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    Quote Originally Posted by CKINGJUSTICE View Post
    IMO she is still trying to find any way she can to get a hint across that there was no premeditation. She is not allowed to bring up anything about premeditation but if Doc Dick lets the right words slip out before Juan can object then the jury has heard it. They will be instructed to disregard the comments but it still will have been heard. JMHO please don't anyone hate for it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    no your 100% right, thats the only reason they really called him, to try to get in that it was a crime of passion or rage, and they can't, and now he has screwed up everything even more
    HMmmm ... Very Interesting points

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metis212 View Post
    He is out of his league with this case. Murder is vastly different from medical malpractice and sexual offenders. Totally in over his head. He has very good credentials, in fact they are impressive. I'm betting he has never ever met the likes of JM, never ever not ever. Most likely he can skate on his credentials and knows the literature back and forth with the areas he is comfortable with, but malingering, deception and murder are not his area. In the crimes and criminals he typically deals with there are victims he can interview, so he doesn't have to determine lies. I know this will get me in hot water with the MDS community, but I feel sorry for him. I'm betting he will never do another case like this again.




    I am not surprised that she is taking something. Her blunted affect and lack of any anxiety is indicative of someone taking something. JMHO.

    I, honestly, think this is indicative of the fact that the defense had a tough time finding anyone to legitimately testify on Jodi's behalf. So they picked this guy, in hopes that he could write a report that would favor her. Problem was, they forgot that his testimony would be cross examined....by Juan Martinez, no less. They were fools to try and pull this one over on the jury. As to her blunted affect, I totally agree. I noticed it yesterday, and it's continued throughout today's testimony. She looks "out of it".....slow to respond to what is around her. Half-asleep, compared to her demeanor on prior days. To me, she looks defeated....but medication would definitely make sense. Of course, I'm not sure that it's a good idea, seeing as how they would WANT the jury to see how shaky and traumatized she is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocopop View Post
    All of Doc Dicks interviews w/ JA were conducted behind a barrier & a heavy screen between them, so it would have been impossible for JA to have seen what Doc Dick was writing. <--- This contradicts "WHY" he could have used a tape recorder instead of relying on his writing. He stated didn't tape often because it tends to restrict information given from client, knowing it is being taped, but if he was behind a barrier what was stopping him from taping interviews?
    I think you have to tell the person that you're recording them beforehand? I think....

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    We can actually imagine this trial finally winding down. I'm thinking now Juan won't even need to present a rebuttal case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverClipper View Post
    We can actually imagine this trial finally winding down. I'm thinking now Juan won't even need to present a rebuttal case.
    It feels that way. though he seemed to be setting his rebuttal case up while on cross with Jodi. He defintely needs to solidify in the jurors minds the pre-meditation factor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jillee View Post
    I think you have to tell the person that you're recording them beforehand? I think....
    Hmm.. seems like double standards when JA taped the infamous SEX TAPE when we all know it was never consented to.
    I was trying to see if AZ has a law against it or not?
    Betcha if there were to be a taped recording of JA while in sessions w/ Doc Dick & it would be helpful, then by golly, he'd said he did record it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverClipper View Post
    We can actually imagine this trial finally winding down. I'm thinking now Juan won't even need to present a rebuttal case.
    I hope it starts winding down soon. Look at how aggravated we get with all of it. Can you imagine how the jury must feel? I honestly don't see the case going to the jury until sometime in April, though. This guy should have been off the stand already yet we have another day of him to look forward to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocopop View Post
    Hmm.. seems like double standards when JA taped the infamous SEX TAPE when we all know it was never consented to.
    I was trying to see if AZ has a law against it or not?
    Betcha if there were to be a taped recording of JA while in sessions w/ Doc Dick & it would be helpful, then by golly, he'd said he did record it.
    I have actually done research on this for a work related incident. In Arizona, you are allowed to tape any conversation, as long as 1 person knows that it is being taped. I'm not sure about a Dr(he is NOT)/ patient relationship, but in general, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocopop View Post
    Hmm.. seems like double standards when JA taped the infamous SEX TAPE when we all know it was never consented to.
    I was trying to see if AZ has a law against it or not?
    Betcha if there were to be a taped recording of JA while in sessions w/ Doc Dick & it would be helpful, then by golly, he'd said he did record it.
    The issue really is that Dr. Dick doesn't tape interviews because, according to him, the process of taping inhibits the flow of conversation so he'd rather work the old fashioned way by inconspicuously jotting down notes during the course of the interview. The law/issue of 'consent to be recorded' wouldn't really apply here since Jodi Arias and her Legal Counsel would have signed a blanket consent agreement as a condition of him agreeing to perform the evaluation services. In plain words, Dr. Dick didn't record because he, and he alone, didn't want to and no one can force him to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post
    Looks like a scene out of a vampire movie

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    I thought they kinda looked like they were making out...

