Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

[gigiann]

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Yeah she has lot of references to movies:
1. When she talked about getting book she said "its just like you see om Tv".

2. When interrogated by Flores she relates the tied to a tree "like in the movie "Me, Myself and Irene"

3. She stated she got the phrase "no jury will ever convict me". And she liked the way a female used that phrase on a TV show she watched and thought it sounded.

4. Spidy Man undies Travis alledgedly sent her. Like Carmen Diaz movie, Charlie's Angels.

I am sure there are movie references
I can't think. Thanks reading!!!!

[Metis212]

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. But then, the more I thought about it, I don't think the medical examiner mentioned any spinal injuries, right? Is anybody on here in the medical field with any thoughts if any of Travis's injuries could cause him to lose feeling to the legs? If he really said that, he was speaking at the time, so it would have to have been from one of the stab wounds (not the slashed neck or gun shot).

She may have said that he couldn't feel his legs as part of that ninja story...as an excuse to explain why he couldn't get away from the 'intruders' like she did...or why she couldn't help him get out.

So anyway, not saying you're wrong at all. Could be he really said that. Who knows, with all of Jodi's lies.

Is anybody on here in the medical field with any thoughts if any of Travis's injuries could cause him to lose feeling to the legs?

Snipped for space...that's a great question! Could blood loss lead to a numbing of the extremities due to circulation going to vital organs?

The stab to the chest which nicked the superior vena cava would cause symptoms of shock. By that I mean, the loss of blood was enough that he would have felt dizzy and nauseous and eventually he would not be able to feel his legs or arms. This happens as the body in survival mode shunts blood to vital organs. When I saw the blood spillage from the neck wound, I was surprised that the arterial blood didnt shoot very far. With that kind of neck injury, the blood should have shot out more than a foot or so. I've always believed that the chest wounds and cluster of stabs happened in the bathroom, not in the hallway. As he attempted to get down the hall, he may have bumped up onto the walls smearing blood from his injuries. He would have been able to talk if the chest wounds were first. f the gunshot was first, I don't think he would have been capable of much speech because it disrupted the frontal lobe which is involved in executive functioning, especially high level decision-making. After the neck injury which severed his larynx below the vocal cords there would be no speech.

Hope that helps.

[bryanwasdrunk]

RE: Mormon version of a player: Would a mormon version of a player send overtly sexual emails, grab a woman's butt in public, aggressively try and make-out with a woman he was newly dating? By new, I mean less than a year. How long did he date Lisa? If a man who I just started dating or dated for a few months did all of the above, I would find that completely inappropriate. RE: Naive viewpoint: I disagree. If she thought it was "overly-aggressive" then, it was. She is entitled to her feelings. They are valid.

Bah.

Jodi slashed Lisa Andrews tires, broke into her home, and sent her the "whoredom" email. Lisa also made it very clear that she didn't feel Travis was any kind of abuser or threatening in any way.

[ImBatman!]

Bah.

Jodi slashed Lisa Andrews tires, broke into her home, and sent her the "whoredom" email. Lisa also made it very clear that she didn't feel Travis was any kind of abuser or threatening in any way.

I agree with you! Jodi even used the term "whoredom" on the stand!

[Angiebla]

Does anyone else think she slit his throat so that he wouldn't scream out for help-since his roommates could possibly be home any minute?

[Peace Corpse]

Bah.

Jodi slashed Lisa Andrews tires, broke into her home, and sent her the "whoredom" email. Lisa also made it very clear that she didn't feel Travis was any kind of abuser or threatening in any way.

Yes Jodi did. Travis knew Jodi was stalking him and his dates/girlfriends and yet he kept up a sexual relationship with her? This is madness/addictive behavior, I never said Lisa said Travis was abusing her. He was not. Please re-read my posts objectively if at all possible. We will have to agree to disagree. Move on....

[bete noire]

I think it's another Arias watches too many movies bullshit story. A man that can't feel his legs doesn't make it 11 feet down a hallway with blood smears 3 feet up the wall. He was obviously stumbling and crawling. IMO

Not necessarily.
I know from personal experience that when my brother was stabbed (with the damned screwdriver) he said he couldn't feel his legs also, at the time... but, he still managed to crawl/stumble thru two rooms to the front door to call for help. When we went to his apartment the next day to get a few things and finally saw all the blood... same thing, it was pretty much everywhere, even up the walls and on some furniture.

Not saying it's true, just that it could be, ya know?
ya never know what is true or not when it is coming out of that broad's mouth.


Hopefully that wasn't something he experienced, tho. But ya never know with the things that come out of HER crazy mouth.

