Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

[wasthinking]

you don't care what the punishment is? would you feel ok w/ 5 years and moving in next door and dating a member of your family?

there are 2 losers - the diff is travis had no choice - jodi had every choice and she chose to take his life, so i have no sympathy for her ruining her life

Heck, why next door? Screw it, save the state money and move all the killers into know it all's house. Fill the dishwasher with knives, the closet with guns. No harm, they know everything; what everyone should do, how everyone should be, how everyone should feel .. hell, they can't see past their all about me anyway so it should work out well.

[loonywop]

Oh, now you want to claim compassion for the family, the same family you were kicking like a dog the other day. Jodi, is that you?

I wasn't claiming compassion for the family nor was I kicking them while they are down you put those words in my mouth and it's double speak.All I said was they were not close.Read ....for knowledge is king ......but then again you "wasthinking"

[loonywop]

Heck, why next door? Screw it, save the state money and move all the killers into know it all's house. Fill the dishwasher with knives, the closet with guns. No harm, they know everything; what everyone should do, how everyone should be, how everyone should feel .. hell, they can't see past their all about me anyway so it should work out well.

who's the know it all now?

[I doubt it]

Hi, welcome. I am new too. I agree that there are a sharp bunch of tacks here. Trying to catch up on posting so I can post. Getting ready for testimony tomorrow and can't wait to see what Juan has up his sleeve. Once court starts tomorrow, everyone here will be posting big time.

Welcome scorpio and gigiann. Great idea to catch up before you start posting.

[wasthinking]

I wasn't claiming compassion for the family nor was I kicking them while they are down you put those words in my mouth and it's double speak.All I said was they were not close.Read ....for knowledge is king ......but then again you "wasthinking"

That isn't all you said. Of course you weren't claiming compassion... psst, you just got punked!

[Ron_NYC]

And as a final good-night, it was mentioned just a while back that Travis Alexander 'Manscaped." Just a couple of pages later, a very nice long-haul truckers wife revealed to us that her husband did the same. She also added the codicil that once her husband started the practice he had to keep doing it because the regrowth of hair in those parts causes severe itchiness that is almost unbearable.

Question? Why does Mr. Nurmi keep scratching his junk in court?

I leave you with that delectable image.

Until tomorrow! Good night.

It's 2013. Are there still people that don't shave their junk? I'm talking male and/or female here.

Did you mean Nurmi just shaved his junk?

Also, who is Nurmi?

[wasthinking]

who's the know it all now?

Not me, I still have questions.

How old are you 5? Are you peeling labels off gas cans as we speak too?

[gigiann]

Exactly kimi! Why not just say those were injuries i apparently got during the stabbing. Why be so headstrong and stubborn that her finger got cut at work? (eye roll)

[Dimple blossom]

Your irony is rich! Hello ... YOU wouldn't qualify for this jury.

This is a forum, an internet gathering, not a court of law. Kind of scary you don't seem to know the difference.
You might want to learn a little about this wonderful land's Constitution! No where does the United States Constitution say 'innocent until proven guilty".
You might want to study the fifth amendment first. Just saying.
" no person shall "be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law"

Slasher is getting her "due process". AZ doesn't care what you think, their law includes the death penalty. For anyone that doesn't like that, I'd suggest not to committ a murder in AZ.

Hell fuckin YES! Love this, just love it! Yeah, it's pretty simple, don't murder someone then one wouldn't have to be in court, period. Jodi made the choice to slaughter TA and now she can pay.

[gigiann]

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( This comment totally crack me up by the way) I can't even remove those darn stickers from items they have to be removed from--- why the heck is that guy so concerned about removing a price tag from a gas can? God forbid a smelly gas can that's been handled by a greasemonkey, stored in a garage be defaced by a stubborn sticky price tag?

[marycontrary]

the biggest problem with Jodi is you can't earn back credibility once the lies started. Does she need to be punished ........abso-fuckin -lutely but I don't give a rat's ass what that punishment is.To many people are using this case as their own entertainment and that's sorry to see. 2 people's lives are over, 2 family's will never be the same and there are no winners here .

I do give a rat's ass. She deserves the DP. Plain and simple. LWOP provides her with social interactions with other prisoners, she can get married and in some prisons have conjugal visits. She will be queen of the block, creating chaos for people who actually have a chance at rehabilitation. Rules were not meant for her and she won't follow them in prison either. DP provides her with no social interaction. I hope she dies a natural death on death row.

