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Thread: Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggie View Post
    Man, you guys are taking a beating today.
    i just believe in the justice system oh btw have you reported donavan missing yet??? we have been worried

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggie View Post
    Man, you guys are taking a beating today.
    not at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    I hope JM visits each of these with Dr. Show Me the Money Samuels.

    Denial? Did I just hear the good Dr. say he thinks Stabby was in DENIAL? Please see NCBlonde's post above.

    When he talks of reading her journals he realizes of course, doesn't he, that she spent NINETEEN DAYS on the stand stating that she didn't write down negative thoughts due to the Law of Attraction?
    ^^ BRAVO ^^
    did Doc get to read the torn out pages of negativity

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    Easily woken up by noises in jail....Poor chicky babe I feel for her...Nottttttttttttttttttttt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    and she had her defense walls so high for soooo long that it only took 2 visits to have a complete breakthrough ?
    She had ready read the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders and studied up.

    Quote Originally Posted by NCBlonde View Post
    Ohhh he read her diaries to come to these conclusions? The dairies where it's proven that she outright lied; including lying about killing Travis? Well, surely then Jodi's words are good evidence. Yeah, there goes his credibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBlonde View Post
    Okay, I can't remember exactly what he said, but something about not wanting to relive or even talk about the event. Ummm, Jodi actually threw herself into the middle of the investigation. She called the police and tried to get involved. Hell, she had someone drive her past the scene of the crime not long after (was it Travis' memorial or something?) Yeah, she was REAL traumatized by the murder, that she wanted to view crime scene photos and call the detectives and drive by Travis' house.
    I was just about to say the same thing. He just said it took Jodi several years to admit to herself what she did. NOT true. she admits that she knew what she did and called up Flores, sent flowers, attended the memorial, etc. to try to COVER for what she KNEW she did.

    Quote Originally Posted by CreepyGus View Post
    LOL, "we call it denial"

    Pretty much describes every single person in prison!
    Yep. Looks maybe this guy will pick up a few new clients after testifying in this high profile case. Good for him.

    Quote Originally Posted by NCBlonde View Post
    Ohhh he read her diaries to come to these conclusions? The dairies where it's proven that she outright lied; including lying about killing Travis? Well, surely then Jodi's words are good evidence. Yeah, there goes his credibility.
    I don't even know what to say to this. It is all just so ridiculous.

    I KNOW that the defense HAS to do this. I don't blame them so much. But to have an "expert" come on and say all of this....ugh. It just disgusts me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnieBelle View Post
    Okay...okay. So, IF what he is saying is true, and that Jodi had this great extended period of denial.....WHY is it that Jodi has testified that she lied to try and keep from being arrested for as long as she could? Hmmmmmm???
    Wonder what he thinks about comporting a story to fit the forensics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andreanna View Post
    Not necessarily. Money is a powerful motivator and wonder how much testimony is skewed to be sold in one way or another versus telling the whole story for the sake that paycheck. I'm sure I it happens way more than anyone would like to admit.
    I don't know how it works with criminal trials, but I have some experience with how it works with civil trials. Experts are hired to evaluate the information and render an opinion. It doesn't matter what opinion they give (it could help your case or hurt it), they still get paid for the evaluation.

    If they do agree with you, they get hired to testify at trial. Then, of course, they get paid more, but most experts do not want to skew to one side or another, they want to give an honest opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    i just believe in the justice system oh btw have you reported donavan missing yet??? we have been worried
    Maybe that IS Donovan?

    But yeah, no one's taking a beating with this testimony. It's opinion-based from a hired defense hand, whereas Jodi's finger/palm prints at the scene, the murder photos, the timeline of less than 2 minutes are FACTUAL EVIDENCE.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    i just believe in the justice system oh btw have you reported donavan missing yet??? we have been worried
    Quote Originally Posted by biggie View Post
    Man, you guys are taking a beating today.
    I am VERY concerned. I might start calling hospitals to see if she had a bad reaction to her chemo.
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    This guy. He is finding additional criteria while he is on the stand testifying? And he is writing it in his book??? Oh come on? Is this really happening? Am I suddenly in crazy land?
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    Poor Jodi. She murdered Travis so now she has trauma that she can't remember. We should all feel sorry for her. Thats what I'm getting from this testimony.

