Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

[GuiltyasSin]

Can I start calling her a lump of coal now?

Yes.. it is official she is a lump of coal.. what a damn Christmas gift that was...

[NCBlonde]

OK, now don't laugh at me, lol... but does anyone think it's possible that she really DOESN'T remember most of the attack?

*ducks.rocks*

I mean, I don't think that, but after watching the video just now of her asking to see the crime scene pics a TINY part of me wonders...
What if she was in some sort of rage blackout/frenzy of some sort? Say she shot/stabbed him first, in the shower but nothing went as expected... something caused her to flip out (cuz her plans were getting all f'ed up?) and she just went crazy?

Now, I don't believe for a second that he attacked her first, or any of her horse shit really... but in regards to the real fight, what if she really doesn't remember the sequence of events and needed to see the pics to figure out wtf to tell the police (cuz you know she was probably already trying to formulate a story)?

Does that sound even remotely possible?

Then again the "morbid curiosity" part makes me think she is just a raging psycho... so there's that, lol.



I said the SAME thing to my bf about showing the other video... its SO much creepier and fit's the song so much more.



Right!

I think it's more likely that she didn't have time to stand around and admire her handiwork because she had to get the hell outta Dodge before his roommate came home. She didn't get time to really survey the scene and see what he looked like.

[M Joy]

I've never heard of Carl Arias, but there is one in Yreka. If you search WhitePages.com there is a result for Carl A. Arias. Click on that and it's said he's also know as Carlton Allen Arias. http://www.whitepages.com/name/carl-...eka-california

This link says he was born on 1985. Relatives include Jodi, Bill and Sandra

http://pub360.com/pub/Arias/Carlton/

That would make him 27/28, which would make him 7 or 8 twenty years ago.

I suppose the information could be incorrect and he could actually be older.

Here is a family pic from Jodi's myspace

The caption says "Angela, Carl, MaeLee, Monique, me".
I think I either assumed he was older because of this - he appears older than Jodi in this pic - or I read it somewhere but I have no clue where that was now.


The caption on this one says "My little brother leads a privileged life.". Does this look like the same guy? I think your 27/28 range could be correct

[gigiann]

Originally Posted by M Joy Who else thinks that someone was paid to vomit in the gallery in order to get more time before Dr Dick has to answer questions?

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That's the first thing I thought too! How much of a coincidence is that???

[Brillig]

OK, now don't laugh at me, lol... but does anyone think it's possible that she really DOESN'T remember most of the attack?

*ducks.rocks*

I mean, I don't think that, but after watching the video just now of her asking to see the crime scene pics a TINY part of me wonders...
What if she was in some sort of rage blackout/frenzy of some sort? Say she shot/stabbed him first, in the shower but nothing went as expected... something caused her to flip out (cuz her plans were getting all f'ed up?) and she just went crazy?

Now, I don't believe for a second that he attacked her first, or any of her horse shit really... but in regards to the real fight, what if she really doesn't remember the sequence of events and needed to see the pics to figure out wtf to tell the police (cuz you know she was probably already trying to formulate a story)?

Does that sound even remotely possible?

Then again the "morbid curiosity" part makes me think she is just a raging psycho... so there's that, lol.

I think Stabby remembers the attack - - there is not blackout. She just wanted to see the pics so she could try and make whatever story she was in the process of concocting "comport with the evidence".

[NCBlonde]

Here is a family pic from Jodi's myspace


I think I either assumed he was older because of this - he appears older than Jodi in this pic - or I read it somewhere but I have no clue where that was now.


The caption on this one says "My little brother leads a privileged life.". Does this look like the same guy? I think your 27/28 range could be correct

Looks like the same guy in both pics. If so, then he was a mere 7, maybe 8 years old, depending on birth month. I have only seen birth year of 1985, unless you pay for the info, and I'm not that interested.


Going back to the whole puking in the courtroom thing, I would think that if that was going to happen, it would've happened when the bloody crime scene/autopsy photos were shown. We didn't hear about anyone getting sick then. I guess it was probably the flu or food poisoning or something.

[AnnieBelle]

[QUOTE=bete noire;3362035]OK, now don't laugh at me, lol... but does anyone think it's possible that she really DOESN'T remember most of the attack?