Can't see the entertainment factor in her in watching her spin her tales and making shit up on the fly? I would feel differently if she would just fess up and say have pity on me because i'm defective.

[Harlette]

It's 2013. Are there still people that don't shave their junk? I'm talking male and/or female here.

Did you mean Nurmi just shaved his junk?

Also, who is Nurmi?

all the guys i know shave and the girls wax

[marycontrary]

[I doubt it]

I struggle with that too. Perhaps, giving into her sexually was a way to pacify her. Maybe she was the one who needed sex to de-stress. If you think about it too much, you come to realize there would never be a happy ending for Travis. If he pushed her away, she just increased her crazy behavior. If he married her, she would be a horrible wife with all her insecurity and neediness. If he married someone else, she would still be around...stirring up trouble and tempting him with sex.

The DV experts say the abused have a hard time leaving the abuser. Travis was the one abused.

[Dimple blossom]

yea I'm not as emotially involved as you Harlette.She could never afford where I live so I'm safe and as far as dating a member of my family I have a great dane puppy....does that count?I would have no problem with her moving into your neighborhood and dating one of your family though. And sorry hun Travis did have a choice.One would have been to start a paper trail with the police 5 -6 what 25 times ?that has a way of backing people off .He chose not to why? Why after being a 30 year old virgin did he give it up for her? why?To question that questions his judgement no? Why Jodi? ya got me? ,she ain't all that but hey if he was my friend I would of been as long as he makes my buddy happy.No one is asking you for sympathy especially me.

Totally random but I just got to ask....is this Shaycarl from the "Shaytards" on Youtube? I apologize in advance if I'm wrong.

[songbirdsong]

I struggle with that too. Perhaps, giving into her sexually was a way to pacify her. Maybe she was the one who needed sex to de-stress. If you think about it too much, you come to realize there would never be a happy ending for Travis. If he pushed her away, she just increased her crazy behavior. If he married her, she would be a horrible wife with all her insecurity and neediness. If he married someone else, she would still be around...stirring up trouble and tempting him with sex.

I'd be surprised if JM doesn't locate emails or texts with her threatening to kill herself if she didn't get her way with Travis. I mean, that seems to be her M.O. How many times has she mentioned the ol' suicidal cloud since this trial began?

What I don't get if someone that you think flattens your tires-why let them in.

As much as I think Jodi was behind that, they never actually proved it was her. It was suggested that it might have been Lisa's (?) ex-boyfriend, who had a temper problem. Also...she apparently doesn't need an invitation as long as there's a doggy door she can use.

Bombshell! Sean boy over at the JAII site has broken this gas can debacle wide open!!! He is doing some serious serial posting over there and doesn't feel like he is getting heard. I thought I'd help him out here.

Sean boy says:
I'm not saying if Fartinez has a record from wal mart or not . I would still fire nurmi seeing that I'm not looking good at this point plus all the negatives of nurmi. It would DEFENITLY change things around and this trial may go her way . I guess what I'm trying to day is this. At this point if they want to kill me I would do anything and everything to save my life. It's not looking good for jodi , she needs to do something now.

Does this guy realize how many times Nurmi's tried to jump ship? He's already made $225/hr for countless agonizing hours. He'd probably love nothing more than to be fired from this freakshow.

And wow, seanboy is an impressive serial poster. He should come on over so we can see which noob can make the most posts in a short period of time.

It's good your not on as jury or a judge where being unbiased is truly the justice people should be getting when all the facts are in.Your making a ruling now or as it seems way earlier is irrasponcible.I'm not a Jodi supporter as you claim I'm a justice supporter and our great land of law it's innocent"until proven guilty" does that happen before all the FACTS are in? No, for you to be on the guility team now means yea your on the guilty team and if you have jersey's and cookouts on the weekends show just how nonchalantly you take our great system and the death penalty.I'm not deflecting in the least in fact what I'm doing is taking it all in and when it's all in then is where I make my decision.For you to be in a guility position now means you can no longer be influenced of any fact that doesn't serve you .Going back to your "Jodi supporter " comment ,I don't transcribe to sociaty taking a life .I do feel that letting her sit in jail till her body gives out is far worse punishment because a mind alway's works and that can be torture knowing you will never see anything you have expierenced ever again.I do feel she will get LWOP but if she doesn't I won't feel any loss.Will you while your at your cookout with your Death Penalty t-shirt on ?lol

There's a difference between having a civic duty to determine a person's innocence or guilt vs. having a lively (admittedly one-sided) debate as outsiders looking in. If any of us was a judge or jury member, then you're right--this type of exchange would be extremely irresponsible if not illegal. They have an obligation to disregard emotional responses. I think most (some?) of us would make an effort to view this case from a more objective view if we were called upon to do so.

