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Thread: Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

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    Quote Originally Posted by coconut View Post
    Not for me, it just looks like she's standing up for herself and her own credibility. Right or wrong, she believes what she thinks.

    Juan needs to explain what secondary gain is, he's more distracted with the argument...
    I see the complete opposite. I see a person avoiding answering the questions he is asking. In your mind that is "standing up" for herself. I see that as just being an asshole that knows she screwed up.

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    what does she mean "of course i didn't talk to any other ppl" ?? doesn't she need to for a proper diagnosis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by coconut View Post
    Not for me, it just looks like she's standing up for herself and her own credibility. Right or wrong, she believes what she thinks.

    Juan needs to explain what secondary gain is, he's more distracted with the argument...
    She may be standing up for herself, but I think the way she's doing that is coming off the wrong way. Rather than sounding assertive and confident in herself, she sounds defiant and argumentative. I'm all for her wanting to be credible and wanting to assure the jury that she's a believable and educated witness, but I personally think her tone of voice and attitude comes off more angry than assertive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ***JiLL*** View Post
    I feel like Alyce's stance on the stand, with her arms crossed leaning forward is inappropriate for some reason. It's just not respectful or something.
    I believe that stance is defensive.

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    Holy fucking wow.

    Cannot believe she just said that about the non verbal communication between herself and JM. Alyce you go girl, keep digging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coconut View Post
    Not for me, it just looks like she's standing up for herself and her own credibility. Right or wrong, she believes what she thinks.

    Juan needs to explain what secondary gain is, he's more distracted with the argument...
    He did. He asked her if she knew what it was and then he explained it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    I see the complete opposite. I see a person avoiding answering the questions he is asking. In your mind that is "standing up" for herself. I see that as just being an asshole that knows she screwed up.
    Yep. Some people just see what they want to see.


    Quote Originally Posted by sheesh View Post
    Alyce L'Advocate seems to think this is a game.

    It takes 11 questions for her to admit what she eventually is forced to by the prosecutor and the Judge.

    Her credibility is lessened every time she enters into these fencing wars with the prosecutor with those impish smirks.

    She's easily less professional than even Dr. Dick. Her phone will not ring as often from here forward.
    Agree. I sure would not want her testifying on my behalf. No way, no how.
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    AWWW YEAH JW is shitting her pants about this. Is JM trying to get the interrogation tapes from 'rents in??

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    Is he going to be admitting video of the interview with Papa Arias and Flores?

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    Quote Originally Posted by coconut View Post
    Not for me, it just looks like she's standing up for herself and her own credibility. Right or wrong, she believes what she thinks.

    Juan needs to explain what secondary gain is, he's more distracted with the argument...
    Or standing up for her poor choice to throw her lot in with Jodi hook, line and sinker.

    To me, she mostly looks like she is refusing to answer even simple questions. When the judge has to admonish her so often, it can't possibly make her look good or credible to the jury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McMama View Post
    He's no longer going to allow her to run his cross. Good.
    Ugh... she is hard to keep under control
    Quote Originally Posted by ImBatman! View Post
    Why oh why would she only talk to Jodi???
    She can't even answer Yes or No to her own words, she feels the need to explain, when no explanation is warranted

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    Quote Originally Posted by twinkielucille View Post
    She may be standing up for herself, but I think the way she's doing that is coming off the wrong way. Rather than sounding assertive and confident in herself, she sounds defiant and argumentative. I'm all for her wanting to be credible and wanting to assure the jury that she's a believable and educated witness, but I personally think her tone of voice and attitude comes off more angry than assertive.
    That would be if JM asked her "Are you ANGRY with me Ms. LaViolette?"

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    Do I see a dvd in JM's hand? Is Bill Arias' police interview about to be played?
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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    I see the complete opposite. I see a person avoiding answering the questions he is asking. In your mind that is "standing up" for herself. I see that as just being an asshole that knows she screwed up.
    Exactly, she's trying to play chess with him in her mind and go the opposite direction he's taking her. That's why she's always saying 'i don't know where you're going with this' that's why she won't just answer the fucking question. If she didn't have to worry about where he's going with it (ie, backing her into a corner) she'd just tell the truth and say what needs to be said. I'm so over all this. I call Jodi a cunt to myself (I'm at work) like a billion times a day, every time they show her big fat ass nose on screen.