Did anyone notice in the interrogation tapes that Jodi is writing with her right hand?

I'm pretty sure she is ambidextrous.
I have definitely seen her writing/doodling with both in court.

Just got smited for my location. Holy hell, this is one BITCHY thread!!

Ok, someone needs some happy pills. I was smited for saying the above quote. The comment on the smite was 'Your face started it.' I certainly did not start the ninja term. But, if you want to think I did and want to be mad at me, okay. I have not been nasty toward anyone on this forum...maybe you're confusing me with someone else? Anyway, the smite makes no sense to me. Whatever. lol.

Wow, and I thought the one I got for suggesting maybe Travis might have said he didn't feel his legs was uncalled for, dang.
(this will prolly get smited, too)

Least now I know I'm not the only one, cuz that was weird.

Bah.

Jodi slashed Lisa Andrews tires, broke into her home, and sent her the "whoredom" email. Lisa also made it very clear that she didn't feel Travis was any kind of abuser or threatening in any way.

Agree.
He may have gone a little fast for her, at times, but unless she says no - and stops him - how is he supposed to know where her boundaries are? And when asked to stop - he did. Nothing that scream he was abusive/threatening in any way. Maybe a little over eager with her, but that's about it.

[Peace Corpse]

The stab to the chest which nicked the superior vena cava would cause symptoms of shock. By that I mean, the loss of blood was enough that he would have felt dizzy and nauseous and eventually he would not be able to feel his legs or arms. This happens as the body in survival mode shunts blood to vital organs. When I saw the blood spillage from the neck wound, I was surprised that the arterial blood didnt shoot very far. With that kind of neck injury, the blood should have shot out more than a foot or so. I've always believed that the chest wounds and cluster of stabs happened in the bathroom, not in the hallway. As he attempted to get down the hall, he may have bumped up onto the walls smearing blood from his injuries. He would have been able to talk if the chest wounds were first. f the gunshot was first, I don't think he would have been capable of much speech because it disrupted the frontal lobe which is involved in executive functioning, especially high level decision-making. After the neck injury which severed his larynx below the vocal cords there would be no speech.

Hope that helps.

I think Travis was on his stomach when she cut his throat. She pulled his head back and....one clean deep swipe with maximum force .This explains the darker pool of blood on the carpet and not a great deal of upward or outward blood splatter. What was the expression on this monster's face. I get chills thinking about it.

[bete noire]

I think Travis was on his stomach when she cut his throat. She pulled his head back and....one clean deep swipe with maximum force .This explains the darker pool of blood on the carpet and not a great deal of upward or outward blood splatter. What was the expression on this monster's face. I get chills thinking about it.

Hopefully that was the case - him being on his stomach - and he didn't have to see her crazy-face at all. Or, maybe he was unconscious by then... or in shock and not fully aware. One can hope, anyway.

[Peace Corpse]

Does anyone else think she slit his throat so that he wouldn't scream out for help-since his roommates could possibly be home any minute?

Roommates were not home so....no. She did it...because she hated him, because she could not control him anymore. He was taking Mimi to Cancun and not her. A slit to the throat is usually always fatal.

[Morticia]

I'm wondering if this very public and media-saturated trial will serve as a cautionary tale to future trials when considering filming live from the courtroom. Something's wrong when HLN reporters get called to the stand. While Nurmi is at fault for this, the risk of this in-depth coverage can be undermining to the judicial process. The pressure must be enormous for all parties involved. I'm just not sure we should have the right as the public to be privy to everything.

[Peace Corpse]

Hopefully that was the case - him being on his stomach - and he didn't have to see her crazy-face at all. Or, maybe he was unconscious by then... or in shock and not fully aware. One can hope, anyway.

I hope he was already dead.... If not, he had no idea this brutal act was coming and when it did....one can only hope he was so numb by all the previous attacks especially to his back/spinal area, that he didn't feel a thing.... We can never know. What we do know is that this vital human-being saw and felt a type of pain and terror that no one should ever have to feel.

[eliqueang]

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Yeah she has lot of references to movies:
1. When she talked about getting book she said "its just like you see om Tv".

2. When interrogated by Flores she relates the tied to a tree "like in the movie "Me, Myself and Irene"

3. She stated she got the phrase "no jury will ever convict me". And she liked the way a female used that phrase on a TV show she watched and thought it sounded.

4. Spidy Man undies Travis alledgedly sent her. Like Carmen Diaz movie, Charlie's Angels.

I am sure there are movie references
I can't think. Thanks reading!!!!

