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    I was just thinking about this "manifesto" that JA has written in the event of fame. Can you imagine how long that is? I mean if it took 18 pages for a letter to the Alexander family, imagine a creation where she is writing all about herself. I just don't even want to imagine trying to read something like that!
    Last edited by M Joy; 04-08-2013 at 10:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady MacBeth View Post
    i didn't mind poppy!

    what i do mind is godamned Willmott objecting every question. I believe it has gotten to the point where she is being obstructive. she is constantly being overruled. its time Juan filed his own motion...a motion to require willmott to re-read the rules of evidence before court convenes tomorrow.
    Thank You Lady MacBeth! And I know! I agree, but that's her job! She's in the water, after the titanic has sunk saying:

    "It's not cold! I feel just just fine! In fact, isn't there a bit of warm water over there?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by azkarisma View Post
    No, I thnk she said EMDR.

    EMDR is a type of therapy used to treat trauma victims, and those suffering from PTSD. I think they were speaking about it in the context of the jurors of having to get over seeing disturbing images of Travis.
    I spent about a year undergoing EMDR therapy. I'm not a huge fan of it, and think it's mainly BS.

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    Tmy1, I don't even wanna think about where all that tootsie pop was shoved. I'm am an admitted germaphobe which entertains my friends and family to no end. This whole trial and the gnarly details of what went where and how just gross me out to no end. Ex. her giving him a bj in the parking lot without having access to a hot antibacterial soaped shower just grosses me out to no end. And with all that butt sex going on she had no guarantee as to where that penis had been before she put it in her mouth..I'm gonna stop now cuz I am getting nauseous. Taking microbiology and courses on zoonosis and transmittable disease has not helped me in the least...Don't judge me dammit..:-P

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    Is that KatieCoolLady on Dr. Drew? talking about what happened with ALV and Samantha on Thursday
    No, Katiecoollady posts on websleuths. that is a different Katie. Annoying as hell, I am sure she is creaming over being included in that panel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    jaii site is freaking out cuz they didn't know about a manifesto

    Ann says:
    April 8, 2013 at 7:02 pm

    What is this manifesto reference?
    Reply

    Bystander says:
    April 8, 2013 at 7:04 pm

    Yes, good question.


    maria rigadopoulou says:
    April 8, 2013 at 7:15 pm

    Einstein,manifestos,signing,believing she?ll be famous one day.
    WTF is all that?????
    And both Nurmi&Wilmott look distressed.
    Anyone?

    I was curious who "maria rigadopoulou" is so I just did a search & found her all over the pro JA site talking about "group hugs" & how "the haters viewpoints are so toxic that sometimes gets us confused." She's friggin' confused alright.

    Her buddy when this trial's over

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    Quote Originally Posted by dianalyn View Post
    No, Katiecoollady posts on websleuths. that is a different Katie. Annoying as hell, I am sure she is creaming over being included in that panel.
    Actually both Katie Wick and KatieCoolLady were on Dr. Drew tonight

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    Quote Originally Posted by queenaevadamthng View Post
    Tmy1, I don't even wanna think about where all that tootsie pop was shoved. I'm am an admitted germaphobe which entertains my friends and family to no end. This whole trial and the gnarly details of what went where and how just gross me out to no end. Ex. her giving him a bj in the parking lot without having access to a hot antibacterial soaped shower just grosses me out to no end. And with all that butt sex going on she had no guarantee as to where that penis had been before she put it in her mouth..I'm gonna stop now cuz I am getting nauseous. Taking microbiology and courses on zoonosis and transmittable disease has not helped me in the least...Don't judge me dammit..:-P
    HeeHee...what about that special FACIAL she got? How does THAT make you feeeeel??

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    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    HeeHee...what about that special FACIAL she got? How does THAT make you feeeeel??
    Jodi's a walking petri dish. Ugh.
    I Feel More Like I Do Now Than When I Got Here

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    I can't link on my Ipad but I read on twitter another Arias from Yreka, Ca plead guilty today for slitting step fathers throat. They are finding mutual relatives and addresses connected to Jodi but not 100% sure they are related yet. Hopefully someone can find the link!

