Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

[Tenacious-G]

Speaking of Jodi and guns, I was listening to Flores' calls w/ Jodi and at one point they were chit-chatting about how she pulls over to sleep on the side of the road and 'oh, that's dangerous' and Flores kinda starts to say something about her having a gun for protection, then he kinda trailed off and went back and said, 'Oh, that's right, in California, you have to register your guns. We don't in Arizona' and she perked up like 'Oh, really?!'. LOL

[Crazy Lady]

Absolutely, a very good point. They only dated for 5 months, yet they started having sex immediately; anal and oral sex. I could be wrong, but didn't they have sex like on their first or second "date"? And I don't even really consider it a date because they were just doing a group hang-out with friends. Wasn't it at the Hughes house or something? They gave each other oral?

Honestly, I can picture Jodi trying to initiate it and Travis saying they can't have sex because it's not allowed by the church. I could see them then discussing whether anal and oral "counted" and at that point, Jodi decides it's worth it to try and hook Travis, that she agrees to just anal and oral.

I mean, no offense to anyone and their likes or dislikes, but I would find it weird for a relationship to only consist of anal sex. I would have a hard time with that, even if I wanted to have anal. I tend to think that anal is something that people do, once in a while, to add to their sex life, not that it would be the center of it.

Travis wasn't really my type, so I doubt I would've ever dated him, but if I had and he said "we can only have anal sex", I'd be like "Hey, why don't we just be friends!?"

I agree with everything you said. Well said!

[TupeloHoney]

Winnemucca, Nevada aka "The city of paved streets"; hasn't seen this much buzz since Bob Tallman was born.

I find it interesting that Jodi said (on the same day) "I believe killing anyone under any circumstances is wrong"
and;
"I was planning to go panning for gold with 5 guys and bought a gun for protection."

Also, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I believe Matt McCartney is going to flip on Jodi. Totally FLIP on her. I also have a feeling that Juan will be bringing in some rep from Walmart who can explain not only that there was no Gas Can "return" but also that those two $9.92 Walmart purchases are going to turn out to be hair dye; NEUtral Brown. Mark my words... I may be wrong tho. We'll see.

I'm pretty sure wasthinking figured out by using product codes that the NEU was two Neutrogena products. Sunscreen or make-up, I think. I'll try to find the posts.

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

Don't make me check but I recall her saying that she didn't see the pictures on the bed, but did say that when she walked in on him all of the pictures fell to the floor in that chaoticway papers fall and she saw that one of the pictures was that of a young boy. The hyperbole never ends. :

I think you're probably right and I cannot bear to make myself go listen to her explain it again!

[NCBlonde]

That video is amazing. I admire the ability to put together something like that. I'm afraid that was very close to what happened. Rest in Peace Travis.




I was the same way, I can totally relate. It's sad that she never got help. Who knows if this ever would have happened if she did.




I'm 53 and can assure you, my generation knows all about anal sex. I'm not saying that every person has tried it, I'm saying it was during the 60's and 70's when sex was very free. I'm one of the no thank you group. I do know that it was something that did come up during relationships and was quickly rejected. I don't judge anyone who enjoys it, it's not for me.



I would love to see him up there and tell the truth about everything he knows. That would be epic. I don't think it will happen though. I agree, I don't think JM could trust him.

I agree. I'm not saying that they didn't know, I'm just saying that it was probably something that they didn't talk about 'in polite conversation.' LOL. I'm sure my parents knew what anal sex was, did they ever talk about it? Nope, and I for one am glad about that.

Now, these days? You have all the social media and tabloids, music, tv shows etc. And people talk about it all the time with their peers. At my age (32), I can't say as though I've talked about it with friends, much if at all. It might be something like "Tom asked me to try it" or someone might wonder "does it hurt" etc, but that's about the extent of it.

Of my boyfriends, it's only come up with 2 of them I think. And when I said I wasn't interested, that was pretty much that. TMI I'm sure, lol, but I'm far from a prude; that particular avenue just never interested me, still doesn't.

[Jadedmile]

well i guess we will have to agree to disagree - you should look at the vid of the last women he put on death row - kinda went something like this trial, or how many wins he has had as a prosecutor - only 1 loss in his entire career - on an ironic note - you bring up the sweat lodge murders - from one of the authors of the secret and the :law of attraction: jodi keeps quoting - ironic much??

OMG, totally ironic Harlette! I failed to make that conncection, but you're so right! And that trial was in the county I live in, it was all over our local news. Crazy, the Secret...

