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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvian View Post
    It looked a bit like she folded it small while staring ahead then pushed it off the side of the desk.

    Her behaviour is very very odd.
    It's too bad the jury can't see things like that. They clearly show that she is not a mousy, shaking, beaten down librarian. She is (as always) a sneaky schemer and a manipulator.

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    I wonder how much longer Dr Dick will be testifying

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justice11 View Post
    I don't think it was last moment. She said she had already told Doc and that is why he wasn't there yet. They are rude and inconsiderate. I hope the judge is aggravated by it as well.
    That is true. She didn't seem aggrivated initially but she very well could be.
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    I wonder how much longer Dr Dick will be testifying
    Hopefully he is close to being done since he isn't talking about premeditation/heat of passion stuff. And JM can start his cross today. I'm hoping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    Agreed. Court could have started on time (at 10:30 MST) if they had informed anyone of this earlier. So did they just decide at the last minute to withdraw the motion?
    While I am not fond of the defense team, to be fair it really is possible that they decided at the last minute to abandon their attempt to get this in (for whatever reason).

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    no court today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justice11 View Post
    I don't think it was last moment. She said she had already told Doc and that is why he wasn't there yet. They are rude and inconsiderate. I hope the judge is aggravated by it as well.
    Ah, I did not hear that bit. That is unprofessional.

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    JM dumping his notes in trash can when approaching

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    Ok, so the defense dropped the motion and Dr. Samuels will not be on the stand. Not sure the reason why exactly yet. #JodiArias


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    He won't be testifying at all today. So where does that leave us? With the DV expert?

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    Just catching up, sorry for an annoying post, but do I understand correctly that there is no need for a hearing because the DT pulled their shit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    That is true. She didn't seem aggrivated initially but she very well could be.


    Hopefully he is close to being done since he isn't talking about premeditation/heat of passion stuff. And JM can start his cross today. I'm hoping.
    There is still the Alyce LaViolette witness so JM is not going to be doing direct for a couple of days if they move at their normal pace, I am thinking. I also had thought it was the defense who wanted to call Dave Hall or enter the video of Travis shooting guns in the desert? I have read a few times that it was the prosecution but I thought it was Nurmi who requested the video after it had been on JVM.

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    What nickname should we give to the domestic violence expert witness, Alyce LaViolette. That name is too darn long to type out every time. She's the one who is "famous" for saying that Snow White was an abused woman.

    She is not a doctor. After her name she has "M.S. and MFCC"; these mean:

    M.S. or M.A. - Masters of Science or Masters of Arts. These are the traditional degrees given by colleges of arts and sciences. In the United States, a master's degree in psychology has not been considered a "terminal degree." A psychologist (other than a school psychologist) generally needs a doctorate to be licensed. Some Canadian provinces license psychologists with a master's degree. A few US states are also beginning to do this.

    M.F.C.C. is used in some states to identify a Marriage, Family, and Child Counselor

    So...any ideas?
    I'm thinking the easy one is ALV, but it is not very creative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post


    JM dumping his notes in trash can when approaching

    Watch to see if Stabby tries to get to the trash can LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by ***JiLL*** View Post
    He won't be testifying at all today. So where does that leave us? With the DV expert?
    He will be testifying, just not about whether or not he can tell if this was a premeditated murder by looking at crime scene photos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doll-Face View Post
    If I read your post wrong, I apologize, but it seemed you were saying the jury was already somehow determining DP at this time and the 3 gas cans wasn't enough. No, they're not, but my point is they are not determining DP at all yet. I agree with you that JM needs to focus more on premeditation to reach 1st Degree. However, there is also Felony Murder to consider. That is also 1st Degree.

    Overall, I'd like to hear more about a motive. Why did she want him dead? Was he an obsession? Was it the last set of text messages/emails? If so, JM should put it together for us. Premeditation will be easier to follow at that time. He needs to be able to bring in the stalking, tire slashing, weird behavior, etc. I am worried because I haven't seen any of this. We can assume a motive, but I really would love to hear more evidence and testimony that supports her obsession with Travis.
    Hello guys, my first post here. I have a question for anyone here who may have the answer to it. Did the jury get to here the 911 call when Alexander's friends found his body? If so, did they hear the part where the female mentioned Jodi's name immediately?

