Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

[poppym]

#JodiArias EXCLUSIVE DR PHIL SCOOP and Jodi Family MONEY:

Dr Phil Production Company is paying for #JodiArias Family living expenses.
Hotel and food TRAVEL for the last 94 days in Arizona

Excuse: paying MOM Sandra for her daily NOTES she writes while trial testimony takes place.

Dr Phil paid license fee for photos and video of Arias Family

Dr. Phil producer visited Jodi 2 times in jail so far per jailhouse visitor log

Dr Phil paid Cindy Anthony $600,000.00 for her interview after the trial
As for Cindy Anthony's Charity. ITS CLOSED 90% of the $600k went to ADMINISTRATIVE COST = FACT

http://www.nonprofitquarterly.org/ph...y-charity.html

OH MY 'FUCKING DISGUSTING' GOD!!! Scuse My Fench!

What a turnaround Sandy!

[poppym]

hi poppy, great posts!

Hey REPS Hatchan!

[wasthinking]

Juror interview video is up

http://www.azcentral.com/video/2280465369001

I apologize for the idiot Chris Williams. That isn't an interview! What a scammer asshole. He linked that as his interview on his twitter. JERK

[Lilangiepangie]

wow karma is a bitch

she better save all the money she gets from this trial, because i dont know how she will be able to recover after this

I just read the petition already has 1766 people

[Sweet Pea]

That's a really good point. Why would Alyce think the whole 'memory' question from JW was humorous? And how would she know to ask a question like that? So either 1- she has been watching the trial or 2- she was coached. Both are disturbing, but I have the say the latter is much more disturbing...and believable...considering the lack of professionalism from JA's team. I'm surprised the judge hasn't spoken with them (unless she has). I feel like the DT has turned this into a game. Unbelievable...and SAD.

I agree, in a way I think they are celebrating on a sinking ship. They are turning this trial into a mockery of our court system. JM has his own style and it is up to the Jury to decide if they appreciate it or not. I really believe the Judge needs to take charge.

[loonywop]

coconut if I could rep you I would.You make me laugh and that's why I'm here.Yea he would be the lizard boss and I would end up abusing him lol.Ladies love him for his gracian fomula /shoe polish solution,,,,he's a star and it's his 15 minutes too.these people ...ALL of em are outta their league....big fish in a little pond .Da Wild wild west.Shoot em up cowboy

Just write up your own Martinez fantasies and post them on the forum. I'm curious what all these ladies see in him... maybe they like being yelled at and forced to answer complicated questions?

Here are some scenarios to get you started. You are:
1. An unruly expert witness and forget your testimony on the stand
2. Court reporter held late after trial to review transcription
3. Paralegal assigned to help Juan with the case
4. Judge losing patience with his rough questioning
5. Fan on the courthouse steps competing with Katie Wick for his attention

[hatchan]

I agree, in a way I think they are celebrating on a sinking ship. They are turning this trial into a mockery of our court system. JM has his own style and it is up to the Jury to decide if they appreciate it or not. I really believe the Judge needs to take charge.

^this! mockery, FUCKERY...somebody should take control!

[loonywop]

yo sunshine it's all fantasy here

No. Do not do this. Make this a pm thing. I swear I will ban anyone posting fantasy in here.

ETA:

here here cudo's to you

the martinez cheer squad meets here: http://mydeathspace.com/vb/showthrea...32#post3378232

you guys were given the ultimate gift! you can now create sub-topics related to the jodi arias trial...

i suggest possibly creating a 'hate on the defense team thread' so that i can come here to catch up on the trial without being offended by all the baldy this, fatty that stuff...

maybe we can limit this thread to discussion of the trial and take the other stuff to other threads that YOU CREATE!!! neato, huh!

[dizzyp]

#JodiArias EXCLUSIVE DR PHIL SCOOP and Jodi Family MONEY:

Dr Phil Production Company is paying for #JodiArias Family living expenses.
Hotel and food TRAVEL for the last 94 days in Arizona

Excuse: paying MOM Sandra for her daily NOTES she writes while trial testimony takes place.

