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Thread: Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

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    Juan is jok

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    I wouldn't count on trial starting on time today. Court is pretty empty still. My guess is more like 9:50 #JodiAriasing around with Travis' family as he we wait. He seems to be in a great mood. #JodiArias
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    Am I the first to admit, I cried when I watched the parents

    I don't care if they are jerks today, watching them get the news was heartbreaking.
    I didn't cry but what I saw was parent's that were terrorized by JA-- I felt for them... having a child that is that disturbed and feeling helpless about it must be hell.

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    7 years in a relationship and still a virgin? really? that is one huge set of blue balls...the biggest ever
    Quote Originally Posted by Poppycock View Post
    I think he was asking Sky Hughes for the 4k; he was likely upside down on his mortgage in '08 and trying to refinance.

    VP must really be spreading the smites since she has smited me twice in a matter of days! I may have to lay a smite on her!
    "It's a free country and you know it. Peace" 3/28
    "Hmmmmm you know who she is referring to....why not be honest ?"" 4/2

    I asked her in a rep to remove her avatar of Travis' post mortem lips, I found it so distasteful. At least she did.

    Thanks Dimple. I see several profiles with her pic, maybe some are fake. The one that seems real has Dido as favorite music.

    Her mother seems to have been sucked in to the defense claims. Why would she have tried to sell the fake pedo letters, and why be so disrespectful of Travis' family? Her demeanor deserves no sympathy imho.


    Deanna has him, and someone posted a very cute pic of him lying in a bed with a couple of hand crocheted blankets. I am very curious why we have not heard anything from Deanna, if he had a seven year relationship w/her. She would know if he was a virgin or not?

    In regards to LaVi, I sure think she has an agenda! To help Jodi win and make herself a nest egg too!

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    Court confirmed trial is on for tomorrow. #JodiArias


    Yay!

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    Juan just arrived in Gray suit with blue tie and light blue shirt. He has his Bose wave radio and accordion file ready to go. #JodiArias


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    Tanisha's boyfriend has on a salmon colored shirt and gray suit. This time it really is a salmon colored shirt, you will see. #JodiArias


    Husband! LOL

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    Juan is joking around with Travis' family as he we wait. He seems to be in a great mood. #JodiArias


    Hope he gets to cross today!

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    If I was Nurmi I would toss out the tan suits and replace them all with the Scarface ensemble. #JodiArias


    LOL. I love WAT's color commentary

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    It's on follks

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post
    I posted part of the email Jodi sent to Abe yesterday. Here is the full email:

    Feb 18, 2007
    Hi Abe
    I'm writing you for a few reasons. Let me get the more trivial ones out of the way first. I tried reaching you by phone during the week without any luck. Probably because I've been calling at ridiculous hours of the night after I'm off work. Like the last three months, I find myself once again near the end of the billing cycle of my cell phone, out of minutes, and paying through the teeth to talk on the phone during daylight hours. But I digress. The reason I've been trying to reach you is to let you know that I was listening to the online version of "Never Before never again" at freedomvideos.com (?), and some thoughtful jerk laced a voice over on Mr. Stonecipher toward the end of the video. He says "there has never been a better time or a better opportunity than right now at Pre-Paid Loser" I am not joking. That's what you hear. If you want to hear it for yourself, go the video. It's about 11 minutes and 45 seconds into it. Just thought I would make you aware of that, since you use that on occasion for your prospects.

    The other, and more important reason that I am writing to you is regarding our friendship. You have been a wonderful source of information on many levels, and I appreciate your insight and perspective. I'm glad that we met, and I'm glad we are friends. But after considering a few aspects of our friendship, such as the conversation we had the other night revisiting the dream you had to the hug we exchanged at the last AFT in Anaheim. I think we should re-think our conduct toward each other. I know that between you and me those things are simply gestures of a functioning friendship between a couple of single individuals. Up until recently I've considered myself single, and I never would have considered it to be inappropriate or even given it a second thought. Although I'm not married and I'm not Travis' girlfriend. From now going forward I feel that you and I should keep a friendly distance. I'm certainly not suggesting that we ignore each other, but even something as simple as a hug can be misconstrued as something it is not. You and I and everyone are hugging everyone else in this business. We are like a big family. So it may seem somewhat like a foreign request on my part, but you're a pretty savvy guy, so I know you'll understand.

