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    Not sure if anyone has already posted this lovely little quote from the JAII site yet or not:


    "Let’s see what underhanded tricks Martinez tries to pull this afternoon, the ignorant uneducated piece of shit that he is. No wonder the TravisTown pedo-huggers are so attracted to him, in every sense of the word.
    Leave your comments below*on the*afternoon session*of day 33,*as Jodi takes one step closer to victory…
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    I'm not familiar with the history of that site, but I know there was a similar one for Casey. Who the hell is this person? Some Internet troll or someone who actually cares about these women for whatever creepy reason...

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    About that video

    tawnidilly 4 hours ago
    Ok, so as much as I would love to keep saying she took the notebook off the table. When I was taking screenshots, I saw she that she just moved the notebook out of view and shifted position. Everyone knows Im not a Jodi defender so....


    Yes, I can see. She didn't take it, she just moved the notebook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Estefaniia View Post
    About that video

    tawnidilly 4 hours ago
    Ok, so as much as I would love to keep saying she took the notebook off the table. When I was taking screenshots, I saw she that she just moved the notebook out of view and shifted position. Everyone knows Im not a Jodi defender so....


    Yes, I can see. She didn't take it, she just moved the notebook.
    I disagree. She very clearly takes the notebook off the table. Later, at about 49 seconds she kind of "wiggles" again. The camera goes back to the doc. When it goes back to Jodi, the notebook is magically in front of her again. I think she slipped a secret note in it.

    ETA: I don't know. I could be wrong. Jodi is making me crazy!!!!! She is "wiggling" in her chair a lot. Does she have worms or something?
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    Jodi Arias Trial: Dr. Samuels Second Day of Testimony…….Oops!

    However, when prosecutor Martinez cross-examined Dr. Samuels’s his expertise did not go unchallenged.

    For instance, early in the cross-examination, prosecutor Martinez asked Samuels if he had much experience with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). Dr. Samuels responded indeed he had. Prosecutor Martinez then asked him, the name of the PTSD test that Dr. Samuels had given to Jodi Arias. Dr. Samuels began to answer, apparently was unable to remember the correct name, then began to look for the test itself in his binder. Prosecutor Martinez, saw him doing this and told him to stop and “simply tell us the name from memory.” Dr. Samuels struggled to remember the name of the test and then stated the name incorrectly. Prosecutor Martinez then asked him to read the name from the test, proving that the name given from Dr. Samuels memory was incorrect. In fact, it wasn’t even close.

    Prosecutor Martinez asked Dr. Samuels how many times he had given this test. Dr. Samuels replied “about 15 times.” That’s 15 times in a lifetime. There are many clinicians, who specialize in PTSD, who have administered this test 1500 times or more. The question arises, “does administering a PTSD test 15 times, make you more a beginner or an expert?” Remember Dr. Samuels could not remember the name of the test that he had administered 15 times. Would it be fair to conclude that he was not very familiar with this test?

    Also Dr. Samuels was unable to provide documentation that prosecutor Martinez requested. He was reprimanded by prosecutor Martinez for not being prepared to provide expert testimony. Prosecutor Martinez told Dr. Samuels that an expert witness is expected to bring the complete case file with him to court. On at least two occasions Dr. Samuels offered the excuse that he had probably “left it on his desk.” Once again I ask the question, “would it be fair to say that a professional witness, offering the excuse “I must have left it on my desk” is akin to “my dog ate my homework?”

    More can be read at http://kristinarandle.com/blog/jodi-...estimony-oops/
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    Sneakers, you missed #1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Estefaniia View Post
    About that video

    tawnidilly 4 hours ago
    Ok, so as much as I would love to keep saying she took the notebook off the table. When I was taking screenshots, I saw she that she just moved the notebook out of view and shifted position. Everyone knows Im not a Jodi defender so....


    Yes, I can see. She didn't take it, she just moved the notebook.