Dr Phil paid license fee for photos and video of Arias Family

Dr. Phil producer visited Jodi 2 times in jail so far per jailhouse visitor log

Dr Phil paid Cindy Anthony $600,000.00 for her interview after the trial
As for Cindy Anthony's Charity. ITS CLOSED 90% of the $600k went to ADMINISTRATIVE COST = FACT

http://www.nonprofitquarterly.org/ph...y-charity.html

Integrity is officially dead... that's some real BS Dr. McGrath. OTOH I knew Mama was getting paid for all the hypergraphia.. it runs in the family... I'll bet Jodi has a side deal as well.

[PopRocks]

Integrity is officially dead... that's some real BS Dr. McGrath. OTOH I knew Mama was getting paid for all the hypergraphia.. it runs in the family... I'll bet Jodi has a side deal as well.

yea, i bet jodi is hoping to get a deal out of this, otherwise why else would she be writing in her journals during court?

i just hope she doesnt get out so she cant profit off of this situation

[Kdon]

#JodiArias EXCLUSIVE DR PHIL SCOOP and Jodi Family MONEY:

Dr Phil Production Company is paying for #JodiArias Family living expenses.
Hotel and food TRAVEL for the last 94 days in Arizona

Excuse: paying MOM Sandra for her daily NOTES she writes while trial testimony takes place.

Dr Phil paid license fee for photos and video of Arias Family

Dr. Phil producer visited Jodi 2 times in jail so far per jailhouse visitor log

Dr Phil paid Cindy Anthony $600,000.00 for her interview after the trial
As for Cindy Anthony's Charity. ITS CLOSED 90% of the $600k went to ADMINISTRATIVE COST = FACT

http://www.nonprofitquarterly.org/ph...y-charity.html

I guess Sandy had to do something for $ since the Enquirer didn't pay her for the bogus pedo letters. I watched the interview with Sandy and felt sorry for her.... For a minute. Then I went back to the letters and the DA ribbons.... I have a really hard time having any sort of sympathy for her

[hatchan]

@coconut

Originally Posted by coconut
Just write up your own Martinez fantasies and post them on the forum. I'm curious what all these ladies see in him... maybe they like being yelled at and forced to answer complicated questions?

Here are some scenarios to get you started. You are:
1. An unruly expert witness and forget your testimony on the stand
2. Court reporter held late after trial to review transcription
3. Paralegal assigned to help Juan with the case
4. Judge losing patience with his rough questioning
5. Fan on the courthouse steps competing with Katie Wick for his attention.

love this coco!

plea bargin foreplay, anyone?

[poppym]

Ok! Lots of folks have said! And I believe but! Can anyone actually give me the law on why LaViolette should NOT have spoken to Samantha? I am aware of why not ethically? But a few folk have said it would be against the law?

[hatchan]

TRAVIS: "You are the worst thing that has EVER happened to me!"

JODI: "Thems are fightin'(killin) words!"

[Tia111]

Any of you guys ever read The Art of War?









I would be a lot more impressed if he was using a scalpel instead of a sledgehammer to take down this witness.

Prolonged warfare...surely that quote was meant for the defense team who had AL on the stand so long she has developed a damn UTI..

[Lilangiepangie]

TRAVIS: "You are the worst thing that has EVER happened to me!"

JODI: "Thems are fightin'(killin) words!"

Bowie was cool enough to make a fan fiction thread! You should check it out. I don't know how to link it on my. iPad


ETA:

Ok! Lots of folks have said! And I believe but! Can anyone actually give me the law on why LaViolette should NOT have spoken to Samantha? I am aware of why not ethically? But a few folk have said it would be against the law?

It won't let me post links on my iPad but I believe it's called the arizona victims bill of rights

[hatchan]

Prolonged warfare...surely that quote was meant for the defense team who had AL on the stand so long she has developed a damn UTI..

well now, that DEPENDS on the diagnosis!

[Tia111]

The defense can fiddlefart around and try their tricks - they don't have the burden of proof. Alyce did a reasonable job casting doubt on Travis's lifestyle and showed that he was a horndog who treated women poorly and without respect. More like sex toys. Whatever, right?

Has anyone in their life ever "won" an argument by yelling? Have you ever been in a business meeting and got your point across by raising your voice and pounding the table? Maybe if you name was Saddam but that's about it.

Yelling isn't going to win the case. Screaming won't convince the jury. Clearly presenting evidence and showing contradictions will. Making a precise and succinct argument, without emotion, will get the job done. Martinez has taken the bait again and decided to verbally assault a quirkly grandma who lectures on battered women. Only a dumbass would hurt his own case that way, by distracting from the real issues with emotion.