    I'm aware that you like me, and you've made that pretty clear. I'm flattered by that. I hesitate to tell you all of this only because I am reminded of the stories you've shared with me about women taking it the wrong way (like when you prospect them, for example). Your internal dialogue is less than friendly ("Look, lady. I didn't ask,, and I'm not interested in you anyway!") So in considering that, please know that I'm not assuming that you're still pursuing me or that you see me as some kind of prize that you're striving (??) for. We rarely talk outside of PPL events, and I am fully aware that you have a life completely outside the realm of "Jodi" which involves a blossoming business, a large social circle and network of people, and most likely many other female interest as well.

    You already know that I'm seeing Travis. I've never divulged many details about our relationship simply because I consider certain details to be sacred and private, and should be kept between him and I anyway. I know I've told you that we are not in a committed relationship, but regardless of our status, I care so deeply about his. I often ask myself, how would Travis feel about this? Or, how I would I feel if Travis were doing what I'm doing right now with someone else? In fact, this reasoning has been a compelling force behind all of my actions, decisions and conduct as of late.

    Now I'm sure you're already aware of this, but when we hugged at the Grove a few weeks ago, my intention was nothing more than to warmly greet a friend and business associate. But I've since given this further thought and I've asked myself, would I have acted the same if Travis were there that day? In truth, I would not have. And this leads me to question my own character. I don't want to be inconsistent, especially not when it involves something and someone that is so important to me. Granted, human behavior is often modified and adjusted under various circumstances. Everyone does this, it is natural. But at this point, none of that matters to me. What matters to me is how that which I am accountable for would make Travis feel. I care more about him than I ever have. His happiness is of cardinal significance to me, and his feelings and opinions I value more greatly than gold.
    I didn't write this email to expound upon my secret worship-Travis-agenda. I only wanted to clear a few things up, if not for you, then for myself. For I'm sure you already "get" all of this anyway. But at least now I've said it, and I can rest easier knowing that we are on the same page about things. I think you're a great person who's never had a single bad intention toward me, and I appreciate all of the time you've taken to impart to me your knowledge, perspectives, and experiences. I will certainly see you around at events, to which you bring a lively energy.
    Take care until then, Jodi
    Only a cray cray would send this to a guy she went out with one time! I think Abe said on HLN that he did not get this email. So it was to manipulate Travis. All Abe wanted anyway was to get the magic in her thong. Bet he is so happy that didn't happen!
    Quote Originally Posted by loonywop View Post
    7 years in a relationship and still a virgin? really? that is one huge set of blue balls...the biggest ever
    Exactly why Deanna may be of interest ~ but on second thought, it has nada to do with him being murdered, though she could have disputed his claim of virginity that LaVi says he was putting out there and deceiving the community with. He may have had a definition of virginity meaning the vaj sex that has become so talked about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    Growing up, a very good friend next door, her mom was manic depressive...
    Quote Originally Posted by faq_q View Post
    I was talking about my brother-in-law the other day, he is Manic depressive
    I think it's important to point out the distinction between Bipolar and Borderline Personality Disorder.

    Bipolar is what we've also heard called manic-depressive. It can be treated with medication quite successfully. You'll often find a history of those with bipolar disorder going off their meds. As it was once described to me, the "high" or good feeling your get in a manic phase is the "best high you've ever had time 1,000." But more time for bipolar disorder is spent in deep depression. Once stabized on medication, people with bipolar disorder can lead very functional lives.

    Borderline Personality Disorder is much more difficult to deal with. There is no "pill" to fix a personality disorder. BPD mood swings will cycle much more frequently -- even in a single day. BPD are very challenging for psychiatrists to deal with, as they'll often go from idealizing the therapist to the point of coming onto them sexually (male or female, regardless of sexual preference), to devaluing them and abruptly walking out in a rage for periods of time.

    Problem is from the clinical side, not everyone fits into a neat little diagnosis.

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    I got a smite that called me a fascist lol, but no siggy on it, so I cant return the favor lol

    Can Juan's experts say differently than the defenses? would it come down which one is more believable or would they be able to call an objection because it characterizes their experts testimony?

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    Good morning everyone! Remember when the trial started? We were all much younger then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheesh View Post
    I think it's important to point out the distinction between Bipolar and Borderline Personality Disorder.