    I'm pretty sure that Stabby is searched each day as she is taken to and from the jail. She is allowed her legal docs and I have seen her entering the court room with a big yellow envelope stuffed with stuff. Her clothes would be searched before they are given to her and also when they are returned to her attorneys or whomever is bringing them to court for her.
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    LOL I have HLN on in the background. The host of the show just said "Jodi seems to ruin everything she touches".... I think he is reading MDS.

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    I know some are questioning whether JM can prove premeditation, but can't she still be convicted of 1st degree because it was "cruel and heinous"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigiann View Post
    Sneakers, you missed #1
    Well poop. It was her social security number she was supposedly going to get when she saw TA with that other chick through the window.

    She was going to TA's to move help boxes to attic wasn't she?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blah28 View Post
    I'm not familiar with the history of that site, but I know there was a similar one for Casey. Who the hell is this person? Some Internet troll or someone who actually cares about these women for whatever creepy reason...
    Same troll. I suspect it's just a con to part rubes with their money. Somebody posted a link to video that somebody did trying to trace ownership of that site and the others like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justice11 View Post
    I disagree. She very clearly takes the notebook off the table. Later, at about 49 seconds she kind of "wiggles" again. The camera goes back to the doc. When it goes back to Jodi, the notebook is magically in front of her again. I think she slipped a secret note in it.

    ETA: I don't know. I could be wrong. Jodi is making me crazy!!!!! She is "wiggling" in her chair a lot. Does she have worms or something?
    I think so too... she didn't slide it more closer to her she slide it under her right butt cheek/hip then it appears back on the table later on

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    Ok--- to Justice!! & Sneakers
    Tawni is looking into the Doc about putting evidence into his briefcase & Doc writing on evidence while JM's back is turned

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    Dissociative Amnesia

    Another major error committed by Dr. Samuels, is his linking dissociative amnesia with the physical inability to form memories, during periods of severe stress, in the hippocampus region. The first problem here, is that science does not accept this ?hippocampus theory? as being factually proven. It would be much fairer to say, that science sees this as a theory, one theory among many others, that may or might help to explain memory encoding. Remember this theory, as expertly explained by Dr. Samuels, says that you cannot physically remember events during traumatic periods, because the hippocampus is flooded with hormones and is incapable of encoding memories.

    Now the problem with this, is that some people do remember events during traumatic times. They have excellent recall, perhaps even enhanced recall when compared to non-stressful times. As I stated before in other writings, Dr. Samuels clearly states that it is impossible to remember during these traumatic periods. Well we know he is wrong. It must be possible to remember? because people do remember.

    Another problem that Dr. Samuels has, when he links dissociative amnesia with the hippocampus theory, is that they simply do not belong together. The ?hippocampus theory? deals with physical amnesia. The dissociative amnesia theory, deals with psychological amnesia.

    Dr. Samuels diagnosed Jodi Arias as having dissociative amnesia because of the stress that made the hippocampus unable to encode memory. He also clearly stated over and over again that you cannot remember what has not been encoded. ?You can?t remember what?s not there.?

    While once again the big problem here is that people with dissociative amnesia often do regain their memories. Logically speaking this must prove that memories had indeed been encoded by the hippocampus and encoded during a time of stress.

    http://kristinarandle.com/blog/jodi-...estimony-oops/

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    This Dr Dick is pissing me off. She came out of the closet after getting the gun and went into the hall? And all those old fashioned hand written notes? Can't he get them transcribed? And he quotes a Time Magazine as reference? What decade is this yoohoo in?

    And he answers questions about the "events" as if he KNOWS what happened and he's sharing the "facts"?? Oh puhhhhlleeaase

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Dissociative Amnesia

    Another major error committed by Dr. Samuels, is his linking dissociative amnesia with the physical inability to form memories, during periods of severe stress, in the hippocampus region. The first problem here, is that science does not accept this ?hippocampus theory? as being factually proven. It would be much fairer to say, that science sees this as a theory, one theory among many others, that may or might help to explain memory encoding. Remember this theory, as expertly explained by Dr. Samuels, says that you cannot physically remember events during traumatic periods, because the hippocampus is flooded with hormones and is incapable of encoding memories.