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    [QUOTING ANNIEBELLE: also, Jodi testified that she grabbed the gun just as Travis began opening the opposite door....so, how could he have been in the closet, grabbing after Jodi's sweater? And she said she doesn't remember the gun going off. Methinks Doc Dick fucks up a little more with every word that comes out of his mouth!]

    Does the blood spatter in the closet even support that? Where's Dr. Lee when you need him?

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    Okay....so is it WillMONT or WillMOTT?? I'm seeing both and am unsure. (I would say just call her WillMUTT, but that would be an insult to my two beloved dogs that are muts). ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metis212 View Post
    He is out of his league with this case. Murder is vastly different from medical malpractice and sexual offenders. Totally in over his head. He has very good credentials, in fact they are impressive. I'm betting he has never ever met the likes of JM, never ever not ever. Most likely he can skate on his credentials and knows the literature back and forth with the areas he is comfortable with, but malingering, deception and murder are not his area. In the crimes and criminals he typically deals with there are victims he can interview, so he doesn't have to determine lies. I know this will get me in hot water with the MDS community, but I feel sorry for him. I'm betting he will never do another case like this again.
    I thought the same thing--he seems like he's in over his head. The State is only going to put the best prosecuting attorneys on death penalty cases. I doubt he's ever run across anyone as astute as Martinez.

    I don't feel sorry for him, though. He touts himself as an expert in portraying criminal clients in a better light. I love that Martinez ripped him apart...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChelseyDawn View Post
    Okay....so is it WillMONT or WillMOTT?? I'm seeing both and am unsure. (I would say just call her WillMUTT, but that would be an insult to my two beloved dogs that are muts). ;)
    Apparently its Willmott
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    Just to be clear, Mr Samuels said he does not have a doctorate degree during cross examination.

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    Jodi's diary from jail!

    Entry #22

    March 18, 2013

    Dear Diary,

    I am sitting here in court listening to my life be taken away by some bumbling fool who can't keep the simplest of my lies straight. How hard is it? I told Doctor Dildo the same lie like a hundred times. Most of the story is me being in a fog. He only has to remember like, four things. Jennifer is trying to lead him, but honestly, I think this clown needs cue cards or something. I cannot believe he is getting paid $250 per hour. My testimony was 100 times better than his. He is supposed to be the the "trial expert"? If Doctor Dildo gets $250 an hour for that crap fest then I think I should be paid for my testimony. My rate should be at least $300 per hour. I will have to make sure I discuss this with Nurmi immediately.

    I am feeling a Martinez Migraine coming on. I wonder if I should faint or something? I'm trying to go into my trance. It is very disassociative of me. I zone out and look kind of like a zombie. In my head I am traveling a million miles away to my happy place. In my happy place there are mirrors everywhere, so I can see how beautiful I am at all times. There are 24 hour Applebee's and Starbucks on every corner. And there are tons of admirers who adore me without ceasing...and we have buttsecks. Lots and lots of buttsecks.

    Oh crap, what was that? Something just brought me out of my happy place. Of course, it was Fartinez, objecting again. Ugh. I wish he would die already. Hmmmm, I wonder if I have time for a hidden message to the gallery? I am communicating with a certain someone who shall not be named. Let's just say that I have a plan B if things don't go the way I want them to.

    I have come up with a wonderful way of stealing paper from the courthouse. I am really sneaky about it. I take a piece of paper, surreptitiously fold it up and stick it under my thigh. Next I maneuver myself and the paper until the paper is in the back of my pants. Then I do a little wiggle and the paper falls right into my butt hole. When I get back to the jail, I've got several (mostly clean) sheets of paper to draw on. It is such a high to steal paper right there in front of the sheriff deputy and the judge. I just love being deceitful.

