Just sayin'!
Just sayin'!
Originally Posted by coconut
WOW Coconut.... We don't usually hear that type of opinion from you!
JW is pissed LOL At the sidebar she was practically spitting out her words.
I've been traveling so had to listen to this on XM radio. Have to catch up on what y'all have been saying but I have to get this out now. I WANT TO HIT HER. Every damn question is a battle. She won't give up ANYTHING. Please let me hit her. I'm going to blow a gasket if I keep on listening to her.
HAHAHAHAHA
her I don't remember gets tape played
"Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are" --- Benjamin Franklin
Guess they should have hired Ron Jeremy as their expert instead.
It will always say "Swiss Guard" to me...
Were you crying when you were stabbing him? --SuperJuan Martinez
Nobody believes a word out of your mouth. Why do you keep talking? -- ABC Interviewer to JA
Will we get hear this tape before Judge breaks for lunch?
Thank you!
I wasn't sure if they were hearing all this mess! LOVE the subject of manipulation going on here... Not a good day for the DT!
i think he said it just to show she is manipulative
he brought up an instance where a childhood friend said jodi was manipulative, but alice said her friends assessment didnt apply today cause jodi is an adult now. so juan brought that point up to show shes still like that
Juan Martinex didn't even have a whole day yesterday. He has only had hours in total to get here. So many delays and hearings and interruptions. I'm trying to figure out how many hours in total - 6? ALVs total before JM got to her was massively more. I am amused by those claiming he takes too long.
From the JAII site
LC says:
April 9, 2013 at 2:58 pm
Martinez just DOESN’T blv jodi and he thinks that her whole life has been a big fat lie and he wants EVERYONE to blv it too. Jodi has NEVER EVER told a truth in her life, that’s what Martinez thinks and wants everyone to blv.
Nobody blv's Jodi, why would anyone blv her?
She looks like she needs a little KY.. She is getting reamed!
"The difference between theory and reality is this: In theory, there is no difference between the two. In reality, there is."
If you lay down with dogs, you should't be surprised when you wind up with fleAs.
Illegitimi non carborundum!
I LMAO when JM asks Alyce...do you remember us talking about anal sex?
ANAL SEX IS BACK!!!
Ugh!
"Most people do not listen with the intent to understand; They listen with the intent to reply." ~ anonymous
"Keep calm and sing Soft Kitty"
"it is what it is!"
Jodi doesn't like anal sex... RIGHT.
Anal sex.... and now lunch
Maybe it's how it's coming across on the computer? @wildabouttrial, in his daily fashion revue this morning, said JM was dressed in a dark blue suit and light gold tie. Looks gold to me, and I think he looks extra sharp today!
I'm sure she manipulated someone for the implants. They look like a back alley job though so they probably weren't that expensive
ALV thinks only vanilla is "normal sex"?!?!?!
Wow, great therapist.
Were you crying when you were stabbing him? --SuperJuan Martinez
Nobody believes a word out of your mouth. Why do you keep talking? -- ABC Interviewer to JA
Yes, agreed. She needs to shut her pie hole more often.
"...Jeffrey Dahmer... actually confessed and accepted his punishment. Had real remorse for the sick things he did. It's pretty bad when Jeffrey Dahmer is a better person than you are." ~Justice11 (re: Jodi Arias)
4/9/13 Anal sex is back!!
Morning
Jodi has on a dark purple shirt. Her hair is in that stupid side pony tail thing.
The judge asks for the attorneys to approach
Court is on hold. The judge announces they have to have an in chambers conference with Jodi present. (Twitter:Mike B grabs his stenography machine and heads back into chambers. Nurmi walks over and talks to the bailiff. Stay tuned. #JodiArias)
Alyce is still on the stand. JM is still up for the state. Alyce said she didn't base all her opinion on talking with Jodi. It's a 50/50 split. Maybe. Alyce thought Jodi was being truthful.
Alyce told JM in previous testimony, she found Jodi to be truthful.
Secondary gain- a person can lie if it's to their benefit. Alyce can not say yes or no if Jodi had anything to gain for lying. Alyce thought there was not secondary gain in this case. Alyce says she never said there was no secondary gain. (she's word playing again) Alyce considered secondary gain, but Alyce thought it was DV.
Palin asks for an approach
Did you rule out secondary gain? I didn't rule it out.
Since you didn't rule it out, if your accessment was lacking, couldn't Jodi be lying? I looked at it, but was limited to only looking at DV.
JM is now saying that Alyce didn't complete a full accessment of ruling out secondary gain. Alyce says there is always reasonable doubt.
Alyce applied reasonable doubt to this case.
Did you believe her or not? I believed her. Alyce only talked to Jodi in this evelation.
JM is interesting in the mouth moving-not what she read.
Alyce doesn't understand what talking to somebody means. (UGH, I want to slap her now)
(It's getting hot between JM and Alyce. The tension is thick)
Wasn't one of the people involved in this story missing b/c he was killed? Yes
Jodi's lies growing up-You investigated Jodi's truthfulness growing up? No.
Wouldn't you agree the father knew if Jodi was truthful growing up? Yes
Wouldn't he know better? He has a questionable history with her
Did you talk to the talk to the cop that interviewed the dad about Jodi's truthfulness growing up from the age of 14 and on?
Palin asks for an approach
Jury has to leave for 10 minutes
JM wants to play a 9 second video. Palin objects
Alyce's opinion is based on what Jodi told her. ALyce thinks she was untruthful after the murder.
You are aware of the interview with the Flores and Jodi's father? I wasn't aware.
Palin asks for an approach ( I am really starting to hate Palin)
EX-604- Video of Jodi's father talking with Flores- Alyce did not know about this.
