my head. Domestic Violence Expert? Whom the hell has she been counselling? Victims battered by feathers? Victims of missionary position only sexual assault? She claimed that TAs text rant to Arias was the worst example she had ever come across? Seriously? What a protected violence 'expert' she is. She insults victims everywhere when she pedals this nonsense.

[gecko am]

Anyone know why the trial's not back on yet? wasn't it 1:15?

[jingles]

So ALV is "in chambers" viewing the entire video taped interview of the father by Det. Flores? This should be interesting!

[M Joy]

I hope after this next delay (obviously giving ALV a chance to review Daddy Arias' police interview tape), that Judge lets it in and plays it for the jury.

Not getting my hopes up about it though since a lot of it would be considered prejudicial. Sigh.

[smurfy]

Anyone know why the trial's not back on yet? wasn't it 1:15?

I think someone mentioned a hearing at 1:00

[jingles]

Anyone know why the trial's not back on yet? wasn't it 1:15?

Vinnie says Alyce is in chambers viewing the entire interview of the father by Det. Flores!

[Freethinker]

So ALV is "in chambers" viewing the entire video taped interview of the father by Det. Flores? This should be interesting!

Really? or is this a comment?

[Harlette]

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Still waiting outside. No one is let in yet. #jodiarias