Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

[marycontrary]

A little late to the party, but a bad haircut is very stressfull!! Im not sure it could cause PTSD, but since my last bad one.. I refuse to let anyone cut more than the tips off my hair!!

I had my hair cut last year. It was waste length and I believed the weight of it was a factor in neck pain I was having. I told the lady I wanted layers and bangs and shoulder length. When she finished I looked like Johnny Depp in Willy Wonka. I did have PTSD for sure...lol. I don't think I could return to the "scene of the crime" or allow anyone with scissors near me. When it gets long enough I will just keep it braided.

[snowfallsoon]

Don't quote me as it was a while ago, but for something like looking at Arias--it was early on in the court observers thread on WS

Thanks. Shouldn't she be paying attention to the attorneys instead of looking around at the audience?

[*crickets*]

I heard the judge, but it's still the seal and quiet now I think I'm addicted, I feel like I'm having withdrawls lol

Yes you ARE addicted...come join our therapy group/12 step program!

[elamir]

Jury was literally mocking him with some of those questions. Just like they did to Stabby





"losing her borrowed futon"



Right after she came into the court room and after TA's supporters were asked to remove pics/ribbons she kept glancing over that them and she was gloating to herself. Looking all smug and satisfied with herself. I hate her more now than I ever did.

She's been openly taunting the family from the very first day, she's just a sick evil bitch.

[wasthinking]

Wilmott looked completely pissed off when he answered that question...

Oh that's right! Damn, I lost this connection in her pile of BS too.

[Jillee]

All Juan needs to ask this guy- "you based your mental evaluation on what she told you, right?" No further questions.

[***JiLL***]

They said earlier on HLN that the other women in jail love her and think she is amazing :/

For the same reason a lot of people in her life thought she was a nice girl, she's a master manipulator who can charm the pants off of anyone and fit into any situation.

[Sylvian]

They said earlier on HLN that the other women in jail love her and think she is amazing :/

Probably because she can quite literally sing for her supper (the singing comp she won which got people in her block a turkey dinner?)

[AnnieBelle]

Sorry to bring my own post forward. But this is essentially what Dr. Dick said in answer to the last question before the noon recess. I don't know what's wrong with me?? Proves Jodi Arias was a predatory parasite.

Yes....I think he just planted a huge seed in the minds of the jury (if it wasn't already there....) MOTIVE. She was furious that she'd (in her mind) bent over backwards to be everything that Travis could possibly want in a partner, and it still wasn't enough??! How DARE he follow through on taking MiMi to Cancun! Who the hell did he think he was??!!!!! She was NOT going to let Travis get away with that kind of shit!

And, she sure didn't.

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

Yes you ARE addicted...come join our therapy group/12 step program!

It involves ALOT of alcohol!

She's been openly taunting the family from the very first day, she's just a sick evil bitch.

Let's not excuse the evil bitch by calling her sick. She isn't sick. She.Is.Just.Evil.

[bermstalker]

All Juan needs to ask this guy- "you based your mental evaluation on what she told you, right?" No further question.

Exactly! That sums that up very well. So very true.

There is at least one person on that jury that is very much into all this hippocampus talk.

Then there is at least one person that thinks everything that doctor is saying is complete BS.

[Ian 1]

Just went back and read these texts
--------------------------------
May 26 Travis told JA to get LOST/Sociopath
May 28 the RARE .25 cal pistol is reported missing from Jodi's Grandparents Home.
JUNE 4 TRAVIS MURDERED
--------------------------------

Jodi sent Travis a text which Jodi claims she meant for her imaginary friend Steve Carrol. (Movie reference 40 year old Virgin; Travis WAS a 30 yr old virgin) Jodi sent Travis the text meant for Steve. Travis was angry at Jodi attempt to engage Travis with more of her lies.