Coconut....i just gotta respectfully ask you, how many people have you persuaded to accept your thoughts and opinions as theirs? I do give you props for your efforts. I hear JAII calling you.....

[NCBlonde]

In a case like this, was ALV supposed to not follow anything on t.v. prior to testimony?
Despite the brashness way JM does his questioning, he demands straight answers and eventually gets them without all the witness's side comments. She kept trying to avoid his questioning of an interview being an important part of helping someone. My God, how else does she find out what she needs to counsel on if she doesn't interview and find out the problem? This case I'm sure is unique. How many other people have thousands of texts to go through? How many troubled clients keep a journal?

As for JM, he's already gotten out info that Jodi left home on her own to get away from what she perceived as abuse and control. He got that out of ALV after the comparison of Snow White being thrown out of the house and ALV said Jodi left on her own. (hope the jury picked this up). She also had to admit Jodi had the job so she was the provider.
ALV will have to explain why Matt told her of Bobbie's abuse if she didn't talk to anyone but Jodi. Kind of shows she did.

I really don't think she did talk to Matt McCartney. Martinez asked her if it was true that the simply read summaries from interviews that other people conducting; she said yes. So, as far as MM goes, I bet it's either what Jodi said that MM said (just like LaVa taking Jodi's word for what Travis allegedly said and did), or LaVa read someone else's interview summary with MM.

Looked at the pics (nice find Berm!), and I still can't get over how absolutely pristine that closet is. Like, perfect. There is absolutely no way it's even plausible that someone running/fighting for her life entered that closet and retrieved something. No. Way.

I noticed that even his garage was in pretty great condition. Most people, imo, don't put a whole lot of effort into having a pristine garage, unless they are someone who is very into working on cars and such, and even then... Well, his garage looks tidier than some people's living quarters; like Jodi's little hovel.

Because grandpas fingerprints might be on them? Or he might have a box of ammo that matched still at home? Or because having bullets different than the ones in the stolen gun was safer than keeping bullets that provided yet another link the the theft of the gun?

Well, if I recall, the .25 was kept in a dresser drawer, not in the gun cabinet. That can possibly explain 2 things.

1. Why Jodi opted to take that particular gun, as opposed to something bigger and more lethal. It was unsecured. I don't know if grandpa's gun cabinet had a combo lock/lock&key or whatever, but it might have.

Really, too, with the gun being in the dresser drawer, a person could argue that it was taken because it was happened upon while in the process of taking things of value, as opposed to someone breaking in with the partial intention of taking a gun. Given the options available, it's rare that someone will intentionally take the smallest caliber, and one likely unable to best do what a person would want a gun for, kill someone (quickly).

2. If the gun was in the dresser drawer as opposed to the gun cabinet, it was likely because it was for personal protection, and while small, it would perhaps be something that grandpa could grab quickly from his room, in hopes of warding off an intruder. He wouldn't have to risk going to the other room to get a gun in the case of a home invasion. Any gun; even one that size; may have been capable of warding off an intruder, particularly one who is not all that experienced with guns.

The .25 being separate from the other guns makes sense from an ammo point as well. Let's say that Jodi just grabbed the gun and whatever bullets were in it. They were not loaded with hollow points yet because grandpa hadn't gotten the chance to take the ammo out and change it. Perhaps he had decided with a small gun like that, hollow points were needed to make it more effective in taking down an intruder.

Admittedly, I a far from a gun expert. But it would make sense to me that if a person wanted to keep a small caliber firearm for protection, they might reason that using a more "lethal" bullet would make it a more effective weapon in dealing with would-be intruders. So yeah, I believe gramps could've bought the hollow points intending to load them into the gun, but hadn't gotten around to them before Jodi swiped it. If this is a gun with 6 or 7 rounds, that would have been plenty to kill someone without having to take bullets out of the box.

I find it funny that you all sit here and bitch about how they are taking those messages out of context and how not right it is. Yet you sit here and bash ALV over HALF a statement she made. I om not a fan of hers, I think she is about as full of shit as a person could possibly be. I have zero respect for the things she is putting out there in regards to the whole thing.. but... She said Travis was not the victim OF ABUSE! She did not say he was not the victim period. She said OF ABUSE.

