same here - all i am getting from this is committing murder is stressfulOriginally Posted by beli
same here - all i am getting from this is committing murder is stressful
Don't let JA see this, it will be her new defense. TA killed himself because she wouldn't shut up!!Here is how this trial makes me feel (especially when Jodi or her minions are on the stand):
And Tricky Dicky almost managed it a couple times (but SuperJuan objected in time)
Exactly. They plan to add that new disorder to the next DSM.
Considering that he is hurting Stabby rather than helping her, I agree.I hope this dingbat JW keeps him up there for days!he's a blabber mouth and JW is too stupid to realize when she should just get her own bad witness off the damn stand.
He appears to have less practice keeping his lies straight than Stabby does.
Indeed. He IS trying to excuse Stabby out of absolutely everything. Which is not what an expert professional evaluator is supposed to do. It is also not what someone unbiased does. It just takes away from whatever credibility he might have had.
Were you crying when you were stabbing him? --SuperJuan Martinez
Nobody believes a word out of your mouth. Why do you keep talking? -- ABC Interviewer to JA
The meteor analogy is a good metaphor for circumstantial evidence.
"Of all the emotions, the most dangerous emotion is love." P.D James
"Do you not realize, my son, with how little wisdom this world is run?" Baron von Oxenstiema"
Right!
Which is fucking heartbreaking to think his last moments were spent with that monster!
Ugh. Not the crater!
Where's a good fog when you need one...
LOL!!!!
OMFG !!! The Crater again !!! WhoTheF***Cares!!
Get off the stand for crying out loud
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Homicidal defense, beat the jury over the head and actually believe you can pound your bullchit in.I can't take this anymore. For a supposed DP expert Wilmott is a fucking idiot repeating this shit all over again. She's losing the jury and doesn't even seem to realise. SHUT THE FUCK UP.
"Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are" --- Benjamin Franklin
Wow, I'm good! It stopped! Best birthday present ever!!!!!
This is fucking priceless. Thank you.
Will JM get a crack at him today?? I am waiting for him to start to crack his head again. He looks like Humpty Dumpty on a wall, to me.
Exactly!
Want to bet she goes to 4:30?
Did Disastrous Dick just say that "a professional SHOULD KNOW WHEN TO STOP ? Is he career counseling Willmott now?
Jodi has her puppies on full display today! She's hoping and wishing.
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After lunch
The Dr is still on the stand. Still answering jury questions.
73. Low self esteem is quite normal? Not normal but it?s common
74. How did the test results go towards the PTSD? She met the list
75. If a population lied, couldn't it be called a loophole? Yes, if the population lied
76. Do you assume people answer truthfully? Yes
77. Couldn?t a hypothesis made early skew the results? Yes, if you are not trained
78. Could that hypothesis determine how a tester reads results? We constantly change. It?s fluid.
79. DA article- small number? It?s the Transit Global Anmesia
80. Flight fight, was there ever any discussing on why Jodi did not flee the bedroom? She was trying to protect herself
81. Do you normally fill out the questionnaire? Sometimes
82. Are you worried about errors? No
83. How can the test if somebody is lying if the person stays consistent in their lies? It would be hard. The answers are not that important
84. Repeated abuse from Travis-Wasn?t she still telling the ninjas story at this time? She told me about the abuse early on.
85. Timeframe of Question 16-21 all lies? Yes
86. The answers are based on a fake story? Yes
87. Messes up Jodi?s story? Yes
88. Don?t the lies mess up the test? I wouldn?t work with them if they were lying
89. Not being able to remember the event. Considering she killed Travis, doesn?t this seem inconsistent? She doesn?t remember
90. Can a person commit a murder and still suffer a stress? It?s possible, but less probable
91.even if intentional, would the event still consider stressful? It?s possible, not probable
92. Why would she run into the closet and corner herself if she was in fight flight mode? It had two doors
93. Flight or fight- wouldn?t someone want to get away from the danger? You would flight, then the next step would be to fight.
94. Would they want help from someone? I suppose
95. Are you able to state Jodi had either PTSD or any other before June 4? IDK
96. If you plan to kill and do, versus accidently, can you suffer the stress? Lower likely hood of an accident versus if you were planning to kill someone. (WTF)
97. Is it possible Jodi didn?t write negative things about Travis b/c there was nothing to write? Not possible after reading the evidence.
98. Feeling suppressing for so long/ would it be a natural reaction when the dam breaks? Yes
99. If something is planned, is amnesia more or less likely to occur? More
100. How do you explain Jodi cleaning up the crime scene? It was planned badly
101. Retesting for PTSD. Why didn?t you? There is nothing that says he has to (after he says JM was harsh on him)
102. Is there anything in the book you gave Jodi that would mess up test results? No
103. How do you know Jodi tried to please Travis, when you never talked to Travis? I read all the stuff
104. How do you know she didn?t kill Travis out of jealousy? I read all the stuff
105. Acute Stress is the only thing that showed up ? Only in the section that describes PTSD
106. Jodi?s symptoms did not appear before June 4th? She did tell Dr that she may have had some of those symptoms.
Def followup
Symptoms of Jodi-shaking and tremors. Jodi was afraid of Travis.