This is the Text from T to J in regards to J fake story about Steve Carrol.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
TEXT from T to J
April 2008 (illegible)

"you have that information. its 15 minutes it would take to gt the info. But you won't take 15 minutes. Why because it is an Fucking lie. So either text me you that you are ready
to tell the truth or give me your imaginary friend with
the worst BS story you have ever told or leave me alone.
Its a lie like no other. It is freaking foolish. There is no way out of it, you have screwed up your story so bad you can't mend it. You are caught. When will you realize that. I do not know. You have til tomorrow. to have me this persons information before I tell all of the Hughes' Leslie Udy, the Freemans, your parents and anyone else that
matters about all the crazy things you have done. So
either fess up or feel the wrath. No matter how bad
the truth is I promise you the punishment will be
better than the lie. This is worse than your magical
email that a mysterious man you've never seen before
wrote for you. You insult me by thinking ill believe such
crap. nothing else from you til the truth. I already know
your lying so why continue. After tomorrow, its gonna
get real bad for you. Time to spit it out."

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


These 3 are all part of one long text,
no replies from JA in between:

05/26/08 at 07:59:15am

I sent you a response to your dire conversation, that I hope you read because you need to read it. Maybe it will spark human emotion in you, something that only seems to exist when it comes to your own problems. But everyone
else is just a part of your sick agenda. By the way, your pic comment to ***Danny Jones makes you look like a pure whore, even more to the people who know you. You should be embarrassed by it. If he knew what I knew about you he'd spit in your face. So would everyone else. I have never never in my life been hurt so bad by someone. But why do I
even say it because you don't care. It doesn't serve
your evilness.

**** The Danny Jones comment was "are those man boobs or are you just ripped".

05/26/08 at 08:35:02am

You couldn't get off your lazy butt to to read it could
you. That's the sociopath (I) know so well. it freakin
figures

05/26/08 at 09:11:11am

I don't want your apology I want you to understand
what I think of you. I want you to understand how evil I
think you are. You are the worst thing that ever
happened to me.

May 26 Travis told JA to get LOST/Sociopath

I wish I knew what thy were talking about.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/lajr3t

Does anyone understand the dynamics of these exchanges? What the hell were they all about? What was Jodi scheming? Please! Speculate!

[I doubt it]

They said earlier on HLN that the other women in jail love her and think she is amazing :/

Martha Stewart was popular in jail too. They love celebrities. What else is there to do?

Probably because she can quite literally sing for her supper (the singing comp she won which got people in her block a turkey dinner?)

Does anyone know if that singing comp was limited to Christmas hymns? I'm curious about her choice of song.

[AnnieBelle]

I had my hair cut last year. It was waste length and I believed the weight of it was a factor in neck pain I was having. I told the lady I wanted layers and bangs and shoulder length. When she finished I looked like Johnny Depp in Willy Wonka. I did have PTSD for sure...lol. I don't think I could return to the "scene of the crime" or allow anyone with scissors near me. When it gets long enough I will just keep it braided.

LOL! I can empathize!! I decided to grow my bangs out, and my hair was also almost waist length. So, for the past couple of years, I've had to chop the length to get past that "awkward" stage!! Now, it's finally back to my shoulders....so anxiety is subsiding!

[wasthinking]

Sorry-but I don't think they are buying what doc is selling!

3/‎21/‎13
Late start. Twitter says attorneys are in chambers.
Jodi has a Red top, white shirt and black pants. She looks nice today. Not as washed out looking.