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    Previously unaired 48 Hours footage - Jodi Outakes.
    http://kristinarandle.com/blog/#!/en...e_redirect=yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilangiepangie View Post
    I can't link on my Ipad but I read on twitter another Arias from Yreka, Ca plead guilty today for slitting step fathers throat. They are finding mutual relatives and addresses connected to Jodi but not 100% sure they are related yet. Hopefully someone can find the link!
    http://www.siskiyoudaily.com/article...NEWS/130409756
    I Feel More Like I Do Now Than When I Got Here

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    I will never eat a toblerone again EVER!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VioletPlanet View Post

    Please remember that I told you that I was stalked ( therefore abused). I understand completely what abuse is. Believe me, I did the research. It is one of the reasons I am alive today.
    And luck. You were lucky. I don't think you did do the research. Stalking is an abusive behavior, but it's not the same as being in an abusive, personal relationship. Keep that in mind.

    You say: "then you would understand that abuse victims stay with their abusers, even if the abuse is terrible or dangerous." This is for some victims of abuse, not all. Prove to me where ALL victims stayed or stay with their abusers. You cannot.... because they do not. You have one example right in front of you. Why did I choose to break away, to not engage etc. I chose this...because I was in fear for my life and knew that engaging with my stalker might just kill me. I did everything I could to get away...and I did.
    ]

    Prove to me where every single stalking victim who sought help was never further harmed or killed by their stalkers, and I'd believe you. You can't say that. Because we both know that even if you get all the help you can, that stalkers can and will kill their victims, I would say that your entire line of reasoning is faulty based on this fact alone.

    Yes, if you seek help, your chances of survival are greater -- but it's not a guarentee that you will in fact survive.

    Travis was in the process of cutting Jodi out of his life...and like many abuse victims, he went back to her (well, technically, he let her come into his home). And like many abuse victims, he was probably manipulated by Jodi to sleep with her one last time. To take those pictures of in the shower for fun.

    Finding fault with Travis 's inaction is not blaming him for his murder.
    Did you read the definition of blame?

    Let me put it to you this way, so you can see how your statement is simply not true.

    My friend's father bought an expensive home. He made some poor investments, and over-extended his finances to the point that he was unable to maintain payments on his home. He made poor decisions regarding his money, but if he had only made a wiser decision, he would still be in his home.

    Do you see where the blame is being placed? Do you see how I pointed out his flaws, and the consequences for his actions? This is called placing blame. It's that simple.

    If you blame Travis, then own it. Don't try to deny it when every statement you make proves the contrary.
    I am faulting his

    It is simply saying he continued to engage. Neither of us knows why for sure he chose this route. He had many options at his finger tips. However, he chose the worst option with all the knowledge he had. ( The case evidence proves he knew she was stalking him, he knew she was unbalanced. He called her a sociopath and evil. This is not opinion but fact ). Had he tried to choose a better option, he MIGHT still be alive today. Moral of the story is: When someone shows you themselves, believe them. Take care of yourself by taking any action you can. If you continue to make unhealthy choices and can't stop, maybe you are addicted to something or someone and this is a problem only you can face and change.
    You don't know everything Travis ever did in his life. You can't know, because he's dead. The case evidence does NOT show stalking. The claims have NOT been proven. Is it likely that Jodi did display these behaviors? Yes. Do we know 100% that she did all those things? No. We don't.

    The moral of the story is indeed to take threats seriously. But you don't have to keep saying, "Travis did it all wrong".

    I think we've exhausted this topic now. Do you have anything else about the case that you'd like to discuss?

    Perhaps you'd like to discuss Jodi and her manifesto? That sounds like it could be super fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sayub View Post
    I was curious who "maria rigadopoulou" is so I just did a search & found her all over the pro JA site talking about "group hugs" & how "the haters viewpoints are so toxic that sometimes gets us confused." She's friggin' confused alright.

    Her buddy when this trial's over
    she's from Karditsa, Greece why she messin' around over here? ;)

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    MOTION TO PRECLUDE; ANY AND ALL EVIDENCE RELATED ANY WEIGHT ASSESSMENTS OR TESTING ON SHELVING AT PLACE OF DEATH

    This is essentially what the defense is trying to keep out of evidence in the rebuttal case:

    On March 14, 2013, the State disclosed to Ms. Arias a supplemental report
    authored by case agent Detective Flores. Based on what is contained in this report, on
    March 5, 2013, Detective Flores traveled to 11428 E Queensborough Ave, Mesa, Arizona
    85212. With him that day was Crime Scene Specialist K Kolhepp #16245, whom also
    works for the Mesa Police Department. While there measurements of the closet and the
    shelving present that day were made. Also of note is that assessments were made
    regarding the pins holding up the shelving and how the shelving was resting on those
    pins.
    In addition to the observations made on March 5, 2013, pictures were taken of the
    shelving unit along with an image of an unnamed individual placing weight on and/or
    lifting up one of the shelves that is now situated within the closet.


    http://media2.abc15.com/html/pdf/ariasmotion1.pdf
    Last edited by M Joy; 04-08-2013 at 08:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coconut View Post
    Hey everybody, did you forget about me today?



