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    Okay, so I watched all 17 videos and I am consumed with the fact that Stabby is not crazy or mental, she is a cold blooded killer with no remorse. Just the ease of how she formulates the story about the ninjas. Everything that she does is calculated. Too bad for her, that she wasn't as calculated in the murder of Travis and left so much evidence behind.


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    I find it hilarious that YOU are acting all high and mighty toward us when you're posting on here just like anyone else and in addition, defending a murderer. A child murderer, at that. Go fuck a Popsicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post

    She knew about Mimi, but she didn't know that Mimi didn't return TA's feelings until AFTER she killed TA. The Bishop told her at TA's memorial.
    Right, but in the interrogation tapes (Tape 2 thanks to Freethinker, about 10 min in) she also said that she didn't know Mimi was going to Cancun until his memorial service. So, according to her in the interrogation tapes, she finds out both things at the memorial service. Too bad the jury can't see the entire tapes.

    Speaking of the interrogation tapes, does anyone else's cut off about half way through for an ad? So annoying.
    "so he ejaculated on your face and threw you some candy?"

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    I just finished Interrogation Video #14. My count for how many times she asked to see the pictures of his dead body is at 7.

    Now, I did doze off a bit during the female detectives droning voice...so I might have missed something?

    "Satisfaction of ones curiosity is one of the greatest sources of happiness in life" Linus Pauling

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    Quote Originally Posted by coconut View Post
    Maybe you've seen her inserting herself into the trial in the gallery? Maybe you've seen her on TV every night talking (more like cheerleading) about the trial. How about on Facebook posting pictures? Surely you've seen her pictures with Juan Martinez in hero worship mode, now that it has become controversial.

    She also has a radio talk show of some sort and a soon-to-be-aired episode of The Ricki Lake Show (OMG!)

    A regular lil Nancy Grace wannabe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by faq_q View Post
    Thought I read somewhere that when Stabby was arrested, she had some knives and a 9mm in her car? Is that accurate?
    Quote Originally Posted by faq_q View Post
    Oh, so it was in the rental she used to go to Mesa? No matter what I know abut this trial, I'm finding out that I don't know enough and I have been watching it since day one.
    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post
    Well, I definitely think they were into role playing and being kinky. Travis talks about pounding it in her ass-and he talks about how he loved doing it before.

    Can I say for sure they were doing anal? No. But I believe it's true.

    Now did it happen right after he baptized her? IDK. One thing about Jodi- she says a story, but her story never matches up with text or diary entries or other events that were going on that day. Never.
    When Jodi was arrested, she had already loaded up another rental car and the 9mm was hidden somewhere inside.
    Here is a video about the trip in June 08, complete with maps and gas use estimates. I don't agree with everything he says, but he does have some good info. He also gives a 4 page timeline, that Berm might like to compare to hers. Make sure to watch the second part as well, and like it if you have a You Tube account.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoQoF-UE6I8

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    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    She also has a radio talk show of some sort and a soon-to-be-aired episode of The Ricki Lake Show (OMG!)

    A regular lil Nancy Grace wannabe...
    she is not gonna be on ricki lake, its the other katy, rikki is doing a show about her sisters murder

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShellJett View Post
    9mm found in rental car after it was returned. Knives found in box of books. Ammo for 9mm also found. Stabby said she bought gun to commit suicide, and another time said she bought it for protection because she was going on a camping trip with guys she didn't know.


    Does anyone know if this behavior (buying a gun or carrying knives) fit with PTSD caused after using a gun and knife in a violent attack?

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    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    A regular lil Nancy Grace wannabe...
    What if her (and other people's) behavior with The Prosecutor caused an appeal or a mistrial? That would be awful for everyone.

    I don't think The Nurmi could handle a rerun.

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    I realized something during the forced break. I was sorting some sewing supplies, and came across some "decorative rope" (the same kind Stabby says they used for their bondage games on June 4th). That stuff is a pain in the ass to work with, in part because it is very slippery, which would make it problematic for bondage. But even more important, it unravels like a mofo within moments of cutting it. Which is why when you buy it, they measure it out, then put a piece of masking tape around it at the spot to be cut, then cut across the tape wrap, leaving tape on the end of the piece you are buying and also on the length that stays on the reel. If you cut this stuff and skip the tape, the whole thing will untwist itself and unravel very quickly.