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    Could it be that the defense wanted to distract JM for the weekend by going over what the "expert" was going to say? Maybe they figured he wouldn't have time to put together other questions if he was busy working on what ever they had already decided not to fight with. Does that make sense? It did in my head, but not so much now lol

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    i think he is still testifying, just can't testify whether it was instrumental (premed) or reactive (crime of passion or rage)

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    Sorry, automatic spell check changed, "hear" to "here".

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnieBelle View Post
    The moment when I became convinced that Jodi planned his murder was in listening to her leave the "voicemail" for Travis, on his machine, as she was driving on to Utah.....after she had slaughtered him. There is no way in hell she could have made that up on the fly. That was rehearsed. Her voice is cool, calm. She does not falter in her speech, at all, as she talks about how she's sorry she missed him and blah blah blah. It is cold and calculated. She knew exactly what she was doing. That call was not conducive to the state of mind she claims she was in. It IS right in line with premediated murder, though.
    I was convinced when I heard her on the 'sex' tape. Cancun kept coming up and it was obvious that her brain was spinning as she tried to lay paths for her future cover. Remember how she mentioned seeing Shakespeare during the recorded sex tape? Then she used the same cover in her post murder voice mail to Travis. This premeditation began before she moved back in April. Premeditation layers have been built beautifully by Martinez. Link the evidence together the evidence and reasonable doubt would only be found by the dumbest of jurors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ***JiLL*** View Post
    He won't be testifying at all today. So where does that leave us? With the DV expert?
    Martinez is up to cross examine dr. Samuels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ***JiLL*** View Post
    He won't be testifying at all today. So where does that leave us? With the DV expert?
    Will Dr. Slimey Gus Jr be back for JM to Cross Examine at some point? Wilmott was the only Atty that has questioned him..TIA

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    That is true. She didn't seem aggrivated initially but she very well could be.


    Hopefully he is close to being done since he isn't talking about premeditation/heat of passion stuff. And JM can start his cross today. I'm hoping.
    I think you are right. Hopefully Willmott wraps it up fairly quickly so Martinez can cross examine him. I CAN'T wait for that!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by qtkitycat View Post
    Will Dr. Slimey Gus Jr be back for JM to Cross Examine at some point? Wilmott was the only Atty that has questioned him..TIA
    Yes, he will be!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bayou Queen View Post
    Hello guys, my first post here. I have a question for anyone here who may have the answer to it. Did the jury get to here the 911 call when Alexander's friends found his body? If so, did they hear the part where the female mentioned Jodi's name immediately?
    Welcome!
    I can't remember if they did or not. I am suffering a bit of memory loss brought on by a fog I have been in since Jodi first started sextifying. PTSD. Hopefully someone with a better memory can answer your question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justice11 View Post
    What nickname should we give to the domestic violence expert witness, Alyce LaViolette. That name is too darn long to type out every time. She's the one who is "famous" for saying that Snow White was an abused woman.

    She is not a doctor. After her name she has "M.S. and MFCC"; these mean:

    M.S. or M.A. - Masters of Science or Masters of Arts. These are the traditional degrees given by colleges of arts and sciences. In the United States, a master's degree in psychology has not been considered a "terminal degree." A psychologist (other than a school psychologist) generally needs a doctorate to be licensed. Some Canadian provinces license psychologists with a master's degree. A few US states are also beginning to do this.

    M.F.C.C. is used in some states to identify a Marriage, Family, and Child Counselor

    So...any ideas?
    I'm thinking the easy one is ALV, but it is not very creative.
    I think we should see what she looks like before we name her. ALV can do for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dianalyn View Post
    There is still the Alyce LaViolette witness so JM is not going to be doing direct for a couple of days if they move at their normal pace, I am thinking. I also had thought it was the defense who wanted to call Dave Hall or enter the video of Travis shooting guns in the desert? I have read a few times that it was the prosecution but I thought it was Nurmi who requested the video after it had been on JVM.
    Nurmi wanted Dave Hall's video but then Martinez subpoenaed him as prosecution witness. He would use Dave Hall to counter anything the defense tried to get out of the video.

    It would be hard though, jmo, for the defense to establish a foundation to enter the video as evidence without Dave Hall's testimony as to the where/when/why/how.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post


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    Quote Originally Posted by smurfy View Post
    Could it be that the defense wanted to distract JM for the weekend by going over what the "expert" was going to say? Maybe they figured he wouldn't have time to put together other questions if he was busy working on what ever they had already decided not to fight with. Does that make sense? It did in my head, but not so much now lol
    Actually, I had this exact same thought.

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