The dr is back on the stand to answer jury questions. Suppose to be 100+ (the Q & A are the short version)
Jury Questions: Judge reads them out for the dr to answer.
1. Are you only allowed to testify with your clients consent? Yes
2. Fight or flight, does the body choose? Depends
3. Can both happen at the same time? Yes
4. Can memories blocked return? Only if hippocampus is really flooded
5. How can we be certain you diagnose is not based on her lies? Based on my experience
6. Did you hypz her? NO
7. Did anyone else? No
8. Fight or flight-do these memories exist? Not to me
9. If she can draw from photos, or stories, etc-couldn't she remember then? NO. They make fake memories
10. Are their other shrinks that have different opinions than you? There's never 100% agreement.
11. acute stress-more than 6 mths after you interviewed her. Please explain? I was speculating and making my own determination. PTSD is not a "get out of free card" (now he's talking about meteors)
12. On what dates did she take the test? Dec 2009
13. Can you be sure Jodi is not lying to you? Not with 100%
14. Would the shut down of the hippocampus be responsible for stress? Yes, but not totally. (not sure I got this question 100% correct)
15. Do you think Jodi suppress memories or are they missing? Can't be for sure.
16. Did you try hypz for the suppressed memories? No. The memories were not there
17. What steps do you take to assure yourself that somebody is telling the truth about memory loss? I have to look at the evidence. Can't be 100%
18. Is it possible somebody can fool a professional? Can't be 100% but I think I am right.
19. Was Jodi tested more than once? No
20. Could you tell when somebody is lying-or is it just your opinion? No. You have to explore
21. She made negative statements in her diary even though you said she didn't? They were mild statements.
22. Are there other disorders that would be the same? Yes. (now he explains why he's right)
23. Is there any science to explain about a stressful event? Maybe (now he explains why he is right)
24. How do you ask your question when you are interviewing a person? I just usually let them speak. I may ask a leading question
25. TGA- a juror calls him on his percentage being off from one day to the next and he corrects the juror.
26. TGA- is the list all inclusive? Unlikely
27. Does Jodi take medication to treat PTSD? Tranquilizer and anti depression
28. Time article-How did Jodi gets so much done on the day she killed Travis? Now dr. is explain about basic surival decisions.
29. Did you diagnose any conditions not mentioned? Anxiety and a personality disorder
30. Appears- Are you not 100% for sure? We are seldom 100% sure.
31. Are your opinions based on what the patient tells you? Not all the way
32. Shock event-can the brain still function to make a rational decision? Not always rational. For example in this case, a camera was found in the washer (Objection from the state)

Approach Judge
33. When discussing thoughts, did you use actors? The story changed is what the word "actors" meant.
34. Tremors or shakes-How can you tell PTSD causes this, and it's not fear for herself? Jodi told me.
35. Did you see Jodi shaking before she mentioned it? I did not notice it b/c I was behind a wall.
36. Are the actions a person commits while the hippocampus (- poor planned (did not get this whole question)
37. Are action with a person personality able to control the hippocampus? Acute stress makes you stressed and work on autopilot
38. Can these actions be the extreme opposite? Can the mind choose? The brain can't choose. (something about an elevator)
39. Adrenalin output would increase if you are killing somebody? (state objects)

Approach Judge
39. Repeat- Yes it's possible, just not probable
40. If not, why? People are different
41. PTSD and comparing Jodi to police and solider. Is that fair? PTSD is a label to list symptons.
42. Selective anmnesia? not valid
43. Would you still treat somebody that was not honest? No
44. Why didn't you give Jodi the test again? The score would not have changed
45. 25-30 hours is a short time to test somebody for PTSD ? No usually it's 6-10 hours.
46. Is the M test used for other test? Yes, some companies do
47. PTSD, when did you catch the errors? Nov or Dec preparing for trial
48. Do you fill they were big errors? No, not really
49. Jodi remembers the beginning of the attack and end-so she has memories of the attack, right? NO
50. Can the stress occur if somebody plans to kill verus defending? Possible but not probable
51. DO you often make mistakes in your reports? No
52. Where was Jodi when she came out of her fog? Hoover Dam
53. You have issues with omitting or forgetting information? Don't you think that is important? Yes
54. Why wasn't she retested? It wouldn't change the score.
55. Do you consider yourself an impartical 3 rd party? I try to be
56
57. Why the gift? I don't feel it was wrong.
58. Explain the phone call between Jodi and her mom? Lots of calls. They get angry
59. ?Jodi described it as venting towards her mother
60. In your opinion, do you think Jodi was assertive if she confronts bf and gf's? I don't think she was assertive
61. Do medications cause any of the anmensia you mentioned? Yes
62. Are you not 100% sure Jodi suffers from accute stress? That's correct
63. Anal sex. Is it important or not? It was only important for how many times.
64. When somebody changes the story, does it raise a red flag? Always, but IMO, Jodi is telling the truth. He was thinking about MP at one time
65. Sending a self help is more for therapy? I concur. It can help
66. You said if somebody changes the story, it's more believeable. Is that correct? Yes
67. If Jodi is lying now, wouldn't it make sense her story is consisant? Yes
68. Who conducted the interview with Jodi's friends? Def
69. PD Scales? No didn't use them
70. What are you suppose to do if somebody is suicidal? Inform people
71.
72. Why do you believe Jodi's self esteem was low when she met Travis? Jodi told me