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

or like asking to measure the hair found to see if it was old - forgetting that it was now brown and blonde like the last time she was there

That alone was worth the price of admission!

[Ian 1]

I'm just watchin' Day 29, when Jodi Arias is talking about her 'selective' relationship to the Mormon Religion/Church. She prattles on about the fact she knows some Mormons who drink and, she knows some Mormons who are gay, blah, blah. Where did that come from? Well, I can speculate, but I won't. One thing for sure! There is no possible situation that one can imagine where a Gay Mormon would sit down and spontaneously out 'himself' to her. If it's a 'herself,' well, that's a different story. For sure, it wouldn't happen at Family Home Evening events or while she's driving the Missionary Sisters around in Travis's BMW.

[Jillee]

I'm pretty sure wasthinking figured out by using product codes that the NEU was two Neutrogena products. Sunscreen or make-up, I think. I'll try to find the posts.

I worked in retail pharmacy for 20 years (SavOn) and let me tell you; the SKU codes are wonky. Protor & Gamble have their fingers in Neutrogena. Protor & Gamble also make Nice n' Easy products. My profession was back in the pharmacy, but we had to deal with all kinds of stuff out on the floor. (Crappiest part of the job) I'm more inclined to think that she bought 2 bottles of hair dye over 2 bottles of sunscreen. She needed dye more than sunscreen and at $10 a pop, why by two bottles of sunscreen? I've heard some say that it could have been because she planned on going to Cancun, however he wasn't leaving for Mexico for 5 or 6 days. She wouldn't buy the sunscreen before she knew if she was even going. Not if she was worried about funds. Who buys 2 bottles of sunscreen on the fly? Or two of the exact make-up products? These SKU's are from 2008. We really don't know what they stand for until a rep researches the numbers for that timeline. SKU's change. Naw, I'm betting all my chips on hair dye. With all that hair, she'd need two bottles. Hair dye was a necessity. The gas can was a necessity. Sunscreen? I'm not so sure about sunscreen. Doesn't make enough sense with her economic situation. Tho, I could be totally wrong.

[marycontrary]

It doesn't strike me as weird. How old is Mr. Martinez? Somewhere in his 50s or early 60s? I'm pretty sure that anal sex was and probably still is considered "taboo" by that generation.

I don't know the stats for anal sex, but I would guess that less than half the population has engaged in it, at least in a regular basis. I never have, have no desire to. And I'm in my early 30s.

Martinez is like my parents generation. I would have no problem believing that that generation did not talk freely about anal sex.

I'm not saying it's a bad thing, if people enjoy it, but it's just something that is still considered outside the norm I guess.

I totally agree with this. I tried it once and it hurt...bad. Never again. I wouldnt put my finger up someone's brown eye and if I had a dick (which I don't) I would only let it visit clean places. I wonder what the statistics are for this and for vag hair removal on a regular basis. Personally, I think porn has made a huge impact on what society figures is the norm since these things weren't standard practice when I was young. I'm 55 and you are correct, we didn't freely talk about it. Ricky and Lucy had seperate beds on TV and gays were firmly in the closet. So nope, no talk about butt sex ever. When I was around puberty, things changed. We had the pill, abortion and the hippy movement and the beginning of the porn industry. It really was the sexual revolution. I found this interesting article which states 25% of hetero couples have anal http://doinitwell.blog.com/2008/02/2...-sex-negative/

[Doll-Face]

THIS. This is an awesome article. This is what I've been telling people around me over and over again. Her lack of emotion telling her stories is what tells me WITHOUT A DOUBT that she was NOT a victim of domestic violence. As I've mentioned here before, I was in an abusive marriage a little over 10 years ago. I was with my ex for 7 years and married for 1 year because once we got married, the abuse became 10-fold. I STILL have a hard time talking about it without getting choked up. I can do it now, it took YEARS, but still, in certain situations it's just inevitable. Hence, me folding on the Dr. Drew show. The second I was supposed to talk about it, I just couldn't. I knew I was going to break down on National TV and no way was I going to let that happen! When you are abused, the emotions are so deep, you can never forget them. You can set them aside and move on with your life, but still, they stick with you.

The only thing I do not agree with is the sharing part. I held the abuse in for years and year and it wasn't until my husband did something so inhumane to me, I couldn't hold it back any longer and just had to tell my sister. Then my whole life changed from that point on. For the better, of course!