    But Stabby never mentioned any tape. She just says they cut it with the big knife from the kitchen. Stabby does not say "and then it all unraveled, and it made working with it really difficult". But it would have. Really. No way around that without tape.

    I realize this is a small detail, but I actually think it proves the whole rope story is made up.

    Were you crying when you were stabbing him? --SuperJuan Martinez
    Nobody believes a word out of your mouth. Why do you keep talking? -- ABC Interviewer to JA

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    I work with this type of rope/piping /trim everyday.If you cut it and tie a simple square knot it will fray to the knot and stop.This wasn't a dominatric type of scene it was a fun light hearted yea oh I'm tied up and can get out scene.He didn't hog tie her...... if he tied her at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Brillig View Post
    I realized something during the forced break. I was sorting some sewing supplies, and came across some "decorative rope" (the same kind Stabby says they used for their bondage games on June 4th). That stuff is a pain in the ass to work with, in part because it is very slippery, which would make it problematic for bondage. But even more important, it unravels like a mofo within moments of cutting it. Which is why when you buy it, they measure it out, then put a piece of masking tape around it at the spot to be cut, then cut across the tape wrap, leaving tape on the end of the piece you are buying and also on the length that stays on the reel. If you cut this stuff and skip the tape, the whole thing will untwist itself and unravel very quickly.

    But Stabby never mentioned any tape. She just says they cut it with the big knife from the kitchen. Stabby does not say "and then it all unraveled, and it made working with it really difficult". But it would have. Really. No way around that without tape.

    I realize this is a small detail, but I actually think it proves the whole rope story is made up.

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    Would Willmont and Nurmi be her council if there was a mistrial called or would that be their moment to opt out?
    Quote Originally Posted by coconut View Post
    What if her (and other people's) behavior with The Prosecutor caused an appeal or a mistrial? That would be awful for everyone.

    I don't think The Nurmi could handle a rerun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppy213 View Post
    I just finished Interrogation Video #14. My count for how many times she asked to see the pictures of his dead body is at 7.

    Now, I did doze off a bit during the female detectives droning voice...so I might have missed something?
    I just got to 14 and said the hell with it. I skipped 2 others where she was giving the detective the cold shoulder. I don't know why they were walking on eggs questioning her. I get it to a point, but she was in full control. I kept saying "SAY SOMETHING"!

    I think Katie will land a job on TV of some sorts. You need to remember about her dress code. She knows the camera will be on her, she has the gift to talk, and when you think about it, she's actually interviewing for a job on TV with the exposure she's getting. So, like any prestigeous job, you must dress the part for an interview.

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    Can we use the Doc's advice about hot and cold water to waterboard this chick till we get the truth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    she is not gonna be on ricki lake, its the other katy, rikki is doing a show about her sisters murder
    Damn, I keep forgetting there are two Katies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by coconut View Post
    Why would Travis be so persistent to invite a woman who said she had no spark with him? I have been wondering about that. I wouldn't be comfortable on a work trip with a platonic lady friend who turned me down so plainly, if I still had love interest. Was Travis the player trying to woo Mimi with this fancy trip and his big important company?
    I think Travis knew Mimi led the type of spiritual life that he aspired to, and that he wanted in a wife. He was dating "above himself spiritually", at least at that time. Travis may have quizzed her about what she didn't see in him that she wanted in a mate. Or he may have asked Mimi for her input on how to become a Mormon man like that. Or perhaps he just wanted to experience some time with a good Mormon girl. We'll never know, because he never got to go on that trip.

    Also in my world, at least, some people I know have fallen in love & married after a few first ho-hum dates.

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    Some things I've learned -- from an adoptive daughter who was baptized Mormon ~5 years ago -- to understand about Mormans & dating generally: they tend to quickly decide if someone is right for them or not, if you're moving to 5 or six one-on-one dates decision time is here, holding hands a lot & kissing pretty much means you are exclusive, once exclusive engagement should be around the corner as adult Mormons are to date with an eye on marriage. It is generally suggested you do no passionate kissing, no horizontal kissing, no "grinding, no touching of your partner's sacred parts, etc. Pretty sure each breaks the law of chastity. As you may guess, Mormon couples tend to get engaged and married much more quickly than many of us experience.

