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Thread: Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    The fact that Alyce supposedly reviewed ALL of the info and somehow skipped over this tape of Stabby's Mom and disregarded it completely and is sitting up on that witness stand spinning lies with/for Stabby is making me very very angry
    I think it was just released. The jury will likely never see it.

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    What the fuck?

    "Dr. Drew I just wanted to hug that juror to let her know that everybody out there supports her." Hello!!!?? McFly!!!

    That juror almost destroyed the fucking trial after 3 months and ignored the judge's instructions!!! Crazy fool almost caused a mistrial and gave a killer grounds for appeal. How about a nice big GTFO!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnieBelle View Post
    With all due respect, I don't get why you keep beating this dead horse. No one will ever know why Travis made the choices he did.....he is not here for any of us to question. As they say in town meetings....I make a motion to moooooooove this "did Travis invite his ultimate fate?" along. Second? Do I hear a second?? Please??!!
    I second that motion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lorizfree View Post
    jodi is one disturbed individual, even your own mom is calling you out on your behaviors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freethinker View Post
    I think it was just released. The jury will likely never see it.

    Alyce as an "expert" defense witness supposedly reviewed all of the interviews of her family/friends. So she just basically discarded anything that doesn't fit her theory of all men are bad and that doesn't jibe with Stabby's lies.

    Makes me sick! The damage she is doing to real victims of DV is horrendous and real.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VioletPlanet View Post
    This is not the point... The point is that Travis did not do anything truly active to try and thwart his known stalker. There was much he could have done legally and otherwise. Perhaps, had he faced the obvious insanity of which he was fully aware, he would have had at least one chance to save his own life by simply being prepared.
    I'm having a hard time with this "known stalker" stuff. He made jokes about her being a stalker. I've made jokes about people being stalkers. That doesn't mean I believe they are stalkers. I may think they are just weird and needy. You're assuming he knew she was a dangerous stalker. She lived 1000 miles away. How do you know he wasn't just easing his way out of her life?

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    i saw a pic of some one dressed in a giant bunny suit sitting on a pot outside the front of the court w/ a sign that said "this is all jodi is missing" - to me thats worse than martinez taking a couple pics

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnieBelle View Post
    With all due respect, I don't get why you keep beating this dead horse. No one will ever know why Travis made the choices he did.....he is not here for any of us to question. As they say in town meetings....I make a motion to moooooooove this "did Travis invite his ultimate fate?" along. Second? Do I hear a second?? Please??!!

    Yes, You hear a second from me. The only reason I keep reiterating this issue is because some people keep misconstruing my opinion. I won't allow it.....Sooooo... I am not going to give in...and they are not going to give in....lets just agree to disagree and avoid the subject. I would much rather spend my time on this forum dissecting the incredulous murderous insanity called Jodi Arias.
    Last edited by Peace Corpse; 04-02-2013 at 06:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VioletPlanet View Post
    Great points ...I just wish Travis would have taken care of himself and done anything he could have to get this known slithering creature out of his life. He did not. I truly believe that if he had...he COULD be alive today. COULD is so much better than NOT.
    Maybe he DID do everything that HE thought possible?
    I mean, what if she told him about the sex tape and held it over his head in order to keep him more compliant?
    What if there was some sort of blackmail involved, keeping him silent? I'm sure he would have thought that tape had the possibility to ruin a lot of his personal and business relationships with certain people... his standing in the church and such. Things that he worked hard to earn. Maybe he was stuck between a rock and a hard place and didn't know what to do?

    Maybe giving into what she wanted, short term, was worth it in the long run... or so he thought.
    I doubt he thought she was capable of killing him right on up until it happened. Even during, he was probably in somewhat disbelief.

    We will never really know the whole story.
    Only 2 people do: one of them is dead and the other isn't speaking (not truthfully, at any rate).