Recess
Return at 1:25

Sorry, I missed some of the questions.

You do so much! Thanks berm. I think the early questions from when the def was trying to sell it indicate they are listening which is amazing on that note alone.
But you can actually see when it switched over to Juan. Might have that one nut though and one is all it takes. Hopefully that one will end up a released alternate.

[AnnieBelle]

Does anyone understand the dynamics of these exchanges? What the hell were they all about? What was Jodi scheming? Please! Speculate!

I was wondering the same thing! Were these entered into evidence? Sounds like some pretty scary stuff to me, and a ton of motivation!

[*crickets*]

I was surprised the family was allowed to wear them at all, this doesn't shock me. Most courts wouldn't allow it.

Most courts wouldn't allow gum chewing/passing around snacks/swigging Coke out of a 2 liter bottle either!

[Ian 1]

Yes....I think he just planted a huge seed in the minds of the jury (if it wasn't already there....) MOTIVE. She was furious that she'd (in her mind) bent over backwards to be everything that Travis could possibly want in a partner, and it still wasn't enough??! How DARE he follow through on taking MiMi to Cancun! Who the hell did he think he was??!!!!! She was NOT going to let Travis get away with that kind of shit!

And, she sure didn't.

She wasn't focusing on just Cancun. All Cancun and Mimi meant to this yokel is that her ticket to the rest of Travis's life was definitively marked cancelled, invalid, expired, outdated, kaput, whatever you wanna' call it. She had only one place to go. Her bolt-hole at Grandma's place in Yreka that she set out from on her journey to a better life 10 years before.

[wasthinking]

Yes....I think he just planted a huge seed in the minds of the jury (if it wasn't already there....) MOTIVE. She was furious that she'd (in her mind) bent over backwards to be everything that Travis could possibly want in a partner, and it still wasn't enough??! How DARE he follow through on taking MiMi to Cancun! Who the hell did he think he was??!!!!! She was NOT going to let Travis get away with that kind of shit!

And, she sure didn't.

Quacko talked about her 'flowery' comments before too. I pray to God the jurors link that up and finally say outloud, doesn't that reflect she was "Obsessed with him"

[smurfy]

I had my hair cut last year. It was waste length and I believed the weight of it was a factor in neck pain I was having. I told the lady I wanted layers and bangs and shoulder length. When she finished I looked like Johnny Depp in Willy Wonka. I did have PTSD for sure...lol. I don't think I could return to the "scene of the crime" or allow anyone with scissors near me. When it gets long enough I will just keep it braided.

That is terrible!! I too had very nice long hair! I decided it was time to take some off for the summer months and when I left it was about an inch long in the back and about 3 inches long around my face. It was HORRIBLE! Though, not as bad as wonka hair! Hmm, think you could sue over the emotional damages?? lol

[lorizfree]

Just went back and read these texts
--------------------------------
May 26 Travis told JA to get LOST/Sociopath
May 28 the RARE .25 cal pistol is reported missing from Jodi's Grandparents Home.
JUNE 4 TRAVIS MURDERED
--------------------------------

Jodi sent Travis a text which Jodi claims she meant for her imaginary friend Steve Carrol. (Movie reference 40 year old Virgin; Travis WAS a 30 yr old virgin) Jodi sent Travis the text meant for Steve. Travis was angry at Jodi attempt to engage Travis with more of her lies.