*deep breath*

Ok, I just shared a lot! But this is the reason I am so passionate about this case. I know there are a lot of us on this site that have been in an abusive relationship as well so I know some of you can relate. It's so maddening to watch this trial unfold with her BS claims. Ugh...I just can't wait until verdict day!

Your story really touched me and I'm glad you shared it. I am a product of a domestic violence household myself; however, I am a child of DV, as well as a step child who was abused by the same guy -- step dad. It still hurts me today to the point where I can't watch certain movies, (i.e., Sleeping with the Enemy; The Burning Bed; and What's Love Got to Do With It) because of the horrible emotional response it brings out in me (crying, shaking). Jodi talks about how she shakes like a chihuahua, but I've never seen her do it. In fact, I believe she's stolen this term from those of us who actually have suffered abuse. I know I wouldn't have been able to withstand JM's cross myself because of my past wounds. When she got snarky on the stand, it proved to me that she was a liar. I sure am happy to be out of the horrible situation I grew up in, but because it lasted my whole childhood, it has really affected each one of my own adult relationships. I am somewhat distant and not easily trusting of men; therefore I've never truly been "in love." I've been in therapy for years and still cry and get emotional in confrontational type situations. Jodi really sickens me.

[Metis212]

...I'm 53 and can assure you, my generation knows all about anal sex. I'm not saying that every person has tried it, I'm saying it was during the 60's and 70's when sex was very free. I'm one of the no thank you group. I do know that it was something that did come up during relationships and was quickly rejected. I don't judge anyone who enjoys it, it's not for me....

snipped for emphasis

I will be 58 soon. Our generation lived sexual liberation! At the risk of TMI;, anal sex information was freely available, people did it and some really enjoyed it. Until the mid80's, it was anything goes. Anne Rice wrote wrote books under a pseudonym that makes 50 shades of gray seem like a romance novel.

I was thoroughly convinced Travis was a virgin or at least very inexperienced with the "after baptism" story. Although I didn't believe that happened that day, I figured it did happen. Any one who knows about anal sex knows it can't be done with spit or dry.

I will shush now.

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

One of my old coworkers tried to get us into that whole secret thing. I rolled my eyes so hard I think I pulled a muscle. It sounded like a bunch of woo to me. She was the one that was always a Negative Nancy! I don't think it worked for her... lol

UGH! I hated that stupid movie. I have a consulting business and one of my clients invited me to a viewing. All I could think of was those poor people on those planes,in the Pentagon and the Towers on 9/11. Not to mention the brave souls in NYFD and NYPD etc who rushed in to try and save people.

How could ANYONE ever think any of those people did ANYTHING to attract that!

[Sandral]

That is a conversation that Jodi days they had. If you can believe her. She brought up the fact about him liking boys. I really don't believe any of jet BS.

[Doll-Face]

It doesn't strike me as weird. How old is Mr. Martinez? Somewhere in his 50s or early 60s? I'm pretty sure that anal sex was and probably still is considered "taboo" by that generation.

I don't know the stats for anal sex, but I would guess that less than half the population has engaged in it, at least in a regular basis. I never have, have no desire to. And I'm in my early 30s.

Martinez is like my parents generation. I would have no problem believing that that generation did not talk freely about anal sex.

I'm not saying it's a bad thing, if people enjoy it, but it's just something that is still considered outside the norm I guess.

I had this discussion years ago with a male colleague (I know, weird), but he brought it up at the time...probably because he had kids and most people with kids talk about their kids. I didn't have any kids at the time, but he told me that he was concerned for his kids who were going to be entering high school because it seemed like kids now-a-days weren't holding back with sex anymore because of the risk of pregnancy. Instead, they were doing more anal because you can't get pregnant that way. I thought it was really interesting, but am not sure if he was talking kids in general or just kids at the high school where his were going. This discussion was back sometime between 2003 to 2005.

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

Is it just me that wonders why JVM is stuck on the word KINKY?! DOH.... when did anal sex become KINK? or deviant? or maybe it's me that's weird lol I almost hate her too

JVM needs to straighten out her wig ~ yesterday it was on crooked!

[marycontrary]

I'm just watchin' Day 29, when Jodi Arias is talking about her 'selective' relationship to the Mormon Religion/Church. She prattles on about the fact she knows some Mormons who drink and, she knows some Mormons who are gay, blah, blah. Where did that come from? Well, I can speculate, but I won't. One thing for sure! There is no possible situation that one can imagine where a Gay Mormon would sit down and spontaneously out 'himself' to her. If it's a 'herself,' well, that's a different story. For sure, it wouldn't happen at Family Home Evening events or while she's driving the Missionary Sisters around in Travis's BMW.