Is this not something you would have considered? Alyce said she wouldn't take a soundbite. Alyce is saying Jodi was a teenager.
Palin wants Alyce to see the whole interview.
Approach Judge
Jury is coming back
Jodi's truth- cuts on her hands b/c she cut them on apples.
You believed that right? I don't, I don't, I don't, uh, recall if I focused on that.
(Alyce needs her fucking glasses)
EX 605- Alyce's report- it says that jodi cut her hand cutting apples.
Alyce did not vertify. Alyce says she read the police report.
Did you review her statements to the police? A long time ago.
Isn't there a different version on how Jodi cut her finger? I don't remember.
Alyce keeps saying she can not answer yes or no
Gas cans- That caused you problems didn't it in terms of Jodi's truthfulness (JM just told her to quit looking over there)
EX 607- Alyce's notes- Alyce talks about the gas cans. Jodi told OG she needed 2 gas can b/c she was taking a long trip to Mesa and didn't want to run out of gas. (BOOM)
Alyce says none of this has anything to do with DV. (Alyce is really bitchy and JM is pretty harsh also)
Isn't it true you had a problem with the gas can b/c Jodi was not truthful? No, that's not all I said. I just jotted down the note.
EX 608- Alyce's notes.
Palin asks for an approach.
EX 608- Alyce had problems or questions about this case. One question was the gas cans. Alyce thought it was a last minute decision to go to Mesa and the gas cans didn't make sense.
(Alyce is just flat out writing) and JM just says he is IMPEACHING THIS WITNESS.
Approach judge
Your page has no mention of Utah, does it? It mentions Utah after Jodi goes to Mesa.
That created a problem for you didn't it? It created a question
You decided to resolve this issue in favor of Jodi? I asked Jodi and the diary said so. (faceslap)
Couldn't you have called or had an interview with OG? Alyce was told she had to use the information she had.
No one was directing your investgation were they? No
Alyce wanted to interview other people but she was... (Palin wants an approach)
Approach
Alyce did not interview OG. Alyce doesn't think her assessment is lacking. (Alyce can not answer yes or no)
Jodi is very manipulative person isn't she? I don't think I've said that.
Jodi was not abused and Jodi liked to play the victim is what Alyce's notes said.
EX 609- Alyce's notes say that Jodi liked to play the victim in Highschool. Jodi's friend, Zanna, said that.
Isn't that a character trait? It doesn't have to be. Alyce says it was just a young girl. (Alyce is now word playing again and she will not answer yes or no)
Did you ask Jodi about her playing the victim? Uh, I asked her but I looked at other reports. Now Alyce says her notes don't reflect everytime she talks to Jodi.
Isn't that what were are hear to discuss-abuse? Yes and the relationship with Travis (WTF. I thought we were here b/c somebody was murdered)
Alyce doesn't remember if she bought it up with Jodi about playing the victim.
After Jodi killed Travis, Jodi was very manipulative? Yes, but I'm not sure what you mean.
Now they are talking about what manipulative means. Bascially it mean lies.
Wasn't Jodi manipulative with men after the killing? what men (Alyce doesn't know what event he means-b/c there were so many of them-LOL)
Palin asks for an approach
Do you need your notes about the Purple Plum? I'm not sure which one you mean.
EX 610-Alyce's notes-June 13, 08-A waitress said Jodi was only nice to good looking men.
Palin objects-Approach Judge
Manipulative with men? She flirts with them. She used them.
Alyce says she looked at Jodi's behavior after the murder.
Alyce says that Jodi could have been manipulative with men.
Was Travis a man? I have no evidence she was manipulative with Travis.
JM says Alyce has 2 different views.
The purple plum- 5 days after the murder, Jodi was being manipulative with men.
(Alyce is talking herself into be a huge liar right now.)
You're a human lie detector? I wouldn't call myself that.
Could Jodi also be manipulative before the murder? Palin objects
Approach Judge
(Everytime JM asks a question, Palin objects)
Test message sent by Jodi to Travis- The steve "cover up" message
Could it be that Jodi is manipulative to get a "rise" out of Travis just to get him to pay attention to her? It's possible
If Jodi gets on top of Ryan, is she trying to make herself feel normal? I may do that also.
Are you saying you would do the same thing if you killed somebody? That's not my standard.
Alyce says she misspoke. Alyce didn't ask Jodi some questions b/c she felt uneasy and old fashion. Alyce went to talk to Jodi again after the interview with JM. (They are having a huge word match)
JM was fixing to play something and Palin objected and wanted an approach
JM started again, Palin wants another approach
KY and astro glide- Isn't it true we were talking about anal sex? I don't remember talking about it. JM wants to play the tape.
Palin asks for an approach (geez, she needs to go back to law school)
HAHA. This tape is funny. They are talking about anal sex. Alyce didn't ask Jodi any questions.
Lunch be back at 1:30
I was referring to WIllmott. She is wearing a navy suit and a bright orange shell.Maybe it's how it's coming across on the computer? @wildabouttrial, in his daily fashion revue this morning, said JM was dressed in a dark blue suit and light gold tie. Looks gold to me, and I think he looks extra sharp today!
Were you crying when you were stabbing him? --SuperJuan Martinez
Nobody believes a word out of your mouth. Why do you keep talking? -- ABC Interviewer to JA
Good view of stun belt under her shirt as court recessed for lunch. Some sort of hearing at 1pm.
Alyce just took Stabby's word for everything. Big mistake.
If the jury had to sit for days and listen to details about anal sex and KY, then why the eff can't Alyce ask a question about it?
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