This is the Text from T to J in regards to J fake story about Steve Carrol.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
TEXT from T to J
April 2008 (illegible)

"you have that information. its 15 minutes it would take to gt the info. But you won't take 15 minutes. Why because it is an Fucking lie. So either text me you that you are ready
to tell the truth or give me your imaginary friend with
the worst BS story you have ever told or leave me alone.
Its a lie like no other. It is freaking foolish. There is no way out of it, you have screwed up your story so bad you can't mend it. You are caught. When will you realize that. I do not know. You have til tomorrow. to have me this persons information before I tell all of the Hughes' Leslie Udy, the Freemans, your parents and anyone else that
matters about all the crazy things you have done. So
either fess up or feel the wrath. No matter how bad
the truth is I promise you the punishment will be
better than the lie. This is worse than your magical
email that a mysterious man you've never seen before
wrote for you. You insult me by thinking ill believe such
crap. nothing else from you til the truth. I already know
your lying so why continue. After tomorrow, its gonna
get real bad for you. Time to spit it out."

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


These 3 are all part of one long text,
no replies from JA in between:

05/26/08 at 07:59:15am

I sent you a response to your dire conversation, that I hope you read because you need to read it. Maybe it will spark human emotion in you, something that only seems to exist when it comes to your own problems. But everyone
else is just a part of your sick agenda. By the way, your pic comment to ***Danny Jones makes you look like a pure whore, even more to the people who know you. You should be embarrassed by it. If he knew what I knew about you he'd spit in your face. So would everyone else. I have never never in my life been hurt so bad by someone. But why do I
even say it because you don't care. It doesn't serve
your evilness.

**** The Danny Jones comment was "are those man boobs or are you just ripped".

05/26/08 at 08:35:02am

You couldn't get off your lazy butt to to read it could
you. That's the sociopath (I) know so well. it freakin
figures

05/26/08 at 09:11:11am

I don't want your apology I want you to understand
what I think of you. I want you to understand how evil I
think you are. You are the worst thing that ever
happened to me.

May 26 Travis told JA to get LOST/Sociopath

I wish I knew what thy were talking about.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/lajr3t

Wow..thank you for putting that all together. I've read through them several times, but putting them together is helpful. These are too close to the murder to not be related. I can only imagine how pissed she must have been. Of course we all know she's a liar and a psychopath, but I too wonder what was actually going on during those conversations. I do find it interesting that Dr DICK said she has a personality disorder, although I wouldn't trust him to diagnose a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. With the new video that's been coming out of her interrogations, she's an absolute narcissist, with a little(NOT) sprinkle of anti-social personality disorder. It'll be interesting to hear what the prosecution psychologist has to say.

[qtkitycat]

It involves ALOT of alcohol!


Let's not excuse the evil bitch by calling her sick. She isn't sick. She.Is.Just.Evil.

Alcohol? I can do that....lol

[elamir]

Heard a rumour the Nurmi told Wilmutt to remove everything away from Jodi except her paper and pencils, first thing today, waiting for youtube vid to go up to check it out....did you guys see this?

[*crickets*]

Treated w/medication for this TERRIBLE PTS condition? Sounds waaaaayyyy to sympathetic to JA for my liking. Who is this juror? Will they be the holdout?

I think that was sarcasm/snark.

[AnnieBelle]

Most courts wouldn't allow gum chewing/passing around snacks/swigging Coke out of a 2 liter bottle either!

I am sure they will be sporting VERY large ribbons, buttons, or whatever the hell makes them feel stronger, at her penalty hearing! They WILL get their day in court, to be heard.....loud and clear. God bless them!