I know Casey Anthony comparisons are played out, but it's a good example of emotion vs. evidence. Many of the jurors were absolutely devastated when they had to return a "Not Guilty" verdict, saying they received death threats, became physically ill, and that it will haunt them for years to come. A few said that she was a "horrible" person. They were thinking the same things we were, only they couldn't get all sassy and indignant in a discussion board.

The DV experts say the abused have a hard time leaving the abuser. Travis was the one abused.

Yep. I think the defense's witness is going to get on the stand and basically describe what qualifies as abuse in the relationship---except she'll be working with Jodi and Travis' roles switched. She MIGHT be able to point out some things that could actually be considered abusive, but only to a slight (less than slight?) degree. Then JM will cross and show everyone that Travis fits the victim role more completely than Jodi does.

And it will be glorious.

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Question: When the trial's back on, is it cool if we live post in this thread or does it go to chit chat? I usually uphold the less-is-more approach but it's so exciting when we're all fired up and seeing the same thing.

AND I wonder if they will ever release all of their emails and messages? I remember hearing that they had tens of thousands of communications between them. That's a fucklot considering they only knew each other for like two years and dated for 4 months?

[bermstalker]

Can someone clarify this for me? Did Arias buy the case gan with cash??

If so, a caller on Jane Velz-Mitchell, called that specific Wallmart and asked about return policy. First, they told her that a receipt was required for a return. And secondly, they would mark return through the item.

I am not sure the store would refund in cash, if she used a credit card. I don't know..

Most stores credit your credit card back if you return something within a few hours. If it's days later, they may give you cash back. I guess it depends on your store

They do sometimes refund cash if it is a debit card, at least my Walmart has. They ALWAYS mark through the item to show that it was returned. Nowadays they actually take your id as well and notate it in the computer with the receipt number. I also saw in a post 1,000 or so pages back someone said that they do not take Kerosene cans back. IDK if that is true or not.

Yeah, I'm not sure they take Kerosene cans back. IDK for sure. If it was just a few minutes later, they may have taken it back.
We were without electricity once. We had 3 generators going. Husband sent me to Walmart to buy 2 more gas cans. Walmart was out, but I came back with the 2 kerosene cans. My hubby was pissed that I bought them. Walmart wouldn't take them back due to compliance issues about the chemicals and hazmat stuff,etc... My husband got a marker and marked all over them "GAS" and would kind of hide when he would fill them up. When we would fill the generators up, he always made me use up the blue cans first. As soon as our electricity came back-he got rid of the blue cans.

I didn't get what the big deal was, but he explained that it could screw some stuff up. Plus, red is the LEGAL color for gas. When I worked at the at store, we were told to cut the pump off if we seen somebody using the wrong container.

By listening to the 200+ questions that the jury had for Jodi, I am NOT getting the sense that the jury is wanting to believe her. I believe that they probably went into this task, believing her innocent until proven guilty. But the evidence the DA has presented and, certainly, the weeks that they have spent listening to Jodi and observing her....I believe they have a lot of doubt planted in their minds about how much she can be believed.

I actually think there is one or two jurors that have some questions about the whole state's case.
If Matt doesn't get put on the stand-there are going to be more questions and doubts.
If jurors are asking over 200+ questions and more are added all the time-there are doubts in that jury box.

What I don't get if someone that you think flattens your tires-why let them in.

Booty. Seriously, it's been the downfall of many, many men since the beginning of time.

I do give a rat's ass. She deserves the DP. Plain and simple. LWOP provides her with social interactions with other prisoners, she can get married and in some prisons have conjugal visits. She will be queen of the block, creating chaos for people who actually have a chance at rehabilitation. Rules were not meant for her and she won't follow them in prison either. DP provides her with no social interaction. I hope she dies a natural death on death row.