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    JM is going to have a field day with this policeman/soldier analogy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    She is annoying the crap out of me with her 'um's and 'okay?'s!
    I know, she dreadful! And what does she mean by "Okay!" and "Alright!"

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    I would like to ask the good Dr. how he would explain the cover-up message left to Travis that night (June 4th) by JA and the BS stories she gave the police afterwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justice11 View Post
    This guy. He is finding additional criteria while he is on the stand testifying? And he is writing it in his book??? Oh come on? Is this really happening? Am I suddenly in crazy land?

    Hell, Stabby changed her story about the gun FOUR times. Also added in a holster and then took away the holster. What's an additional criteria in a diagnoses that is fake between friends?
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    yep - thats what they are doing - they are trying to remove premeditation, to get a lesser charge - thats why they are using crime and homicide in these articles

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    Studies showing PTSD in individuals who perpetrate crime? Then they go on, again, to cite police officers and soldiers?

    Hmmm no sorry but there's a big difference between a cop killing a criminal and Jodi slashing Travis to death.

    Nice of him to sneak in that mentally ill thing, "although I'm not saying she's mentally ill..." Sure.


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    This round of "Who is the bigger whore" is brought to you by the new Party Size (TM) version of KY Personal Lubricant, now available in watermelon and strawberry flavors. And now, let's play...

    Who is the bigger whore?

    1. Give me money and I will tell a jury that Jodi Arias caught PTSD from stabbing Travis


    2. Give me a Toblerone and you can jizz on my face

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    He just said it....Miss Arias is the perpetrator of a horrendous crime".

    Case done. Let's all go home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CreepyGus View Post
    JM is going to have a field day with this policeman/soldier analogy!
    that i am not worried about - i don't think that will go over well with jury at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppym View Post
    I know, she dreadful! And what does she mean by "Okay!" and "Alright!"
    It could be worse, by listening to Nurmi cross the Doc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agus View Post
    I would like to ask the good Dr. how he would explain the cover-up message left to Travis that night (June 4th) by JA and the BS stories she gave the police afterwards.
    Oh, I'm sure he would use the whole "denial" and "detachment" theories.

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    I'm ready for Juan to question him now. Come on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChelseyDawn View Post
    All along, I've felt that Jodi did her research on the symptoms and signs of someone with PTSD and abused women. Her answers and behavior are far too "textbook" - it is unnatural. It is extremely RARE that someone meets all diagnosis criteria and I think that shows how suspect her behavior is. She has studied it and is ACTING accordingly!
    Oh, absolutely. With the help of her defense attorneys. This is their entire defense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    i just believe in the justice system oh btw have you reported donavan missing yet??? we have been worried
    I am admittedly skeptical of our justice system. There are wayyyy too many sketchy attorneys, clients, and jurors out there. (Not to mention sketchy judges, and "exert" witnesses.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Wishmich View Post
    Wonder what he thinks about comporting a story to fit the forensics.
    Well, he is working HIS story to fit with the defense, so I am sure he would agree with Jodi doing that. He is in fact HELPING her do this.

    Quote Originally Posted by NCBlonde View Post
    Maybe that IS Donovan?

    But yeah, no one's taking a beating with this testimony. It's opinion-based from a hired defense hand, whereas Jodi's finger/palm prints at the scene, the murder photos, the timeline of less than 2 minutes are FACTUAL EVIDENCE.
    I agree with you 100%.

    I am personally aggravated, obviously, but I am not worried. Juan will cross and set a few things straight. Also, his rebuttal will set the rest straight.

    P.S...I NEVER feed the trolls. I'd rather they starve and have to leave and find better feeding grounds.
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