She mentioned something in a will ferrell movie but now i can't remember what it was!! I only know this cause i referenced it on twitter

[PunkerDuckie]

Just marking.

[Metis212]

I think Travis was on his stomach when she cut his throat. She pulled his head back and....one clean deep swipe with maximum force .This explains the darker pool of blood on the carpet and not a great deal of upward or outward blood splatter. What was the expression on this monster's face. I get chills thinking about it.

arterial blood from the carotid could have shot blood as far as the bed in pulsating spurts. it would shot out with each heartbeat. And as a person goes further in shock, the heart beats faster. It is unknown whether he was on his stomach or his knees. The blood from the jugular vein would pool.

[ImBatman!]

There are plenty of cases that don't reach this level of media attention that may be just as horrendous. I just read an article on a man who raped and had babies by all FIVE of his daughters beginning when they turned 8, he has been on trial for about two years for two of the rapes. This story has not drawn near the media attention this case has. And I think it is because Jodi is a petite at one time, beautiful female. I think we as the public have more of an interest in women that commit these types of crimes.....

[Peace Corpse]

arterial blood from the carotid could have shot blood as far as the bed in pulsating spurts. it would shot out with each heartbeat. And as a person goes further in shock, the heart beats faster. It is unknown whether he was on his stomach or his knees. The blood from the jugular vein would pool.

Wouldn't the splatter depend on how high she held his head up, neck bare. I believe he was on his stomach because that dark pool of blood on the carpet is a an even puddle...circular. How exposed to space must one's neck be to produce an outward stream?

[ImBatman!]

There are plenty of cases that don't reach this level of media attention that may be just as horrendous. I just read an article on a man who raped and had babies by all FIVE of his daughters beginning when they turned 8, he has been on trial for about two years for two of the rapes. This story has not drawn near the media attention this case has. And I think it is because Jodi is a petite at one time, beautiful female. I think we as the public have more of an interest in women that commit these types of crimes.....

This post was in reference to Morticia's post ^ I forgot to quote!

[hatchan]

Here is a question for my fellow Jodiholics. How did Jodi and Travis decide they were a couple?

Jodi decided it. Travis likely had a different opinion. I don't think I've heard anyone else give creedance to them being a legitimate couple...remember, she did not even live in Mesa when they were "dating". I think that fueled stabby's rage. in her mind, they had a serious relationship. Travis may have been deeply involved but none of his friends recognized it as a "relationship".....esp, by morman standards. They just saw her as a creepy girl that knew (and was obsessed with) Travis and he didn't want them to believe anything to the contrary. Have his cake and eat her too....

[ImBatman!]

Jodi decided it. Travis likely had a different opinion. I don't think I've heard anyone else give creedance to them being a legitimate couple...remember, she did not even live in Mesa when they were "dating". I think that fueled stabby's rage. in her mind, they had a serious relationship. Travis may have been deeply involved but none of his friends recognized it as a "relationship".....esp, by morman standards. They just saw her as a creepy girl that knew (and was obsessed with) Travis and he didn't want them to believe anything to the contrary. Have his cake and eat her too....

I have to agree... and they may have had a relationship on some level. I do think Jodi thought more of the level than Travis did. He seemed to have feelings for her at the beginning, not so much towards the end of the what? 5 months. five months in the time line does not a serious relationship make IMO.

[marycontrary]

She mentioned something in a will ferrell movie but now i can't remember what it was!! I only know this cause i referenced it on twitter

Her facebook comment about man boobs that Travis said made her sound like a total whore. Not sure what the movie was though. I think she just said Will Ferrell movie.

I found it. It's anchorman reference and check this out....I think Travis was maybe taking the joke further?

The quote from the movie: Veronica: "You have man boobs." Ron: "You've got a dirty whorish mouth. That's what you have."

[bermstalker]

Did anyone notice in the interrogation tapes that Jodi is writing with her right hand?

Perhaps, Travis didn't do anything to piss off Jodi. She writes in her journal a cryptic message about growing yearnings she can no longer ignore. She sounds like Dexter here. Maybe she has been itching to kill someone and Travis was handy and easy to get into a vulnerable position.

I think Jodi hated Travis, and she wanted to kill him. Who knows.. maybe she always wondered what it would be like to kill somebody!

Here is a question for my fellow Jodiholics. How did Jodi and Travis decide they were a couple?

I don't think Travis every thought of Jodi as his girlfriend. I think he was always upfront with her about her just being a 'friend with benefits' to him.