Can't see the entertainment factor in her in watching her spin her tales and making shit up on the fly? I would feel differently if she would just fess up and say have pity on me because i'm defective.

Even if she gets DP-the chances of her dying quick are slim to none. Jodi has a great chance of winning an appeal due to her attorney-or lack of one.

[I doubt it]

Most stores credit your credit card back if you return something within a few hours. If it's days later, they may give you cash back. I guess it depends on your store


Yeah, I'm not sure they take Kerosene cans back. IDK for sure. If it was just a few minutes later, they may have taken it back.
We were without electricity once. We had 3 generators going. Husband sent me to Walmart to buy 2 more gas cans. Walmart was out, but I came back with the 2 kerosene cans. My hubby was pissed that I bought them. Walmart wouldn't take them back due to compliance issues about the chemicals and hazmat stuff,etc... My husband got a marker and marked all over them "GAS" and would kind of hide when he would fill them up. When we would fill the generators up, he always made me use up the blue cans first. As soon as our electricity came back-he got rid of the blue cans.

I didn't get what the big deal was, but he explained that it could screw some stuff up. Plus, red is the LEGAL color for gas. When I worked at the at store, we were told to cut the pump off if we seen somebody using the wrong container.



I actually think there is one or two jurors that have some questions about the whole state's case.
If Matt doesn't get put on the stand-there are going to be more questions and doubts.
If jurors are asking over 200+ questions and more are added all the time-there are doubts in that jury box.



Booty. Seriously, it's been the downfall of many, many men since the beginning of time.



Even if she gets DP-the chances of her dying quick are slim to none. Jodi has a great chance of winning an appeal due to her attorney-or lack of one.

Good morning Bermstalker!
Jodi paid for the kerosene can with cash, someone uploaded the receipt a couple of pages back. Some joker on JAII was claiming he takes them back to Wal-mart all the time, he just rips off the UPC sticker. Putting gas in a blue can would have made Jodi conspicuous at the very least, according to your experience. My husband would agree with yours.

I think Travis was addicted to Jodi as an abuse victim would be. We'll probably see JM turn the tables on the defense experts with that.

[Freethinker]

Before this thread takes off later today, tell me about Darryl Brewer. How come he testified with no facial identity? He sounded honest,but hesitated about the gas can loaning. It still didn't make sense her driving way out of the way to "borrow" cans. Didn't he question her about how she was to get the cans back to him?Why would he even accept her answer about her planned trip? He might be honest, but this is a puzzling part to me.

[bermstalker]

Good morning Bermstalker!
Jodi paid for the kerosene can with cash, someone uploaded the receipt a couple of pages back. Some joker on JAII was claiming he takes them back to Wal-mart all the time, he just rips off the UPC sticker. Putting gas in a blue can would have made Jodi conspicuous at the very least, according to your experience. My husband would agree with yours.

I think Travis was addicted to Jodi as an abuse victim would be. We'll probably see JM turn the tables on the defense experts with that.

Oh yeah. That's right. She did pay cash.
I don't get why people are calling Walmart now to see if they return certain things. That's crazy. Cashiers are all different. Some follow store policies to the dot and some don't.

I understand why the state or def wants the information-but not regular people. If it's against store policy, that's what Walmart is going to say to anybody that calls.

I love to follow cases, but if it means calling places and being an armchair cop searching for clues- uh, that is just strange as hell to me. If it doesn't come up on google or wayback machine-then I just say F it.
I question the dude's mental state if he is actually returning cans to walmart to see if he can.....b/c of this case.

ETA: Good morning to everyone!

[I doubt it]

Before this thread takes off later today, tell me about Darryl Brewer. How come he testified with no facial identity? He sounded honest,but hesitated about the gas can loaning. It still didn't make sense her driving way out of the way to "borrow" cans. Didn't he question her about how she was to get the cans back to him?Why would he even accept her answer about her planned trip? He might be honest, but this is a puzzling part to me.

Jodi was with Daryl for 4 years. They bought a house together. He is 20 years older than her, divorced and has a son. That's why he didn't want to show his face, because of the kid. Did he whisper. "I'm sorry" after he admitted to lending her the cans?
Jodi went to the Monterey area to see Matt, another old boyfriend, as well as the stop at Daryl's.
IMO she also picked up some cash for booty at both stops.