*ducks.rocks*

I mean, I don't think that, but after watching the video just now of her asking to see the crime scene pics a TINY part of me wonders...
What if she was in some sort of rage blackout/frenzy of some sort? Say she shot/stabbed him first, in the shower but nothing went as expected... something caused her to flip out (cuz her plans were getting all f'ed up?) and she just went crazy?

Now, I don't believe for a second that he attacked her first, or any of her horse shit really... but in regards to the real fight, what if she really doesn't remember the sequence of events and needed to see the pics to figure out wtf to tell the police (cuz you know she was probably already trying to formulate a story)?

Does that sound even remotely possible?

Then again the "morbid curiosity" part makes me think she is just a raging psycho... so there's that, lol.



I understand what you are saying.....it's possible that she was in such a heightened state of rage, when killing him, that her brain was on adrenalin overload. If she HAS any memory lapse, it sure isn't for the reasons the defense states.

But...I doubt it.

[gigiann]

When did the argument between Jodi and Travis take place regarding Travis dating other people?

[Morticia]

Originally Posted by M Joy Who else thinks that someone was paid to vomit in the gallery in order to get more time before Dr Dick has to answer questions?

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That's the first thing I thought too! How much of a coincidence is that???

It's as obvious as the prosecutor's expert witness having her laptop stolen.

[Harlette]

here is the youngest brother
http://www.facebook.com/joey.arias.7

[bete noire]

Thanks for the input guys =)

I understand what you are saying.....it's possible that she was in such a heightened state of rage, when killing him, that her brain was on adrenalin overload. If she HAS any memory lapse, it sure isn't for the reasons the defense states.

But...I doubt it.

That's what I was getting at. Memory lapses, but not the ones for the reason that the defense states.

Her wanting to keep the memories to herself fit perfectly, as well.

I was just wondering about rage blackouts, I wasn't sure quite how they worked.

[AnnieBelle]

Seeing the family picture of Jodi.....is disturbing, in that she LOOKS so normal. They all do. I have to wonder what "snapped" in her brain, what switch was tripped. She got through 28-29 yrs without butchering someone. I think that is what draws me to these cases, more than anything....trying to figure out how the criminal mind ticks. I am not buying, for a split second, that she was abused or controlled or manipulated. Inexplicable.

[bete noire]

Seeing the family picture of Jodi.....is disturbing, in that she LOOKS so normal. They all do. I have to wonder what "snapped" in her brain, what switch was tripped. She got through 28-29 yrs without butchering someone. I think that is what draws me to these cases, more than anything....trying to figure out how the criminal mind ticks. I am not buying, for a split second, that she was abused or controlled or manipulated. Inexplicable.

Isn't that what they say about serial killers, also... they they looked like such normal guys... they were handsome and charming...

Makes you wonder if you ever really know a person, which is scary!

[AnnieBelle]

Thanks for the input guys =)



That's what I was getting at. Memory lapses, but not the ones for the reason that the defense states.

Her wanting to keep the memories to herself fit perfectly, as well.

I was just wondering about rage blackouts, I wasn't sure quite how they worked.

I'm not sure how that works, either. I just think of a book called "The Red Zone", about the fatal dog mauling in San Francisco, years back. The author describes the "zone" that these dogs got into, when their brains signaled attack. Nothing, short of shooting them dead, would have stopped these dogs until they were finished with their job of killing. I think of that, and I think of Jodi. She was in a "red zone" of a different sort.

[M Joy]

Sorry its on NG but here is some of the new footage from Jodi's arrest day

[Mousy]

I need to go back to see how many days ago was it that I brought up the whole Michael guy who popped pills in Phoenix. I think I have a fan on the Dr. Drew show. :S

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

I really do not think that in a stage of rage you can remember just the beginning or just the end or both. There would be complete blackness there OR she would at least remember bits and pieces... little blurps of information/scenes in her head that would have helped her piece it together. Because of her 'perfectly placed remeberances' alone, I call bullshit and say she remembers everything. She wants to keep it to herself, because that is one part of Travis hat truly ONLY she knows. She can make up lies that she knew he was abusive and no one else did. She can make up lies that he was a pedo and no one else knew... but truly - the only thing she has of Travis is his sexual life and his murder. Both of which she made sure she got the last of. It absolutely disgusts me that she has him this way, but it's the truth, and she knows it, and feels no regret or remorse whatsoever.

