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Thread: Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

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    So, uh, wouldn't that call into question the professionalness of Doc and the validity of his "diagnosis" if he is sending her gifts?


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    WTF is Donavon up to?
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    He has an absolute bias if he is sending her gifts or conducting anything beyond an evaluation role. He is on her side and can't be testifying objectively. How fucked up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    WTF is all of this about?

    and why is Donovan up talking to the court lady?
    Because evidently the shrink did way more than an evaluation on Jodi. He seemed to have gone to see her and talk to her when she was depressed. That would be considered treatment.

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    Wilmot said "truth", since when is the defense all about "truth"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by acertaingirl View Post
    Let's see..what kind of gifts could Doc Dick have sent?
    KY
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    So, Wilmott is arguing that Martinez is not allowed to ask Doc why he was asked to talk to Jodi? Say what?

    Is Nurmi saying that Doc was retained because Jodi was depressed that Nurmi wanted to quit her defense team, and not because of Jodi's mental state being torn up by what she did to Travis?


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    Flores speaks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    WTF is all of this about?

    and why is Donovan up talking to the court lady?
    i have no idea??? this is just

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    berm - where is your recap - i'm lost on that last part lmao

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    Well, Juan got shot down. Bummed.

    However, he has plenty more ammunition he can use to show what a tool this guy is.

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    flores

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    Hey, lets use PTSD as an excuse for every single thing.
    After Lunch
    Judge leaves and goes to her chambers.
    She returns and asks the lawyers to approach. (1:43 they finally come back)

    Dr. Jr is back on the stand.
    Violent Sexual Predators- He's explaining his experience. He's did 660 cases. (I thought he was going to say 666) He's explaining how NJ is different than AZ. He read lots of books. The family tries to protect the accused. Or cover it up.

    Jodi's diaries-He read them all. She wore rose colored glasses. She was always positive. Jodi told Jr about Travis breaking her finger in Jan 2008.
    EX 456-diary entry from Jodi. "Nothing noteworthy to note"
    She speaks very positive about Travis. This was days after he broke her finger.
    Is that how she always wrote things? Yes, they were always very mild. She was very positive about Travis. Jodi talked to Jr about the Law of Attraction. (state is objecting like crazy)

    Approach (Judge)

    Jr is explaining about the Law of Attraction. (eye roll)

    PTSD- The symptoms are listed in the BOOK (DSM) (or if your like me, just look on WebMD) Now he is going through the checklist again. (I guess he's saying anybody can get it even killers) Jr. think Jodi has low self esteem. She cried out to him.

    Jodi was still in denial and finally shared the true story. He didn't want her to do therapy while he was testing her. (or something like that) PTSD also effects somebody's emotions. There's a disconnect. (I guess he's explaining why she looks and acts so cold) Additional stress can effect them to (Oh, I guess they are trying to explain why she's so bitchy to JM)
    It can confuse them. (sorry, I believe this is all BS.) The voicemail and ninja story was a disconnect for Jodi, said Jr. Her kissing on Ryan after killing Travis is another way of the mind trying to fix the event in their brain. Poor Jodi, she had no one to talk to.
    (I guess Jodi was living in another world) He says that the flowers to the grandmother is another example.

    Tremors and shaking- Jr. noticed them. That's one of the checkmark symptoms to become PTSD. (Now they have to mark the stupid book he has)
    EX 531- Basically a smaller version of the DSM book.
    The dr. remembers that Jodi would shake(BS) and she talked to Jr about how she doesn't like a man yelling at her because it causes her to shake.
    They talk about stage fright. (I'm sure Jodi has no problem with this)

    Crime Scene- He looked at photo and videos.

    JM asks for an approach

    Crime Scene- Is there something about the crime scene that supports you thought of PTSD? There is signs she was in stress. He's aware of all the information...camera, gun, SD card, rope, left camera, and Jr answers YES to all. (Wilmont is trying to get him to tell about blood splatter and JM is objecting saying he is NOT an expert in blood splatter but Wilmont is trying to prove there was a struggle in the hallway......no shit sherlock. The dude was fucking stabbed. He was trying to get the fuck out of there.)

    Approach (judge)

    Crime scene- It was disorganized. Jr admits they found Jodi's hair and handprint on the wall (LOL) Travis was put in the shower.
    What does it take for someone Jodi's size to put Travis in the shower? (State is objecting) Jr says it would take a lot of strength. (Oh, Wilmont just said something bitchy with JM objected. She said "judge, could we not have speaking objections")

    Approach (judge)

    Jr said somebody would have to be strong to move a body under those conditions.
    Jr. said she was in stress, and she was in a fight or flight mode
    No futher questions
    Defense is finished

    JM is up
    Therapy- JM is saying that Jr was hired to do a different type of treatment in this case.
    Objection from Wilmont

    Approach (judge)

    Early recess for jury
    No jury in the room
    Nurmi is saying something about his early withdraw and Jr. Nurmi is saying JM is setting up an unfair trial for Jodi.
    JM wants to play a clip b/c JR is paid by taxpayer money. JM is saying Jr. crossed the line with Jodi (he sent Jodi gifts) and was seeing her in a treatment role.
    Wilmont says there was no therapy involved.
    JM is saying Jr is biased.
    Nurmi says the card was for him, not Jodi.
    JM is saying the card was sent to Jodi to make her feel better. The defense is saying that Jr. did not talk to her about depression and there was no therapy.
    Judge asks JR if he provided therapy for Jodi? NO, of course not.
    Flores has to provide a copy of an interview tomorrow morning.

    Recess

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronsmommy View Post
    THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by acertaingirl View Post
    Let's see..what kind of gifts could Doc Dick have sent?

    Toblerone??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
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    Set of kitchen knives!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvian View Post
    flores

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brillig View Post
    Toblerone??
    Quote Originally Posted by poppym View Post
    Set of kitchen knives!
    aspirin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristinella View Post
    How would a psychiatrist know about her ability to put him in the shower? Wouldn't an expert on that be a fitness trainer or some shit? I like how the Judge overrules it because she wants them to hear his bullshit response.
    I would also assume that Ms. Arias would have adrenaline flowing if she was in the midst of a murderous frenzy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppym View Post
    Seriously...Flores, ME, JM...Loving me some White Knights!

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    Quote Originally Posted by acertaingirl View Post
    Let's see..what kind of gifts could Doc Dick have sent?
    a molded dildo of his penis?
    cinnabons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by acertaingirl View Post
    Let's see..what kind of gifts could Doc Dick have sent?
    Something about a visual of Doctor Dick having the hots for Jodi.....makes me puke a little bit in mah mouth!

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    I wonder if I sent an anonymous box of toblerone bars, pop rocks, tootsie roll suckers, LDS garments, KY, rope, razor blades, and a gun if JA would think it was fan mail...

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    Tho judge stephens seems to be siding with defense I think she's trying to be careful. Last thing she would want to happen is a mistrial. None of us want that.

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    Lol--saw these at TJ Maxx...nom nom nom

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