Jealousy and how can Dr. be sure there was no jealousy? Dr. listened to a tape recording. They talked about him going to Cancun and Jodi never expressed she was jealous or mad.
Diary-Jodi did mention they were moving on. The Dr also reviewed text and there was no jealousy.
Thrown by JM during testimony about the PTSD and retaking the test-Dr has no concerns about the test. (Holy cow. This dude drives me crazy. I would rather listen to Creepy Gus)
Dr?s make a hypothesis but doesn?t give the test right away. He wants to refine his (speculating) hypothesis.
Approach Judge
Does your experience come into play? Absolutely. I?m awesome (he didn?t say that, but in my mind-he did)
When a person is in fight or flight, or they able to make decisions? He brings up animals. Brains don?t function properly. Jodi wanted to put distance between her and Travis on June 4th. Jodi?s fucked up brain excuses everything (or at least that?s what I?m getting from this Dr.) It?s survival.
Is it rational for a person to leave evidence at a crime scene? NO.
Lies- Have you had to kick people out because they lied? Only a few kids. (I bet this guy loves shock treatments)
Approach Judge
He didn?t want to push Jodi when she was telling the ninja story. On her own, she changed the story. Dr. believes Jodi was just protecting herself from the trauma. (She must have realized death was on the table) Dr. states again- it was NOT therapy, but if it was, it would have been a breakthrough.
Jodi was a witness to a murder-that?s why there was a trauma.
Now he?s talking about the normal group and sample group. Dr. says the people that develop these tests are very smart. The scales- looking for liars. It?s like a paper lie detector test. (So what do I believe? A paper test or my own ears?)
Low self esteem-not uncommon. He determined fast that Jodi had low self esteem. The Dr. has just admitted that when Jodi talked to ex boyfriends or girlfriends like Bianca-that was somewhat assertive.
The Dr. just called Jodi, Mrs Alexander and had to correct it. The Dr. says Jodi doesn?t love herself.
Jodi would be in fear when Travis wouldn?t call her for several days. He would get mad if she tried to stand up for herself and not call her. Travis would dominate and control her with withholding his love.
The book- Jodi has been just the Dr?s client and nothing else.
(A break for a few minutes. I had company.)
Some of the aspects of this case were not important. He says Jodi has PTSD. The Dr. said he made a mistake with his paperwork, but he corrected it.
The Hoover Dam is when her memory started to come back. He says Jodi was hyperventilating. The Dr says Jodi wouldn?t remember anything at the scene-maybe a flash here and there. (This Dr. is whacked)
Now the Dr. says she suffers from amnesia. The Dr called the crime scene a frenzy and she had the strength to pull him.
Recess (A jury member had something wrong with their headphones)
Just got home and missed everything damn it, shit.
And Tricky Dicky almost managed it a couple times (but SuperJuan objected in time)
Exactly. They plan to add that new disorder to the next DSM.
Considering that he is hurting Stabby rather than helping her, I agree.
He appears to have less practice keeping his lies straight than Stabby does.
Indeed. He IS trying to excuse Stabby out of absolutely everything. Which is not what an expert professional evaluator is supposed to do. It is also not what someone unbiased does. It just takes away from whatever credibility he might have had.
I love this post!
OH PRAISE JEBUS for that Juror!! Too bad he didn't say, "Excuse me your honor, could you tell Doc Dick to stop?! We just can't take anymore bullshit, Juror #3 is shaking like a Chihuahua. Juror #7 just stabbed himself in the ear. Juror #11 is mumbling "fucking kill you bitch" under his breath. Please, for the love of god, make it stop!"
Is it just a break, or over for the day? Just got home and thought I had a good 30 mins left of the trial...
Exactly, but Doc Dick is not a professional!!!!!
Jodi: "COME TO ME, SLAVE."
Mitigation Lady: (scurries to Jodi) "Yes, Mistress, what do you desire?"
(end scene)
Did a juror just ask for the afternoon recess?
Jodi has her puppies on full display today! She's hoping and wishing.
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After lunch
The Dr is still on the stand. Still answering jury questions.
73. Low self esteem is quite normal? Not normal but it?s common
74. How did the test results go towards the PTSD? She met the list
75. If a population lied, couldn't it be called a loophole? Yes, if the population lied
76. Do you assume people answer truthfully? Yes
77. Couldn?t a hypothesis made early skew the results? Yes, if you are not trained
78. Could that hypothesis determine how a tester reads results? We constantly change. It?s fluid.
79. DA article- small number? It?s the Transit Global Anmesia
80. Flight fight, was there ever any discussing on why Jodi did not flee the bedroom? She was trying to protect herself
81. Do you normally fill out the questionnaire? Sometimes
82. Are you worried about errors? No
83. How can the test if somebody is lying if the person stays consistent in their lies? It would be hard. The answers are not that important
84. Repeated abuse from Travis-Wasn?t she still telling the ninjas story at this time? She told me about the abuse early on.
