Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

[Brillig]

Well they wouldn't have found it if she took it with her and burned it in the desert with everything else (I assume), but you're right about the razor he used in his myspace photo. Also, I googled old fashioned razor kit and the photo results are similar to what I saw on the sink (which would hold a disposable type razor on one side and the shave brush on the other side). Back to the knife theory!

While an old fashioned straight razor "might" have worked to slash his throat, you could not stab someone with it. It is not pointy or sharp at the tip. Plus, because they fold up to close & encase the blade, it would have been super unstable for any motion that put pressure on the tip. Plus, a straight razor would not be long enough to make the throat slash in a single cut (which is what it appears to be).

It had to be a knife.

[NCBlonde]

Did they ever attempt to match the knives found in her luggage when arrested with the stab wounds?

I would assume so. But, as the expert guy said on HLN yesterday (when they were discussing whether the knife could've gone through the dishwasher), that if it had gone through, any dna evidence would've been so degraded you probably couldn't get anything from it. Since I believe that she had her own very sharp knife -- hell she had a specific knife to slash tires with, a regular kitchen knife would NOT do that -- that she brought to the scene, it's very possible she either took it with her and cleaned/kept and it's one of the ones she was later arrested with, or she threw it out with the gun and bought/acquired 2 more knives. Someone said they believed she possibly took the murder knife from Casa Ramos, which being a restaurant would certainly have very sharp knives.

It will be fairly ironic if Stabby ends up convicted and with the DP mainly because of a stupid lie about whether she had 3 gas cans or only 2.

And it is such a POINTLESS lie. I can't see that insisting she only had 2 added to her defense in any meaningful way, yet she insisted on adding the stupid lie about returning the gas can to the Walmart in Salinas. However, if SuperJuan proves that the gas can story is a lie, after Stabby looked that jury right in the face and absolutely insisted with the utmost sincerity that she returned that gas can, then even any pro-Stabby member of the jury will have to know that she is a bold faced liar, and that NONE of her story can be trusted at all.

Case over.

Well, she has to lie about that, because if she admits to 3 gas cans, then she indirectly admits that 2 were not enough to get through Arizona without having to stop and making a recordable transaction. I mean, it's one thing to say you have ONE gas can as an emergency in case you get lost or delayed and come close to running out of gas. Two cans is ridiculous, and 3 is just completely unbelievable. No one gets THAT lost that they have to have 15 extra gallons of gas in their car "just in case".

Another area I don't think was dealt into. No receipt marked, no record of a return said Walmart. But, if she really got cash, and it's not for whatever reason not recorded, wouldn't the returns cashier for that day have a cash box short of that amount of money? Could that be a last resort way of trying to check? If this happened to happen, the cashier would have to pay out of pocket that shortage and he/she would remember. Or at least someone would have noted that.

Yep. It would've been circled on the receipt and initialed by the cashier. They would want to make sure that someone didn't steal another can and try to return it for cash using the same receipt. Apparently Jodi thinks she's smarter than a major corporation like Walmart though. It would definitely be in the system.

Not me. I have a knife block and a small holder for four steak knives. Those are the only places I keep my knives. I would know right away if one of my knives went missing.

Yep, same here. 2 butcher blocks actually. One with serrated-edge knives and one with the straight edge here. The only knives in my kitchen drawer are butter knives. Loony, I can take you a picture if you want.

[Jem]

They (the forensic folk) studied the casing and came up with that the casing landed in the blood,not rolled into it.There would be signs of a blood smear on the casing if it rolled.There was only blood on one side of the casing.I think the shot came last to silence him and put him out of his misery.

If that's what she wanted to do she failed miserably considering she hit him in the face. The shot wasn't fatal.

[AZ-P.I.]

While an old fashioned straight razor "might" have worked to slash his throat, you could not stab someone with it. It is not pointy or sharp at the tip. Plus, because they fold up to close & encase the blade, it would have been super unstable for any motion that put pressure on the tip. Plus, a straight razor would not be long enough to make the throat slash in a single cut (which is what it appears to be).

It had to be a knife.