    Speaking of deceitful...I will give it to Doctor Dildo. He pulled a really good one on Fartinez today. When his back was turned he was writing in his notebook all the things he was supposed to already have in there. He did it in the nick of time too. It was only a few moments later that the notebook was admitted into evidence officially.

    Oh, what's this? Looks like court is over today. Be back in a few.

    I have a little secret I am dying to share. I have a new LOVE interest in my life. I can't say too much, but I will tell you she is a latina lover that is almost as gorgeous as I am. Today was really erotic. We kept exchanging glances throughout the day. And at the end, we engaged in some whispering...but this was no "vanilla" whispering, it was "sex whispering"! Just thinking about it I get all flushed again. She was bent down really low and I kept putting my cleavage in her face. We got a little carried away and were really close to kissing. At one point, I put my tongue in her ear. No one could tell what was going on! It was so hot. I can hardly wait to get off of this bus and get back to the privacy of my jail cell where I can pleasure myself with both hands. I hope I don't yelp out loud like I did last night. I just get really carried away sometimes. I'm so cute like that! Looks like we are here! Gotta run!

    Till next time,
    Jodi
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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    huh really?

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    Jennifer dedicates her entire practice to defending those charged with
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    i found this about ashley on blink on crime

    Do you remember the girl who called police anonymously and asked that they check into her husband when Travis was found dead? Her name was Ashley Thompson. Her husband was Dustin Thompson. The two of them were getting divorced at that time. (I?m getting all this from the police report.) She was good friends with Travis, and she talked with him about rooming at his house. She and Travis decided it wouldn?t look right (she was Mormon too), so she rented an apartment and moved out of the house she shared with her husband two weeks before Travis? murder. When Travis was murdered, she thought her husband wasn?t acting right at that time. A few weeks later, in a follow up police interview, she admitted that she was the anonymous caller (although the police already knew that), but that she didn?t think her husband had anything to do with it anymore. Well, I read that she died in 2010. After she divorced Dustin, she changed her name back to her maiden name, Ashley Nicole Reed. She was only 28. Her obituary is on EastValleyTribune.com. There wasn?t anything in the obit or in the Mesa news sites that hinted at how she died.

    I?m not saying that Jodi didn?t kill Travis. I just thought it was interesting and I should share it.

    Obit:

    http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/eas...50#fbLoggedOut
    Excellent Work! Thank You!

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    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    I thought they kinda looked like they were making out...
    That's hot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocopop View Post
    Hmm.. seems like double standards when JA taped the infamous SEX TAPE when we all know it was never consented to.
    I was trying to see if AZ has a law against it or not?
    Betcha if there were to be a taped recording of JA while in sessions w/ Doc Dick & it would be helpful, then by golly, he'd said he did record it.
    If it starts with a lie, it won't fly

    I'm talking about Jodi Arias's answers on her psych/evaluation tests.

    You can have it if you want. You must spread some reputation around before, etc.
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    I stand corrected, Mr Samuels DOES have a doctorate. However he doesn't deserve it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lorizfree View Post
    Just to be clear, Mr Samuels said he does not have a doctorate degree during cross examination.
    Huh? Did he say he didn't have a doctorate or that he wasn't a doctor? He lists himself as Richard M. Samuels, Ph.D., FACCS, ABPP.

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    does she exaggerate much?
    Jennifer L. Willmott, JD

    "In 1995 she graduated from Arizona State
    University School of Law. Immediately after graduating from law school,
    Jennifer joined the Maricopa County Public Defender's Office. As a trial
    attorney, Jennifer defended thousands of cases. At the Public Defender's
    Office, Jennifer had the opportunity to defend many different types of
    cases ranging from misdemeanor DUI charges to homicides. Beginning
    in 2001 Jennifer took on the added responsibility of supervising and
    training trial attorneys."

    http://www.willmottlaw.com/attorneys.html

    even if she did one case a week, every week between 1996 and 2001... that's only 364 cases... not "thousands"


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    Quote Originally Posted by McMama View Post
    Huh? Did he say he didn't have a doctorate or that he wasn't a doctor? He lists himself as Richard M. Samuels, Ph.D., FACCS, ABPP.
    Yeah, I caught that. I'll have to look over his testimony again to see what he did say.

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