    Now these are things I've learned through her dating experience and what has been relayed to me -- I in no way mean to offend or misrepresent Mormons or their doctrine. It's just generally and very briefly what I've come to know from her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loonywop View Post
    I work with this type of rope/piping /trim everyday.If you cut it and tie a simple square knot it will fray to the knot and stop.This wasn't a dominatric type of scene it was a fun light hearted yea oh I'm tied up and can get out scene.He didn't hog tie her...... if he tied her at all.
    In my experience, it does not like to stay tied, even in a square knot, because it is so slippery. But frankly, even if that was enough to reduce the fraying, it seems like the sort of detail Stabby would have mentioned, if there really was a rope. Think about the level of detail she adds to her descriptions... enough for her to drone on for 19 days. She even said what color the rope was (green and gold). But she didn't bother saying that the rope frayed badly when cut, and they had to do something to try and alleviate the fraying? That doesn't sound like Stabby to me.

    Were you crying when you were stabbing him? --SuperJuan Martinez
    Nobody believes a word out of your mouth. Why do you keep talking? -- ABC Interviewer to JA

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    Can somebody please tell me if they hear her give a little chuckle at about 32:00 then say "Still beat you....brat" ????
    http://youtu.be/u5lGJ72SQBM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jillee View Post
    Can somebody please tell me if they hear her give a little chuckle at about 32:00 then say "Still beat you....brat" ????
    http://youtu.be/u5lGJ72SQBM
    yes! it is sooo creepy - do u think its travis or flores?

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    I thought she said "I'm still here you brat"
    Quote Originally Posted by Jillee View Post
    Can somebody please tell me if they hear her give a little chuckle at about 32:00 then say "Still beat you....brat" ????
    http://youtu.be/u5lGJ72SQBM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    yes! it is sooo creepy - do u think its travis or flores?
    Quote Originally Posted by loonywop View Post
    I thought she said "I'm still here you brat"
    Definitely meant towards Travis. She wouldn't be calling Flores a brat. That's the most honest thing she said throughout all of the tapes!

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    P.S.-Has anyone else given a reach-around to a spider-monkey whilst reciting the pledge of allegiance, or is that fairly uncommon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by loonywop View Post
    I thought she said "I'm still here you brat"
    This sounds closest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freethinker View Post
    This sounds closest.
    Sound to me like: "still beat you...brat" or "still beat me...brat." Anybody listen with great headphones?

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    Flores is a no-bullshit kind of guy. He saw right through the whole situation with their relationship. Part 2 of the interrogation really breaks it down, and explodes the Travis = Goldenboy myth.

    @ 3:58 "Cause he can't commit - Travis was what you call a player"

    "He kinds of pulls girls in but he can't make a commitment. Portrays himself to be a certain way, but he's really not.

    "He portrays himself to have a lot of money but he doesn't."



    How about this nugget @ 10:50 "Mimi is of a certain caliber with her spirituality and Travis was just in a different place."

    The more I listen to these tapes the more I freak out about that little Mormon community of gossip and control. You can just ask a Bishop to tell you the private confessions of another church member? Certain church members who look at themselves as powerful "den mothers" (I won't name any names) get to tell people who they can date, what is good for them, all under the threat of business relationships? Talk about an unhealthy environment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jillee View Post
    Can somebody please tell me if they hear her give a little chuckle at about 32:00 then say "Still beat you....brat" ????
    http://youtu.be/u5lGJ72SQBM
    I agree. It sounds like...*giggle.." Still beat you....brat" *giggle

    "Satisfaction of ones curiosity is one of the greatest sources of happiness in life" Linus Pauling

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    I totally tuned the "brat" part out the first time around. Caught it the second time. Good grief! I'm laboring over these tapes like my life depended on it. Nearly lost my marbles the second go around- totally worth it tho! Pretty much sums everything up for me. Through all that BS, one tiny sliver of truth.

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