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    i expect alyce to say "whatever" any minute now

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    ooh police interrogation tape??
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    Quote Originally Posted by twinkielucille View Post
    She may be standing up for herself, but I think the way she's doing that is coming off the wrong way. Rather than sounding assertive and confident in herself, she sounds defiant and argumentative. I'm all for her wanting to be credible and wanting to assure the jury that she's a believable and educated witness, but I personally think her tone of voice and attitude comes off more angry than assertive.
    THIS. Sums it up perfectly.

    Were you crying when you were stabbing him? --SuperJuan Martinez
    Nobody believes a word out of your mouth. Why do you keep talking? -- ABC Interviewer to JA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Holy fucking wow.

    Cannot believe she just said that about the non verbal communication between herself and JM. Alyce you go girl, keep digging.
    I thought that was a creative reply that sent him off on a tangent, so it had the desired effect.

    For all the DV Expert Haters, if you were up there on the stand, would you just roll over and take it from Martinez and agree with everything he says? He is questioning her integrity and livelihood and I expect her to fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrea0121 View Post
    AWWW YEAH JW is shitting her pants about this. Is JM trying to get the interrogation tapes from 'rents in??
    Quote Originally Posted by McMama View Post
    Is he going to be admitting video of the interview with Papa Arias and Flores?
    Please let this happen!!! Please!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    That would be if JM asked her "Are you ANGRY with me Ms. LaViolette?"
    I would have peed my pants from laughing if he said that.

    Quote Originally Posted by andrea0121 View Post
    Exactly, she's trying to play chess with him in her mind and go the opposite direction he's taking her. That's why she's always saying 'i don't know where you're going with this' that's why she won't just answer the fucking question. If she didn't have to worry about where he's going with it (ie, backing her into a corner) she'd just tell the truth and say what needs to be said. I'm so over all this. I call Jodi a cunt to myself (I'm at work) like a billion times a day, every time they show her big fat ass nose on screen.
    Exactly. Martinez needs to say, "don't worry about where I am going with this....just answer the question."
    Last edited by Justice11; 04-09-2013 at 09:29 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McMama View Post
    Is he going to be admitting video of the interview with Papa Arias and Flores?
    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Do I see a dvd in JM's hand? Is Bill Arias' police interview about to be played?
    How awesome would that be? All Alyce is doing now is helping to rearrange the deck chairs on a fast sinking ship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McMama View Post
    Is he going to be admitting video of the interview with Papa Arias and Flores?
    I hope so. I hope it's not the Alyce video. UGH

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    Quote Originally Posted by McMama View Post
    Is he going to be admitting video of the interview with Papa Arias and Flores?
    *hopeful*

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    palin is looking very distraught now!

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    YAY!!! I hope this means that her fathers interrogation tape might come it :o)
    :o)

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    The fact that LaVi is behaving this way proves to me, more than anything else, that she is anti-male and pro-female.

    1. She took Jodi's side without really looking to see if Travis could have been abused. Jumped to conclusions without proper investigation -why? Because the female is always the abuse victim (in her eyes anyways).
    2. The defense made sure to have Jennifer examine her instead of putting MALE Nurmi up there - they perhaps knew that she would be less helpful with a male asking her questions.
    3. She refuses to admit any bias or obligation to Arias while avoiding to take into consideration any mentions from Travis that point the finger at Arias as the potential abuser/manipulator
    4. She spars with JM from moment ONE! She fights him even on meaningless aspects. She cannot stand the idea of a evil MAN getting one-up on her, no matter HOW meaningless the point may be.

    It is childish, unprofessional and insulting. If she would just honestly answer the questions, it would be better for her AND the DT.

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