Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

[Freethinker]

Yes he got to see them during the hour break, but because court closed unexpectedly, he got more time last night to think about what he'll say. Jodi was also privied to the same. This is what I understood, correct me if I'm wrong.

I stand corrected, I see another poster answered. I knew the attorneys went over them, I thought the person involved did too.

[queenaevadamthng]

I am looking forward to seeing State's expert.

[I doubt it]

Holy shit, I googled Clancy's name and found this article, pretty sure it's her because Dave Hall is also interviewed as her friend http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=3832691

OMG! The accident was on July 11, 2008. Did Jodi put a spell on her or something?

[AnnieBelle]

Sorry if this was already addressed.....other than PTSD and anxiety was JA tested for any other mental problems....or did the Dr. just "hypothesize" PTSD and stick with that..because I think we all see signs of sociopathy, bipolar, narcicism(sp?), etc

My thoughts are that this Doc Dick was hired by the defense to bolster their claims that she did it in self-defense. None of those other diagnoses would support that. None of those other conditions would be a defense. They know she was not insane at the time of his murder. That is pretty much all that counts...that she was aware that what she was doing was wrong. And her behavior shows that she most certainly did.

[qtkitycat]

I really don't get this whole passive pitiful JA that Dr. was talking about. Possibly he had some of his notes from another patient mixed in with Hodi's. With all that has been said JA strikes me as extremely assertive. One of those ppl that don't take no for an answer.

No kidding, what a jumbled mess for a professional. For $250 an hour, I would have charts, graphs, pie charts all color coded in pretty colors...lol

[Ian 1]

The one with the pinstripes? It makes me think of mafia gangsters.

...and those Leprechaun shoes he wore with it would never have found their way into my collection of 56 pairs!!! But, c'mon, he had other suits he looked pretty spiffy in. That beige one he gave/bequeathed to his friend, Dave Hall, who is going to testify about Travis owning guns dressed him up good. Time to retreat to that old adage, 'the clothes do not make the man.'

A fond for a 'kid' who had to find his own style. He was a work in progress 'till that devil came along.

[qtkitycat]

In trying to find a live stream for the trial this morning, I came across this site: http://www.livestream.com/azcentral_news

And I WISH I could get a screen grab!! It's Santa and an elf rambling on about something

[Brillig]

I'm convinced even if I have to take into consideration that killing Travis was only one of a number of crazy fantasy scenarios Jodi Arias developed, particularly during the period May 26 - June 4, 2008. Killing Travis wasn't her principal objective in going to see him--obviously she went there in pursuit of her principal objective--to somehow re-engineer Travis to obsess on her the same way she obsessed on him. As much as she couldn't stand the thought of not being the one and only in Travis's life, she couldn't bear the thought that some other woman/person could be. The whole sub-text of her complaints to him about not acknowledging her to his friends and associates as his 'special friend' and for not publicly proclaiming what she did for him has been subsumed within the mountain of other proof of motive, but it pretty well settles it for me. Jodi Arias could not stand the agony brought on by the thought of living without Travis Alexander, but, more than that, she could not stand the torment of Travis living on, happily, without her. That's a powerful force behind all of her stalking antics. It's a theme that has been offered in Literature/Drama, (See the 19th. century Swedish Playwright August Strindberg) as a reason for people fighting to remain together through long and desperately unhappy marriages. As much as some people hate being with their husband/wife, they hate even more the thought of the object of their hatred being happy apart from them. Jodi Arias is a throwback. Never mind her efforts to euphemistically present herself as a modern, emancipated female. Her whole being is anchored in her dependency upon relationships with 'her' men. I think the thought of Travis Alexander happily living on without her, while not the only element, was certainly a strong force in propelling Jodi Arias to consider doing what she finally did. It may have been a contingency, contrary to how she hoped things would turn out, but I'm convinced a plan to destroy Travis's life was in the back of her mind and she prepared herself to carry it out if it became necessary. That's motive premeditation and the physical preparations she made to execute her contingency plan proves premeditation, beyond any reasonable doubt, to me.

I'll quit now.

YES! This sums it up perfectly. Well done.

[AnnieBelle]

I can't paste pics.. But I gotta say..I really think that is an ugly suit TA is wearing..

I always thought that, too. Not his finest choice!

[Estefaniia]

Here we go... It's on!!!

[Brillig]

I can't paste pics.. But I gotta say..I really think that is an ugly suit TA is wearing..

If he was a prohibition era gangster, that suit would be perfect.

And we sure this was not a costume party or a themed party he was attending?

[smurfy]

I posted this yesterday...http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../22/ng.01.html...
Anyone else think she was on her way to start a killing spree? 2 knives and a gun hidden in her new rental when the police were coming to arrest her.... pretty damning considering how TA was murdered.