    Now the problem with this, is that some people do remember events during traumatic times. They have excellent recall, perhaps even enhanced recall when compared to non-stressful times. As I stated before in other writings, Dr. Samuels clearly states that it is impossible to remember during these traumatic periods. Well we know he is wrong. It must be possible to remember? because people do remember.

    Another problem that Dr. Samuels has, when he links dissociative amnesia with the hippocampus theory, is that they simply do not belong together. The ?hippocampus theory? deals with physical amnesia. The dissociative amnesia theory, deals with psychological amnesia.

    Dr. Samuels diagnosed Jodi Arias as having dissociative amnesia because of the stress that made the hippocampus unable to encode memory. He also clearly stated over and over again that you cannot remember what has not been encoded. ?You can?t remember what?s not there.?

    While once again the big problem here is that people with dissociative amnesia often do regain their memories. Logically speaking this must prove that memories had indeed been encoded by the hippocampus and encoded during a time of stress.

    http://kristinarandle.com/blog/jodi-...estimony-oops/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocopop View Post
    Ok--- to Justice!! & Sneakers
    Tawni is looking into the Doc about putting evidence into his briefcase & Doc writing on evidence while JM's back is turned

    Awesome. I noted it at 2:06 pm PST/AZ time today if that helps!
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    Seriously tho, these poor jurors. Holy CRAP! One guy is holding his head in his hands. They're stuck there without any means of escape. And it's never ending. On and on with so much BS! If anyone ends up with "PTSD" in this trial, it's going to be the jurors. Up to their eyeballs in Jodi's mental nonsense. Week after week with no end in sight. Unbelievably loooooooong side bars.

    Everything is crawling at a snail's pace. It's like we're watching an American hostage crisis under the cover of a murder trial. These jurors are true American heroes. Surely some of them want to rip their hair out. I'd be out of there by now. No way would I have the stamina. This is brutal stuff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morticia View Post
    I know some are questioning whether JM can prove premeditation, but can't she still be convicted of 1st degree because it was "cruel and heinous"?
    I have a question with respect to the fact that, if she does not get 1st degree, she gets 2nd degree or manslaughter (God forbid), the maximum would be 22 years. Would that be applied to the time she has served up to now?

    I am getting concerned she will get away with only manslaughter. No one can prove that Travis did not attack her, in spite of the lies. And the premeditation is starting to harp on me. We all know she stole the gun, but a juror must be certain to give her 1st degree for premeditation.

    When I first heard the case and the fact she carried gas cans, that did it for me. But they are listening to so much other garbage. I don't know anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Awesome. I noted it at 2:06 pm PST/AZ time today if that helps!
    Quote Originally Posted by Cocopop View Post
    Ok--- to Justice!! & Sneakers
    Tawni is looking into the Doc about putting evidence into his briefcase & Doc writing on evidence while JM's back is turned

    Ooops! When he put the evidence in his bag it was just before 2:06 MDS time. Not sure if that's PST/MST or EST
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morticia View Post
    I know some are questioning whether JM can prove premeditation, but can't she still be convicted of 1st degree because it was "cruel and heinous"?
    Nope...1st degree is only premeditated or committed during a felony. The 'cruel and heinous' part comes into play once someone is convicted of 1st degree, during the penalty phase, when the jury must decide on the DP vs LWOP. If the murder was committed in a 'heinous, cruel or depraved manner', that is an aggravating factor towards giving the DP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocopop View Post
    Wow!

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    Is it just me, or does Stabby get uglier by the day?

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    Sneakers .. yeah the ss card was when she saw him with the other girl

    She sure forgets a lot of things at his house. Coincidence? I think not. When does someone leave their SS card at someone's house?

    Oh and Dr Dick, Will you please stop rustling papers on the microphone???? It's soooo annoying!!

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