    Bipolar is what we've also heard called manic-depressive. It can be treated with medication quite successfully. You'll often find a history of those with bipolar disorder going off their meds. As it was once described to me, the "high" or good feeling your get in a manic phase is the "best high you've ever had time 1,000." But more time for bipolar disorder is spent in deep depression. Once stabized on medication, people with bipolar disorder can lead very functional lives.

    Borderline Personality Disorder is much more difficult to deal with. There is no "pill" to fix a personality disorder. BPD mood swings will cycle much more frequently -- even in a single day. BPD are very challenging for psychiatrists to deal with, as they'll often go from idealizing the therapist to the point of coming onto them sexually (male or female, regardless of sexual preference), to devaluing them and abruptly walking out in a rage for periods of time.

    Problem is from the clinical side, not everyone fits into a neat little diagnosis.
    You are correct, the times that this happens is when he gets of his meds thinking he is fine. This time, he changed meds and they take a little while to get into your bloodstream since they are suspended release. It's tragic because he is such a great guy. Anyways, I'm not sure what Stabby has exactly but I know that she is fully cognizant of her actions contrarily to what she has said on the stand.


    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    I find it hilarious that YOU are acting all high and mighty toward us when you're posting on here just like anyone else and in addition, defending a murderer. A child murderer, at that. Go fuck a Popsicle.

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    that should have been |MIS-characterizes

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdeadline View Post
    Good morning everyone! Remember when the trial started? We were all much younger then.
    And a bit more sane

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    The Journal, the F'in Journal...arrrgh

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    The look on Stabby's face as she watches other people fondle her sacred journals is creeping me out
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    OMFG, we are on the laws of fatal attraction again. Will they ever give that up?


    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    I find it hilarious that YOU are acting all high and mighty toward us when you're posting on here just like anyone else and in addition, defending a murderer. A child murderer, at that. Go fuck a Popsicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post
    IDK, my brain is foggy on that. It was a BBC email. (blind carbon copy) but the address in the emails header is Travis' with Forward. Maybe somebody with email experience knows???? I don't.
    Maybe the computer guru on Juan's rebuttal list
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    I will be so thankful when Juan finally gets to cross Alyce. That is going to be a "get the fresh hot buttery popcorn" moment for sure.

    Are there going to be any more witnesses for the defense?

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    I'm starting to see the light at the end of this tunnel. Soon we will get done with this awful direct examination of these "expert" witnesses, then thankfully JM's cross. Then questions and then follow up. Then the defense's case is done, right?
    And maybe this insanity can finally be bottled up and forgotten? JM can put everything in proper perspective and then this debacle will be over?

    but not before....

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    It scares me to see a HUGE stack of papers that Willmott has with her, she just pulled another journal entry from there. #JodiArias


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    The look on Stabby's face as she watches other people fondle her sacred journals is creeping me out
    I noticed that when Stabby was on the stand...kinda reminded me of my cat eye'ing a chunk of food I'm about to give to him

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    Alyce did not like JM's last objection. The look on her face was priceless.


    ETA:

    Sandy Arias's twin not in court today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    I'm starting to see the light at the end of this tunnel. Soon we will get done with this awful direct examination of these "expert" witnesses, then thankfully JM's cross. Then questions and then follow up. Then the defense's case is done, right?
    And maybe this insanity can finally be bottled up and forgotten? JM can put everything in proper perspective and then this debacle will be over?

    but not before....

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    It scares me to see a HUGE stack of papers that Willmott has with her, she just pulled another journal entry from there. #JodiArias

    Did you see it? Big damn black clips UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH How can she be so out of touch with the jury who are all so done with her nonsense and still have a license.
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    On cross.......... 1st question
    Martinez:How much have you been paid to current date for your testimony?
    Aly:210 thousand dollers
    Martinez: Do you think the good people of Arizona have gotten their moneys worth?
    Aly:(yes or no,I don't care)
    Martinez: no further questions

    Hey a guy can hope can't he?

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    UGGHHH..there she is with that CREEPY "like a statue" thing...it always makes me think the feed is frozen

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    Did you see it? Big damn black clips UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH How can she be so out of touch with the jury who are all so done with her nonsense and still have a license.
    Yeah, I saw it too. It looks like Palen will be up there for at least today into tomorrow.


    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    I find it hilarious that YOU are acting all high and mighty toward us when you're posting on here just like anyone else and in addition, defending a murderer. A child murderer, at that. Go fuck a Popsicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Alyce did not like JM's last objection. The look on her face was priceless.

    For a Expert witness -- she always looks in awe when there is an objection

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