Yes. He is her's for forever in her mind. Add in the way she is torturing his family just for sh*ts and giggles as well.

I've never heard of Carl Arias, but there is one in Yreka. If you search WhitePages.com there is a result for Carl A. Arias. Click on that and it's said he's also know as Carlton Allen Arias. http://www.whitepages.com/name/carl-...eka-california

This link says he was born on 1985. Relatives include Jodi, Bill and Sandra

http://pub360.com/pub/Arias/Carlton/

That would make him 27/28, which would make him 7 or 8 twenty years ago.

I suppose the information could be incorrect and he could actually be older.

He must be the one she hit over the head with a bat when he was little. Anything I've heard/read about him is that he is estranged from her and has been since before the murder.

Soooo.. Jodi slept underneath Travis' Christmas tree..

Where did that bit of crazy come from? She is one scary chick!

So of all her family members, the only one who remembered the "knife at her throat at age 13" incident is her (then) 5 year old brother?!?

More likely that was a story she made up for her parents to explain why she was late coming home one night so she wouldn't get punished. When it comes to Stabby if there isn't a third party independent to confirm it I am not buying it!

I think Stabby remembers the attack - - there is not blackout. She just wanted to see the pics so she could try and make whatever story she was in the process of concocting "comport with the evidence".

She remembers every swing of the kinife. Bet on it.

It's as obvious as the prosecutor's expert witness having her laptop stolen.

Damn Donavon! Noticed she was missing from court again!

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

I'm not sure how that works, either. I just think of a book called "The Red Zone", about the fatal dog mauling in San Francisco, years back. The author describes the "zone" that these dogs got into, when their brains signaled attack. Nothing, short of shooting them dead, would have stopped these dogs until they were finished with their job of killing. I think of that, and I think of Jodi. She was in a "red zone" of a different sort.

^That

[poppym]

Not sure if anyone posted this. Too funny!
http://youtu.be/LqbMtDj6CCQ

YOU RYE ABOUT EVERYTHING!



YOU ARE THE MOTHER OF ALL RYES!

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

This Zion guy that was on Dr Drew is the one who told Ryan Burns to call Stabby.

[I doubt it]

I also don't know what Joey Arias' MySpace says he's 25, because Been Verified says 19. That means he wasn't even born when Jodi was allegedly held at knifepoint. So yeah, had to be the other brother.

So of all her family members, the only one who remembered the "knife at her throat at age 13" incident is her (then) 5 year old brother?!?

If Carl is 27/28, that means he's 4 or 5 years younger than Jodi, so he would be 8 or 9 when Jodi was 13. (But I thought he was 2 years younger for some reason.)

[*crickets*]

These new videos...what the actual HELL...

Did anyone catch the moment today during one of the recesses where they left tha camera on and Jodi turns around and catches the eye of the Mitigation Lady, and ML immediately scurries over like she's Jodi's slave or something, like "yes Mistress, what do you desire?" and they start one of their whisper/makeout sessions? Damn this girl creeps me out more every day. Poor Dr. Dick fell under her spell, never had a chance. Not to mention Travis...

I feel like her evilness is creeping out of my TV like that scene in 'Poltergeist' where the evil spirits float out of the TV and snatch the little girl...

[phantompoet]

it would be funny if they interviewed the person that vomited in the courtroom on HLN

[Rockabillychick]

No....court, tomorrow!!! 10:30!!!

YAY! Thank you and Sneakers, too!

[sheesh]

Great stuff on NG from female friend of TA about Jodi.

I take back the "big evil" characterization of Jodi-- she's a garden variety Narcissistic Personality Disordered stalker/murderer.

Arias is no different than the idiot men you hear about who murder an ex-girlfriend because: "If I can't have you, nobody can."

She's the Mayor of Loserville.

The only way she gets into TA's life is through the doggy door or the servants entrance.

Amazing that she crashed his party and announced herself as "Travis' girlfriend" and TA said "No, she's not..." when he was there with his date.

What a maroon! What an ignoranimous!