Travis didn't own a straight razor. Jury questioned her on this and she said it was just a "bic", if you can believe her. Definitely believe she had the knife with her from CA and had used it to slash tires before. Maybe MM sharpened it for her.

[Poppycock]

While an old fashioned straight razor "might" have worked to slash his throat, you could not stab someone with it. It is not pointy or sharp at the tip. Plus, because they fold up to close & encase the blade, it would have been super unstable for any motion that put pressure on the tip. Plus, a straight razor would not be long enough to make the throat slash in a single cut (which is what it appears to be).

It had to be a knife.

A la Sweeney Todd, what a horror that!

[wasthinking]

They (the forensic folk) studied the casing and came up with that the casing landed in the blood,not rolled into it.There would be signs of a blood smear on the casing if it rolled.There was only blood on one side of the casing.I think the shot came last to silence him and put him out of his misery.

The theory on the bullet was Juan's not the forensic folks. He simply asked if they see blood on top and they said no.

[wasthinking]

If that's what she wanted to do she failed miserably considering she hit him in the face. The shot wasn't fatal.

Like putting him OUT of misery was ever killer's thought. Like 27 stabs and slit throat show she is capable of any compassion, wow just wow.

[NCBlonde]

Here are my knife blocks. As you can see, it is very obvious when knives are unaccounted for. If I didn't know they were in the dishwasher, I would easily be able to deem them missing.




All silver in the drawer; nary a stray knife.



In looking at what is available though from the knife set, I think this is likely the type that Jodi used. I think the ME said it was about a 6 inch blade.

[loonywop]

that's true the forensic folks studied it and yea martinez asked the question............

The theory on the bullet was Juan's not the forensic folks. He simply asked if they see blood on top and they said no.

[Brillig]

They (the forensic folk) studied the casing and came up with that the casing landed in the blood,not rolled into it.There would be signs of a blood smear on the casing if it rolled.There was only blood on one side of the casing.I think the shot came last to silence him and put him out of his misery.

I don't think Stabby cared one bit about putting him out of his misery, however, I do think the gunshot was last, and I do think she most likely did it because TA was "making noises" that she either found disturbing or infuriating ("die, damn you!!"). Possibly both. Someone struggling to breathe with their throat slashed all the way to the spinal cord would presumably make some very gruesome noises.

[loonywop]

putting someone out of the misery doesn't show compassion it was for her and her alone.

Like putting him OUT of misery was ever killer's thought. Like 27 stabs and slit throat show she is capable of any compassion, wow just wow.

[loonywop]

from the ME descripion of the wounds and the sizes 5 inches long(insized) and 1 1/2 inches wide the knife would be more like that of a pairing knife.The knife you show is at least 2 inches wide and would make a wound much wider than the ME's description especially going in and comming out.an insized wound can tell the ME a basic size of the knife

Here are my knife blocks. As you can see, it is very obvious when knives are unaccounted for. If I didn't know they were in the dishwasher, I would easily be able to deem them missing.




All silver in the drawer; nary a stray knife.



In looking at what is available though from the knife set, I think this is likely the type that Jodi used. I think the ME said it was about a 6 inch blade.

[wasthinking]

from the ME descripion of the wounds and the sizes 5 inches long(insized) and 1 1/2 inches wide the knife would be more like that of a pairing knife.The knife you show is at least 2 inches wide and would make a wound much wider than the ME's description especially going in and comming out.an insized wound can tell the ME a basic size of the knife

Too much tv maybe? The ME would not say, and said he couldn't say other than, 'it was a sharp instrument'.

[loonywop]

noTV.common sence deductions. the ME states the size of each wound ,which were insized which were cuts whick were blunt force frontal wounds.A 2 inch wide knife wound not make a 1 inch wide insized wound

Too much tv maybe? The ME would not say, and said he couldn't say other than, 'it was a sharp instrument'.

[Kristinella]

As a survivor of a straight razor to a tendon, I could see it being used to go deep enough and smooth to be used in one clean slice across the neck. Since Jodi was packing knives before she was arrested, I wouldn't be surprised if she had one of those as well. That, along with the small gun would be easy to conceal.