    Quote Originally Posted by queenaevadamthng View Post
    Bottom line here is no matter what you do, what you say, you cannot reason with crazy. They know what they know and they know it all. They want what they want when they want it. It's pointless and a waste of time to argue no matter how solid the facts are. No precautions or actions can be taken other then locking crazy up with a straight jacket to prevent them from carrying out their agenda.
    Exactly. And what they don't know they will make up as they go along! With some people you are pretty much damned if you do and damned if you don't. Some don't come with right answers... at least not ones that sane people can figure out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    The fact that Alyce supposedly reviewed ALL of the info and somehow skipped over this tape of Stabby's Mom and disregarded it completely and is sitting up on that witness stand spinning lies with/for Stabby is making me very very angry
    It seems like she skipped over a LOT of things... like everything and anything that even remotely contradicted or was unflattering to the portrait of domestic abuse that she was painting Jodi Arias into being.

    Maybe if she would have investigated, FULLY, she would have seen who the real abuse victim in this case was. Maybe her conscious would have kicked in and she wouldn't be sitting up on the stand making a complete mockery out of people who actually DO suffer physically/mentally at the hands of other people. UGH!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VioletPlanet View Post
    She would have been better off if she would just have told the truth. All the money we taxpayers are shelling out for this cretan. She is insane...but in a logical way if that makes sense... She was able to live among good people in plain sight. The worst kind of insanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Alyce as an "expert" defense witness supposedly reviewed all of the interviews of her family/friends. So she just basically discarded anything that doesn't fit her theory of all men are bad and that doesn't jibe with Stabby's lies.

    Makes me sick! The damage she is doing to real victims of DV is horrendous and real.
    I can't say if ALV saw this or not, and none of us know. If she did, and it could be proven, the shit will hit the fan for her testimony. To me, that would be the lowest of the low if she saw it.

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    the abuse claims coming from the defense is pretty comical aswell

    ive been abused in my life when i was younger, and talking about it in great detail usually triggers an emotional reaction

    she usually never has a reaction when this "abuse" is brought up

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnieBelle View Post
    With all due respect, I don't get why you keep beating this dead horse. No one will ever know why Travis made the choices he did.....he is not here for any of us to question. As they say in town meetings....I make a motion to moooooooove this "did Travis invite his ultimate fate?" along. Second? Do I hear a second?? Please??!!
    Ill give you seconds, thirds, and fourths! Lol ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnieBelle View Post

    What does that emoji mean....? Not sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by coconut View Post
    What the fuck?

    "Dr. Drew I just wanted to hug that juror to let her know that everybody out there supports her." Hello!!!?? McFly!!!

    That juror almost destroyed the fucking trial after 3 months and ignored the judge's instructions!!! Crazy fool almost caused a mistrial and gave a killer grounds for appeal. How about a nice big GTFO!!!
    Exactly! More like a swift boot in the ass! Friggin diarrhea of the mouth already...

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    Quote Originally Posted by coconut View Post
    What the fuck?

    "Dr. Drew I just wanted to hug that juror to let her know that everybody out there supports her." Hello!!!?? McFly!!!

    That juror almost destroyed the fucking trial after 3 months and ignored the judge's instructions!!! Crazy fool almost caused a mistrial and gave a killer grounds for appeal. How about a nice big GTFO!!!
    Well, in all fairness, we don't know what she did that got her booted off the jury. It's possible she saw Martinez getting his photo taken, or some other thing like that. I think we need to wait and see what the reason is before we tar and feather her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coconut View Post
    What the fuck?

    "Dr. Drew I just wanted to hug that juror to let her know that everybody out there supports her." Hello!!!?? McFly!!!

    That juror almost destroyed the fucking trial after 3 months and ignored the judge's instructions!!! Crazy fool almost caused a mistrial and gave a killer grounds for appeal. How about a nice big GTFO!!!
    Gotta agree with you on that one. Such a shame. I'm sure she feels bad, but it's so important that the jurors follow the rules so that Jodi isn't able to get a mistrial based on their conduct. I hope the remaining jurors sit there like statues not giving her any hint as to what they're thinking.