I'm wondering if this very public and media-saturated trial will serve as a cautionary tale to future trials when considering filming live from the courtroom. Something's wrong when HLN reporters get called to the stand. While Nurmi is at fault for this, the risk of this in-depth coverage can be undermining to the judicial process. The pressure must be enormous for all parties involved. I'm just not sure we should have the right as the public to be privy to everything.

This trial won't stop the media, nor will it stop the media from filming other trials. Nurmi is just throwing stuff against the wall to get anything to stick. They will keep doing it until the very end. This jury mess is just another small part of the BS. The most that will happen-juror 5 will be dismissed.

Just wanted to post some of the links for the case. Court starts at 9:30am
Links for live feeds.
http://www.azfamily.com/home/Watch-L...185415702.html
http://wildabouttrial.com/videos/jod...ve-stream.html
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/20...al-livestream/

Mobile apps for live stream
http://q.belo.com/shared/mobappdir/i...mily&wrapper=y

Watch the trial on you mobile device
? To watch live video of the Arias trial on your iPhone or iPad, just download the appropriate free app from iTunes. Once the app is installed, just scroll down to the Live Video tile. Tap it to start the stream.
? To watch on Android devices, download the free Ustream app from Google Play. In the Ustream app, click the Search button. Search for azfamily. Tap the the 3TV thumbnail and then click play.

Just a FYI-There are two screen in AZ family for watching it live. You have this link that shows twitter comments during the trial
http://www.azfamily.com/home/Watch-L...185415702.html
You also have the option of scrolling down the page to get the bigger screen. You also have this other screen on AZ family. Usually if the one above gets overloaded, this one works great.
http://www.azcentral.com/community/m...ive-video.html

Itunes app
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wild...530043712?mt=8

A collection of links in this case (facebooks, videos, news sites, pictures, etc..)
https://sites.google.com/site/jodiariastrial/

Photos of the crime scene
http://s193.beta.photobucket.com/use...is%20Alexander
Evidence shown in court
http://www.hlntv.com/slideshow/2013/...ysteries-day-4
Graphic Crime Scene photos and body photos *Warning, these are graphic
http://s1321.beta.photobucket.com/us...y/Body?src=wap

Blog of the trial. Has recaps for everyday. Just click the calendar to the side for the date you want.
http://callsforjustice.wordpress.com/
Or my blog.
http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/

The youtube account of the guy that post the trial with no sidebars
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1xa1oSemBOgyops5B8eRLw

There?s also a great youtube video of several different theories posted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&h...lFc&nomobile=1

Youtube account that posts the trial videos. User Tawnidilly has these posted pretty fast. She does an amazing job at these.
http://www.youtube.com/user/tawnidilly?feature=watch

Funny youtubes of Jodi
http://www.youtube.com/user/MsTabularasa?feature=watch

[eliqueang]

Has it been mentioned in court yet about the stab wounds on his BACK? I would think JM would bring it up but i don't remember hearing it.

[jingles]

WOW! Hope the Jury picked up on this because I didn't piece this together at the time of testimony! Good find!

Great synopsis! I have always believed that the returning of the remote was one of the most damning pieces of evidence linking her to the faux break in/burglary at her grandparents home, the stealing of the gun/proving premeditation. NO reason on earth a remote belonging to Darryl would find its way into her car at 7am in the morning, after a very brief, purposeful visit (pick up the gas cans), never mind that the selfish JA would never bother to go back and return it if it had. She had a mission to fulfill.

Funny how she was so intent on saving money, except when she wasn't. She testified that she didn't buy her own gas cans because they were too expensive (11.00???), that she borrowed the cans in order to buy "cheap" gas in Utah/Nevada, rather than fill up in CA where the price is so much higher, yet that is exactly what she did...fill up in CA. Seems she had enough discretionary funds to buy a few pricey Starbucks designer drinks, AND get her nails done, all with "CA gas." Pfft.



ETA:

I'm wondering if this very public and media-saturated trial will serve as a cautionary tale to future trials when considering filming live from the courtroom. Something's wrong when HLN reporters get called to the stand. While Nurmi is at fault for this, the risk of this in-depth coverage can be undermining to the judicial process. The pressure must be enormous for all parties involved. I'm just not sure we should have the right as the public to be privy to everything.

Agreed, though IMO it was inevitable that something like this would happen with the trial dragging along endlessly as it has, with the jury unsequestered. Had the jury been sequestered, no way the judge would not have done more to shut down the defense team's never ending malingering, their stall tactics, would not have done more to speed things up.

[ImBatman!]

I have not read much on AZ trial procedure. Why was the jury not sequestered?