[Blah28]

I don't think Stabby cared one bit about putting him out of his misery, however, I do think the gunshot was last, and I do think she most likely did it because TA was "making noises" that she either found disturbing or infuriating ("die, damn you!!"). Possibly both. Someone struggling to breathe with their throat slashed all the way to the spinal cord would presumably make some very gruesome noises.

I'm thinking she did the stabbing and the shooting to make it look like two people killed him. I'm guessing he could have lingered a bit after the stab to the heart, but I don't see him lasting that long, and definatelty not after that neck slash.
With the amount of stabbing plus the gunshot how would anyone suspect that one "120lb" woman could have done all of that?
JMHO
Who knows...

[luvit]

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OK FOLKS, HERE IS THE INFO : FIRST PLEASE DONT SEND ME HATE MAIL, I REFUSE TO ANSWER ANYMORE.

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THESE ARE DOODLES MADE BY ARIAS IN COURT ON JAN 9TH 2013. USED WHAT LOOKS TO BE BLACK AND WHITE PEN ON LINED PAPER.

THE CONTENTS OF THE DRAWING ARE INTERESTING AND UNIQUE.

THERE IS A HEART THAT LOOKS BROKEN & WHAT I AM TOLD ARE MORMON SYMBOLS AND SNOW WHITE (with a 2 tears on face) WITH A BLACK EYE WHICH I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT THAT MEANS!

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[Brillig]

Depends on what photos you want : )

Extremely graphic autopsy http://s1321.beta.photobucket.com/user/arizonavjodiarias/library/Body

house http://s193.beta.photobucket.com/use...is%20Alexander

And HLN and Huffington Post both have large picture libraries.

Yikes! I had not seen the hallway pics before (I assume they are of the hallway). Are those stains from blood literally running down the walls?!? Or did someone just have trouble with their faux wall painting technique? (I pray it is the latter, but fear it is the former).

Not sure which ones you mean but, if it is the empty house ones, keep in mind those are after the crime scene was worked and you are probably seeing luminol type stains.
There were crime scenes pics with blood dripping and smear down the walls. try this one for the actual 'crime scene' pics.
http://s1352.beta.photobucket.com/us.../Crime%20scene

Thank you very much, wasthinking, for the links.

Yes, I was looking at the empty house pics, and they were of the hallway. I'm still not clear if that is blood stain dripping down the walls, or if luminol caused them. Both seem possible.

[wasthinking]

noTV.common sence deductions. the ME states the size of each wound ,which were insized which were cuts whick were blunt force frontal wounds.A 2 inch wide knife wound not make a 1 inch wide insized wound

slit a throat 4" deep ear to ear in one slice with a paring knife is common sense? okay then

[Jem]

Who the fuck would pay 900 bucks for this piece of shit?

[OnehundredCats]

THIS WAS SENT TO ME FROM SOMEONE IN THE ARIAS CAMP, THIS WAS GIVEN TO THEM .
THESE ARE DOODLES MADE BY ARIAS IN COURT ON JAN 9TH 2013. USED WHAT LOOKS TO BE BLACK AND WHITE PEN ON LINED PAPER.

Well, at least now we know what she is always furiously writing during the trial. I wonder when Wilmott's drawings will be released. Appears she has been doing an awful lot of drawing this trial.

[luvit]

Agreed, and there were 10 bids.

[luvit]

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[wasthinking]

Thank you very much, wasthinking, for the links.

Yes, I was looking at the empty house pics, and they were of the hallway. I'm still not clear if that is blood stain dripping down the walls, or if luminol caused them. Both seem possible.

scroll down a ways and you get the hall pics from the crime scene but I think a lot of the dripping you see in the empty house is from the luminol.
http://s1352.beta.photobucket.com/us.../Crime%20scene



http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/...psf36884d4.jpg
http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/...psb36125ce.jpg

[NCBlonde]

slit a throat 4" deep ear to ear in one slice with a paring knife is common sense? okay then

Exactly. Also Travis wouldn't have deep defensive wounds from a paring knife. She used a butcher knife or something very similar.