I don't believe she has ever said he was a victim of anything though; which obviously he was. The frustrating part is Travis was the victim of domestic violence. He was the one who was stalked; had his tires slashed; had his email hacked. Those are all classic examples of stalking; yet LaVa mentions none of that. It's disingenuous.

I know she is a defense witness, but even then, as a therapist and so-called abuse expert, she should be examining all facets of the relationship; including proven incidents, as well as phoney baloney things that Jodi has said that have absolutely no proof whatsoever.

Had she said that they were emotionally abusive towards each other; that they both had abusive pasts (even though I don't believe Jodi did); that they were toxic for each other; her tripe would've been easier to swallow and not engendered the level of repulsion and hostility.

I don't think anyone believes Travis was a perfect angel. And yeah he said some mean things to her; but taken in context and realizing those words/insults were provoked by things Jodi said and things Jodi did, and did not just get pulled from the ether; Travis was the victim in both ways and the perpetrator in none, imo.

LaVa, for a therapist, doesn't even give the slightest notion that she is impartial. Woman = victim, man = abuser; even when woman drives hundreds of miles to butcher a man in his own home.

She repulses me. And if this is the kind of attitude she has, then she's done a LOT of damage to people in her 30 years of so-called therapy.

Can someone please explain the conflicting stories on Juror 5? One one hand, she has sympathy for the accused murderer. On the other hand, it was the defense that gave her the boot. Not adding up. If she did indeed have sympathy for JA, is she bright enough to figure out that her presence in the courtroom as an observer may cause a mistrial? What will be more interesting is finding out what the other jurors think of this whole deal.

I can't even taken any of the media seriously, because some of them are still saying that she has pink/blue hair, when it is obviously blonde and red. If they can't get the hair color right -- something that is obviously to anyone sighted -- then anything else they say can be taken with a grain of salt.

[hatchan]

Bowie was cool enough to make a fan fiction thread! You should check it out. I don't know how to link it on my. iPad

Travis actually texted/IMed this; Jodi stabbed him 27 times, slit his throat from ear to ear and shot him in the face/head.
Real enough for you?

[Harlette]

Ok! Lots of folks have said! And I believe but! Can anyone actually give me the law on why LaViolette should NOT have spoken to Samantha? I am aware of why not ethically? But a few folk have said it would be against the law?

arizona victims right laws says that no one from the defense team - including their expert witnesses - can approach any of the victim, and when it is a case like this were the victim is murdered, then it extends to the family

eta: it is considered harrasement and is actually against the law in arizona

[dizzyp]

Ok! Lots of folks have said! And I believe but! Can anyone actually give me the law on why LaViolette should NOT have spoken to Samantha? I am aware of why not ethically? But a few folk have said it would be against the law?

this might apply:

Crime Victims' Rights - Arizona Attorney General http://www.azag.gov/victims_rights/C...RightsLaws.pdf
13-4443 Victim's Rights

B. The defendant, the defendant's attorney or agent of the defendant shall only initiate contact
with the victim through the prosecutor's office.

[Tia111]

I think she was channeling onne of the sister wives from the HBO series "Big Love!" Hopefully it will be her shower day before Monday. That greasy hair is begging for some suds! Maybe a little squirt of Dawn...

[hatchan]

I think she was channeling onne of the sister wives from the HBO series "Big Love!" Hopefully it will be her shower day before Monday. That greasy hair is begging for some suds! Maybe a little squirt of Dawn...

some HEAD & shoulders........but how do you give SHOULDERS?

[Tia111]

It's not about loving Martinez or hating him. I have no feelings one way or the other about the guy. It's about how well he's doing his job. At this point I still think the jury will find Jodi guilty of first-degree murder but it will be in spite of Martinez, not because of the great job he's doing. The evidence is so abundant any competent attorney could lay it out and get a conviction IMO. I just hope Martinez doesn't blow it by alienating the jury with all his blustering and bullying.

He did not do himself or the case any good today.

I disagree with ALL of this. Martinez is exactly where he should be doing what he was born to do. If Travis were my brother, I would not want anyone but him speaking for him! There is nothing wrong with you having your opinion about his work, however his record speaks for itself and he has earned the job he has and he is paid to use his awesome experience and choose how to present the evidence. In the end you can opine all day about how you think it should be done but unless you are willing to earn your way into his position, complaining here is just about ALL you can do. Believe me I have many complaints about the DT and all the time they wasted this week but unless I get a law degree, I can only vent here!