[Estefaniia]

never mind

[acertaingirl]

I can't paste pics.. But I gotta say..I really think that is an ugly suit TA is wearing..

LOL! Looks like a John Gotti suit!

[qtkitycat]

I heard the judge, but it's still the seal and quiet now I think I'm addicted, I feel like I'm having withdrawls lol

[MartyT]

?..
Now regarding jury questions...I'd love to see one asking if she was tested for psychopathy, sociopathy, pathological lying, etc. Also, if the good Doc's testing showed that she wasnt guilty of stealing a gun and flying under the radar for a stealthy visit to Travis' house or not. Would be interesting what he would say to that question, lol.

My money is on psychopath. The evidence of her psychopathy is littered through the evidence presented in court and the extra footage seen by the public. You raise Interesting questions. I enjoy reading the many theories. Arias is complex, layered and with many attributable traits to consider.

[wasthinking]

WildAboutTrial Judge Stephens has taken the bench. Courtroom is fairly empty today after the vomit episode yesterday.



WildAboutTrial The fresh scent of orange is wafting through media section, perhaps someones gum? Mmmm smells great!



WildAboutTrial She is still hearing another case at the moment. The #JodiArias trial will begin shortly. 3 minutes ago ? reply ? retweet ? favorite

[Brillig]

...and those Leprechaun shoes he wore with it would never have found their way into my collection of 56 pairs!!! But, c'mon, he had other suits he looked pretty spiffy in. That beige one he gave to his friend, Dave Hall, who is going to testify about Travis owning guns dressed him up good. Time to retreat to that old adage, 'the clothes do not make the man.'

A fond for a 'kid' who had to find his own style. He was a work in progress 'till that devil came along.

I agree. He was trying to find his own style, and it is endearing. I bet he somehow thought that "traditional" (in his mind) suit went with his grand and traditional furniture, and his "old fashioned" razor set.

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

My thoughts are that this Doc Dick was hired by the defense to bolster their claims that she did it in self-defense. None of those other diagnoses would support that. None of those other conditions would be a defense. They know she was not insane at the time of his murder. That is pretty much all that counts...that she was aware that what she was doing was wrong. And her behavior shows that she most certainly did.

Nothing he testified to went to her claim of self defense. It was all about her supposed trauma AFTER the murder.

No kidding, what a jumbled mess for a professional. For $250 an hour, I would have charts, graphs, pie charts all color coded in pretty colors...lol

Surprised they didn't have the Stabby draw some up for him. She's the next Monet/Van Gogh you know!

[acertaingirl]

My money is on psychopath. The evidence of her psychopathy is littered through the evidence presented in court and the extra footage seen by the public. You raise Interesting questions. I enjoy reading the many theories. Arias is complex, layered and with many attributable traits to consider.

I feel so boring...being normal...I have no layers...

[AnnieBelle]

I heard the judge, but it's still the seal and quiet now I think I'm addicted, I feel like I'm having withdrawls lol

Part of me can't wait for this trial to conclude....so that I can peel myself away from the coverage, and actually get back into a more productive routine of life, again! LOL

[alaina02]

*[Originally Posted by*Brillig*I would not show up uninvited. I would not announce myself as his girlfriend. If someone disavowed me in front of people, I would be mortified and leave immediately. I would never stay where I was not wanted.]

Born and raised in SWLA about as southern as southern gets...I dunno if things are different in the West but we consider it EXTREMELY rude to show up somewhere without an invitation, even going to your mama's house..

SWLA? where is that ...im in southeast texas....i think i am as southern as you can get ;)

[queenaevadamthng]

[*Originally Posted by*zeebee*The one with the pinstripes? It makes me think of mafia gangsters....and those Leprechaun shoes he wore with it would never have found their way into my collection of 56 pairs!!! But, c'mon, he had other suits he looked pretty spiffy in. That beige one he gave to his friend, Dave Hall, who is going to testify about Travis owning guns dressed him up good. Time to retreat to that old adage, 'the clothes do not make the man.'A fond**for a 'kid' who had to find his own style. He was a work in progress 'till that devil came along.]

Please don't get me wrong,TA was a very handsome young man. I just didn't find the suit flattered him much. Being a teenager of the 80's I have my fair share of wardrobe faux pas documented in photos myself.

[Sylvian]

I think TA looked pretty great in those pics of him in suits. I'm 36 (travis would have been 36 this year?) and I think men of my age ought to make more effort with the way they dress just like he did. :)

[MartyT]

I feel so boring...being normal...I have no layers...

Arias claims she is normal too :undecided

Maybe we should ask Dr Samuels to evaluate you psychologically? He finds normal in the insane actions of a murderer so he might pry apart some of your normal layers to reveal all this for only 250 bucks an hour.