    I decide not do interview today because I don't want too famous. Not yet.

    Everybody still wants to know my story, it's so great story. I just can't tell you my story not right now about how I accidentally spray the red paint "Jodi = guilty" in bathroom of courthouse. It not my fault, I do nothing wrong. Never. When I pay enough I tell my story youl know all detail about me. It more interesting than trial itself, but just can't say anything about it right now. Unless you come my house to interview me I am outside to water plants.

    My good friend, The Judge Sherry, she call me today. We talk a lot of things, like trial, how Jodi guilty so much. Judge is such a special friend and she misses my hair my warm smile, so she invite me back to trial. I can sit in bleachers and pretend I am still of the jury. I still have number 5 always. Maybe I don't go back trial, but just visit judge house for tea and rubik's cube game. Happy time together.



    I have to go now, there some fans outside want to talk me. I will be watching trial on computers with comfort chair and sweatpants. I invest so much in trial and we can't say goodbye now.

    Please visit new webiste www.juror5.com I have Twitter on @juror5!

    Thanks . . . a lot



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    Violet stalked and abused is not the same. Possibly some mental aspects could be...but have you ever had someone walk up and unexpectedly kick you in the kidney while bathing a child causing you to fall into the faucet and gash your head wide open? Have you ever had someone take a pan of hot scrambled eggs off the stove and hit you in the face? Had a gun stuck in your mouth? Knife to the throat? Forced to have sex? Had the ever loving shit beat out of you? So you have to understand the hostile response sometimes when making the comparison.

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    I wonder if Jodi's manifest reads like "The Perfumed Garden". Maybe it's an autobiography. In that case, how did she have enough paper to write it? Oooooh, I know! Maybe she drew it! Like Pictionary, only less fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilangiepangie View Post
    I can't link on my Ipad but I read on twitter another Arias from Yreka, Ca plead guilty today for slitting step fathers throat. They are finding mutual relatives and addresses connected to Jodi but not 100% sure they are related yet. Hopefully someone can find the link!
    Got it
    http://www.siskiyoudaily.com/article...NEWS/130409756

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    Perfumed Garden...lmao..maybe Snapping Garden

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilangiepangie View Post
    I can't link on my Ipad but I read on twitter another Arias from Yreka, Ca plead guilty today for slitting step fathers throat. They are finding mutual relatives and addresses connected to Jodi but not 100% sure they are related yet. Hopefully someone can find the link!
    arias is an extremely common name here is california, i know a few arias'

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    Quote Originally Posted by queenaevadamthng View Post
    Violet stalked and abused is not the same. Possibly some mental aspects could be...but have you ever had someone walk up and unexpectedly kick you in the kidney while bathing a child causing you to fall into the faucet and gash your head wide open? Have you ever had someone take a pan of hot scrambled eggs off the stove and hit you in the face? Had a gun stuck in your mouth? Knife to the throat? Forced to have sex? Had the ever loving shit beat out of you? So you have to understand the hostile response sometimes when making the comparison.

    Gun to my head, yes. Physically,verbally and emotionally abused, yes. Someone who watched my every move and if I did not do what he said, I was threatened with death, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    I was just thinking about this "manifesto" that JA has written in the event of fame. Can you imagine how long that is? I mean if it took 18 pages for a letter to the Alexander family, imagine a creation where she is writing all about herself. I just don't even want to imagine trying to read something like that!
    I wonder if the manifesto talks about a Conspiracy Theory at all.... ?


    this must be it! just a quick read

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    That perfumed garden is prolly hiding some of those teeth like the creature in Alien..Now that would be a funny as hell photo shop project for our gifted artist in the group, her hoo haa with the mutiple sets of Alien creature teeth..lmao..sometimes I tickle the shit outta myself even if ya'll don't laugh..

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