85. Timeframe of Question 16-21 all lies? Yes
86. The answers are based on a fake story? Yes
87. Messes up Jodi?s story? Yes
88. Don?t the lies mess up the test? I wouldn?t work with them if they were lying
89. Not being able to remember the event. Considering she killed Travis, doesn?t this seem inconsistent? She doesn?t remember
90. Can a person commit a murder and still suffer a stress? It?s possible, but less probable
91.even if intentional, would the event still consider stressful? It?s possible, not probable
92. Why would she run into the closet and corner herself if she was in fight flight mode? It had two doors
93. Flight or fight- wouldn?t someone want to get away from the danger? You would flight, then the next step would be to fight.
94. Would they want help from someone? I suppose
95. Are you able to state Jodi had either PTSD or any other before June 4? IDK
96. If you plan to kill and do, versus accidently, can you suffer the stress? Lower likely hood of an accident versus if you were planning to kill someone. (WTF)
97. Is it possible Jodi didn?t write negative things about Travis b/c there was nothing to write? Not possible after reading the evidence.
98. Feeling suppressing for so long/ would it be a natural reaction when the dam breaks? Yes
99. If something is planned, is amnesia more or less likely to occur? More
100. How do you explain Jodi cleaning up the crime scene? It was planned badly
101. Retesting for PTSD. Why didn?t you? There is nothing that says he has to (after he says JM was harsh on him)
102. Is there anything in the book you gave Jodi that would mess up test results? No
103. How do you know Jodi tried to please Travis, when you never talked to Travis? I read all the stuff
104. How do you know she didn?t kill Travis out of jealousy? I read all the stuff
105. Acute Stress is the only thing that showed up ? Only in the section that describes PTSD
106. Jodi?s symptoms did not appear before June 4th? She did tell Dr that she may have had some of those symptoms.
Def followup
Symptoms of Jodi-shaking and tremors. Jodi was afraid of Travis.
Jealousy and how can Dr. be sure there was no jealousy? Dr. listened to a tape recording. They talked about him going to Cancun and Jodi never expressed she was jealous or mad.
Diary-Jodi did mention they were moving on. The Dr also reviewed text and there was no jealousy.
Thrown by JM during testimony about the PTSD and retaking the test-Dr has no concerns about the test. (Holy cow. This dude drives me crazy. I would rather listen to Creepy Gus)
Dr?s make a hypothesis but doesn?t give the test right away. He wants to refine his (speculating) hypothesis.
Approach Judge
Does your experience come into play? Absolutely. I?m awesome (he didn?t say that, but in my mind-he did)
When a person is in fight or flight, or they able to make decisions? He brings up animals. Brains don?t function properly. Jodi wanted to put distance between her and Travis on June 4th. Jodi?s fucked up brain excuses everything (or at least that?s what I?m getting from this Dr.) It?s survival.
Is it rational for a person to leave evidence at a crime scene? NO.
Lies- Have you had to kick people out because they lied? Only a few kids. (I bet this guy loves shock treatments)
Approach Judge
He didn?t want to push Jodi when she was telling the ninja story. On her own, she changed the story. Dr. believes Jodi was just protecting herself from the trauma. (She must have realized death was on the table) Dr. states again- it was NOT therapy, but if it was, it would have been a breakthrough.
Jodi was a witness to a murder-that?s why there was a trauma.
Now he?s talking about the normal group and sample group. Dr. says the people that develop these tests are very smart. The scales- looking for liars. It?s like a paper lie detector test. (So what do I believe? A paper test or my own ears?)
Low self esteem-not uncommon. He determined fast that Jodi had low self esteem. The Dr. has just admitted that when Jodi talked to ex boyfriends or girlfriends like Bianca-that was somewhat assertive.
The Dr. just called Jodi, Mrs Alexander and had to correct it. The Dr. says Jodi doesn?t love herself.
Jodi would be in fear when Travis wouldn?t call her for several days. He would get mad if she tried to stand up for herself and not call her. Travis would dominate and control her with withholding his love.
The book- Jodi has been just the Dr?s client and nothing else.
(A break for a few minutes. I had company.)
Some of the aspects of this case were not important. He says Jodi has PTSD. The Dr. said he made a mistake with his paperwork, but he corrected it.
The Hoover Dam is when her memory started to come back. He says Jodi was hyperventilating. The Dr says Jodi wouldn?t remember anything at the scene-maybe a flash here and there. (This Dr. is whacked)
Now the Dr. says she suffers from amnesia. The Dr called the crime scene a frenzy and she had the strength to pull him.
Recess (A jury member had something wrong with their headphones)
Perfect example of why they should have just gotten him off the stand as soon as possible. Willmott is just putting a bigger target on him for JM now.
I think he's going to feel like a meteor hit him when Juan is done with him!
Neither is Willmott. She should take his advice and stop now.
Or he's WISHING for one to, beforehand.
No no no!! This chump ain't going anywhere until Juan gets another crack at him
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