[Lilangiepangie]

It's good your not on as jury or a judge where being unbiased is truly the justice people should be getting when all the facts are in.Your making a ruling now or as it seems way earlier is irrasponcible.I'm not a Jodi supporter as you claim I'm a justice supporter and our great land of law it's innocent"until proven guilty" does that happen before all the FACTS are in? No, for you to be on the guility team now means yea your on the guilty team and if you have jersey's and cookouts on the weekends show just how nonchalantly you take our great system and the death penalty.I'm not deflecting in the least in fact what I'm doing is taking it all in and when it's all in then is where I make my decision.For you to be in a guility position now means you can no longer be influenced of any fact that doesn't serve you .Going back to your "Jodi supporter " comment ,I don't transcribe to sociaty taking a life .I do feel that letting her sit in jail till her body gives out is far worse punishment because a mind alway's works and that can be torture knowing you will never see anything you have expierenced ever again.I do feel she will get LWOP but if she doesn't I won't feel any loss.Will you while your at your cookout with your Death Penalty t-shirt on ?lol

Wow, your name says it all. Loony is right. Maybe you should discuss this with the JAII site. They seem like more of your people...they can't spell and are nuts. Wow.

[Sylvian]

Jodi was with Daryl for 4 years. They bought a house together. He is 20 years older than her, divorced and has a son. That's why he didn't want to show his face, because of the kid. Did he whisper. "I'm sorry" after he admitted to lending her the cans?
Jodi went to the Monterey area to see Matt, another old boyfriend, as well as the stop at Daryl's.
IMO she also picked up some cash for booty at both stops.

Agree with you here, I think she used sex as a way to manipulate and get what she actually wanted.
When she talks about sex and not enjoying it, to extent I think that's true. I think it was a means to an end.

[bermstalker]

For the new people joining in.

The trial will either start at 10am or 10:30am (not sure which). That is MST. (If you are EST-it will start at 1 or 1:30pm)
Here is a map for the city time zone compared with Mesa. Look for your area and it tells you how many hours ahead you are of Mesa's time.
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldcloc...ce.html?p1=853
They also show the trial on HLN (Headline News) They pause during commercials (and there are a lot of them) so you shouldn't miss any coverage.
If you missing anything, you can watch on Tawnidilly's youtube channel that I posted below.

Links for live feeds.
http://www.azfamily.com/home/Watch-L...185415702.html
http://wildabouttrial.com/videos/jod...ve-stream.html
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/20...al-livestream/

Mobile apps for live stream
http://q.belo.com/shared/mobappdir/i...mily&wrapper=y

Watch the trial on you mobile device
? To watch live video of the Arias trial on your iPhone or iPad, just download the appropriate free app from iTunes. Once the app is installed, just scroll down to the Live Video tile. Tap it to start the stream.
? To watch on Android devices, download the free Ustream app from Google Play. In the Ustream app, click the Search button. Search for azfamily. Tap the the 3TV thumbnail and then click play.

Just a FYI-There are two screen in AZ family for watching it live. You have this link that shows twitter comments during the trial
http://www.azfamily.com/home/Watch-L...185415702.html
You also have the option of scrolling down the page to get the bigger screen. You also have this other screen on AZ family. Usually if the one above gets overloaded, this one works great.
http://www.azcentral.com/community/m...ive-video.html


Itunes app
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wild...530043712?mt=8

A collection of links in this case (facebooks, videos, news sites, pictures, etc..)
https://sites.google.com/site/jodiariastrial/

Photos of the crime scene
http://s193.beta.photobucket.com/use...is%20Alexander
Evidence shown in court
http://www.hlntv.com/slideshow/2013/...ysteries-day-4
Graphic Crime Scene photos and body photos *Warning, these are graphic
http://s1321.beta.photobucket.com/us...y/Body?src=wap

Blog of the trial. Has recaps for everyday. Just click the calendar to the side for the date you want.
http://callsforjustice.wordpress.com/
Or my blog.
http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/

There?s also a great youtube video of several different theories posted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&h...lFc&nomobile=1

Youtube accounts that posts the trial videos. User Tawnidilly has these posted pretty fast. She does an amazing job at these.
http://www.youtube.com/user/tawnidilly?feature=watch

[Lilangiepangie]

I missed where the whole Toblerone came into play. Can someone explain that part to me?