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    Sorry, hit enter prior to finishing my post. Just saw this posted through FB on The State vs Jodi Arias page. Thought it would be interesting for some to read =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppym View Post
    ALV's voice was disturbing me today on the stand! She has a soft dulcet tone, and is very aware of how to inflect in public speaking! What was not so worrying was the constant "stay on track" reminders from Willmott!
    I have no doubt she is aware of the facts of Domestic Violence, but she is LESS aware of the Jodi facts and it shows!
    ^^ This ^^ this is so evident, & it will be even more so on cross, I really think ALav is clueless when it comes down to the true & accurate facts.
    Not just the bits & pieces JW is dishing out, the whole picture proves her theory that JA was the victim of dv is completely wrong. And if she is a "true" so-called unbiased expert witness, {unlike Doc Dick} she will "have" to agree to the evidence that JM is sure to point out.

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    Doesn't make sense. If it's true, then Jodi would have done anything to keep her on the jury. Maybe Tri-Color is another weirdo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freethinker View Post
    I can't say if ALV saw this or not, and none of us know. If she did, and it could be proven, the shit will hit the fan for her testimony. To me, that would be the lowest of the low if she saw it.
    Alyce said under questioning from JW that she saw/read all of the interviews of Stabby's family/friends. I don't think JM will be able to bring this particular interview up in cross but at the rate the defense is opening doors and laying out the welcome mat who knows.

    You can bet your bippy that we will see it it in mitigation if we get that far!
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    Quote Originally Posted by coconut View Post
    Here comes Katie! Just waiting to steal the mic and dominate the segment!

    "I have talked about her Dr. Drew from the very first day... "
    I despise that twat. Anyone ever take a peek-a-boo at her FB page? Yes, it's private but a couple of GEMS she posted in 2011 are visible. I stumbled across them after I was done retching whilst reading her "About Me."

    1. "This is why I oppose gay adoption" with a link to some study.
    2. A general rant about how "we" elected a socialist and what appears to be Obama-slamming in general.

    Here's a link in case anyone has the fortitude to gag it down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bete noire View Post
    Maybe he DID do everything that HE thought possible?
    I mean, what if she told him about the sex tape and held it over his head in order to keep him more compliant?
    What if there was some sort of blackmail involved, keeping him silent? I'm sure he would have thought that tape had the possibility to ruin a lot of his personal and business relationships with certain people... his standing in the church and such. Things that he worked hard to earn. Maybe he was stuck between a rock and a hard place and didn't know what to do?

    Maybe giving into what she wanted, short term, was worth it in the long run... or so he thought.
    I doubt he thought she was capable of killing him right on up until it happened. Even during, he was probably in somewhat disbelief.

    We will never really know the whole story.
    Only 2 people do: one of them is dead and the other isn't speaking (not truthfully, at any rate).



    Exactly. And what they don't know they will make up as they go along! With some people you are pretty much damned if you do and damned if you don't. Some don't come with right answers... at least not ones that sane people can figure out.



    It seems like she skipped over a LOT of things... like everything and anything that even remotely contradicted or was unflattering to the portrait of domestic abuse that she was painting Jodi Arias into being.

    Maybe if she would have investigated, FULLY, she would have seen who the real abuse victim in this case was. Maybe her conscious would have kicked in and she wouldn't be sitting up on the stand making a complete mockery out of people who actually DO suffer physically/mentally at the hands of other people. UGH!

    Hey, but come on, let us all put ourselves in Travis's shoes and be honest, how many of you would have put up with all the shitty and crazy things Jodi did to Travis that he was fully aware of.....

    He knew she was unhealthy for him in a major way....he even sacrificed his religious beliefs knowing full well he was doing this....

    Also note: he was a 180 pound 5 foot 10 man. A physically strong man. His stalker, 115 pounds 5'5 or 5'6 . How was this woman able to do what she did? Unless....Travis chose to ignore or just wouldn't seriously DEAL with her.... She set him up...how was that possible for someone who was obviously her physical superior
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