Yeah, Jodi seems to have a weird attitude about gays. The co-worker of MM who she went on and on about being gay and then the gay Mormon thing. Then the talk of a 3way...that girlie has a fruitful imagination

[TupeloHoney]

Winnemucca, Nevada aka "The city of paved streets"; hasn't seen this much buzz since Bob Tallman was born.

I find it interesting that Jodi said (on the same day) "I believe killing anyone under any circumstances is wrong"
and;
"I was planning to go panning for gold with 5 guys and bought a gun for protection."

Also, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I believe Matt McCartney is going to flip on Jodi. Totally FLIP on her. I also have a feeling that Juan will be bringing in some rep from Walmart who can explain not only that there was no Gas Can "return" but also that those two $9.92 Walmart purchases are going to turn out to be hair dye; NEUtral Brown. Mark my words... I may be wrong tho. We'll see.

I'm pretty sure wasthinking figured out by using product codes that the NEU was two Neutrogena products. Sunscreen or make-up, I think. I'll try to find the posts.

I worked in retail pharmacy for 20 years (SavOn) and let me tell you; the SKU codes are wonky. Protor & Gamble have their fingers in Neutrogena. Protor & Gamble also make Nice n' Easy products. My profession was back in the pharmacy, but we had to deal with all kinds of stuff out on the floor. (Crappiest part of the job) I'm more inclined to think that she bought 2 bottles of hair dye over 2 bottles of sunscreen. She needed dye more than sunscreen and at $10 a pop, why by two bottles of sunscreen? I've heard some say that it could have been because she planned on going to Cancun, however he wasn't leaving for Mexico for 5 or 6 days. She wouldn't buy the sunscreen before she knew if she was even going. Not if she was worried about funds. Who buys 2 bottles of sunscreen on the fly? Or two of the exact make-up products? These SKU's are from 2008. We really don't know what they stand for until a rep researches the numbers for that timeline. SKU's change. Naw, I'm betting all my chips on hair dye. With all that hair, she'd need two bottles. Hair dye was a necessity. The gas can was a necessity. Sunscreen? I'm not so sure about sunscreen. Doesn't make enough sense with her economic situation. Tho, I could be totally wrong.

I agree that hair color makes more since, I'm just passing along the info. The conversation is on pages 1074 & 1077 (I think. Trying to find it on my phone is giving me a headache).

The only thing I know for sure is that I've been using Nice n Easy for many years, and the receipt always says "Clairol."

[TupeloHoney]

Oops I didn't mean to quote alllll that. Lol

[alyoop]

KK, I am not going to give you the JA details I promise, I am just saying when my husband first asked if it was something I was interested in, mind you had he asked me this while dating only a couple days, or weeks I mighta slapped the shit outta him and gotten outta the car, however, when he first brought anal up, I was like HELL no, poopin that big makes me cry, ain't no way, but a little research, a trip to babeland for some superlube (KY is not good lube for this, so miss JA is not as smart as she thinks) and can actually be pleasurable. but there is no way in heck you can convince me that Travis having zero experience with it is the one who initiated the anal avenue in that relationship....

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

I'm not sure he'll flip. I think he would probably take the fifth instead.

A la Gus Searcy.

[Jadedmile]

Somebody she worked with gave her a dvd about it ~ it's a pyramid scam, it's how they market. She watched it months later (according to her) and then got hooked up with a local PPL'er and went to Las Vegas and then she met TA

Thank you, I was just curious how that whole thing hooked people...

[alyoop]

I agree that hair color makes more since, I'm just passing along the info. The conversation is on pages 1074 & 1077 (I think. Trying to find it on my phone is giving me a headache).

The only thing I know for sure is that I've been using Nice n Easy for many years, and the receipt always says "Clairol."

Okay, wait, JA bought hair dye? she dyed her own hair? WTH? she got blonde from her dark brown? I have dark brown hair tried to do my own hair because I wanted to be blonde and my hair turned freakin ORANGE.. it was so fuckin ugly i almost shaved my head

[Doll-Face]

Can anyone point me to the eye reflection again...what page? I remember seeing it many pages back. I tried to do a search for the term "reflection", but it didn't pull anything up. Thanks!

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

I love the way that the roaches have all scattered since Martinez turned the lights on. Think about it-- ever since 'magazine day', I don't think I've seen Ann Campbell in court and Matt's posts on JAII were scrubbed. Things that make you go hmmmm.

Donavon has disappeared from the court gallery as well!